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Re: Woodturning

Post by SlowToke » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:58 pm

You're plenty good at it. Just do it!
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Re: Woodturning

Post by Gabriel » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:36 pm

Ok, followed almost all the tips so far (still not wearing a tie though). I still can’t get past the first step of mounting the wood to the lathe. Here’s my problem (or what I assume to be a problem):

What the deuce is going on here?
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Re: Woodturning

Post by ReverendThom » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:12 pm

Gabriel wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:36 pm
Ok, followed almost all the tips so far (still not wearing a tie though). I still can’t get past the first step of mounting the wood to the lathe. Here’s my problem (or what I assume to be a problem):

What the deuce is going on here?
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Those are centres (or centers in the USA I suppose) in the first pictures. I don't know if I'd use that centre on the headstock (the left side of the lathe) but somebody else can chime in. I'd use a "drive spur" though.

You mark the centre of your wood, put the centres on, hold it in place by moving the tailstock (right side) in tight and locking it down, and then you can rough up your piece.

The other piece is a 4-jaw chuck. When you rough a piece you can round it off, then take it off and put it in the 4-jaw check by clamping down...
*edit: are the round ones "jaw chucks"?

Anywho I feel I'm not explaining too clearly lol. This is a good quick intro on your questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N92XNewzrpc
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Re: Woodturning

Post by FredS » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:15 pm

Gabriel wrote:
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What the deuce is going on here?
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Despite the Pro Tips™ I offered earlier, I'm not an expert on wood lathes, but I'd say this center (the pointy thing) needs to go if you want to turn between centers. You need a spur center there that will bite into the workpiece. I imagine the center has a taper that matches one inside the lathe spindle so you'll need a long rod (steel or wood) that you can insert through the outside end of the spindle to knock it out.

Pro Tip™ - Hold on to the center with your right hand as you whack the rod with a mallet in your left hand so it doesn't fall out and land on your foot.
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Re: Woodturning

Post by Gabriel » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:02 pm

I'm sorry, I should have been more specific with my question. Yes, I realize those are the centers. My problem is that, as was already pointed out, there is nothing grab the wood (heh) on the drive side. I can't get it off for anything (oh boy, this whole wood turning hobby is a treasure trove of questionable phrases...).

So I was trying to figure out if that center was actually useful in a way that I wasn't seeing, or if there was a trick to removing it in order use one of the chucks or some such other useful item. "Whack it with a stick" hadn't yet occurred to me, I'll try it this afternoon. :bacon:

I can't find a spur type center in any of the parts laying around, I did find a base-plate type thing, so maybe I can fashion something with that.
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Re: Woodturning

Post by JimVH » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:35 pm

Gabriel wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:02 pm
I'm sorry, I should have been more specific with my question. Yes, I realize those are the centers. My problem is that, as was already pointed out, there is nothing grab the wood (heh) on the drive side. I can't get it off for anything (oh boy, this whole wood turning hobby is a treasure trove of questionable phrases...).

So I was trying to figure out if that center was actually useful in a way that I wasn't seeing, or if there was a trick to removing it in order use one of the chucks or some such other useful item. "Whack it with a stick" hadn't yet occurred to me, I'll try it this afternoon. :bacon:

I can't find a spur type center in any of the parts laying around, I did find a base-plate type thing, so maybe I can fashion something with that.
Have you tried a knock-out bar from the backside of the spindle?

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Re: Woodturning

Post by Gabriel » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:14 pm

Found the bar in a box. Had to hit it pretty enthusiastically to loosen it, but it’s off. I have succeeded in reducing a random chunk of pine to splinters. I have also discovered that these chisels may have never been sharpened. Ever.
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Re: Woodturning

Post by Gabriel » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:46 pm

Made lines in a piece of scrap until it broke. My first wood turning adventure:

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Re: Woodturning

Post by JimVH » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:50 pm

Gabriel wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:14 pm
... I have also discovered that these chisels may have never been sharpened. Ever.
Sharp chisels will make you a dramatically better turner instantly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfmIv0iXjis
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Re: Woodturning

Post by ReverendThom » Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:58 pm

JimVH wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:50 pm
Gabriel wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:14 pm
... I have also discovered that these chisels may have never been sharpened. Ever.
Sharp chisels will make you a dramatically better turner instantly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfmIv0iXjis
Jim, you ever use carbide tipped tools? That's all I've been using for a while, but can get kinda pricey if you're doing a lot of stuff, I'm thinking. Should really learn how to sharpen I guess.
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Re: Woodturning

Post by JimVH » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:07 pm

ReverendThom wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:58 pm
JimVH wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:50 pm
Gabriel wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:14 pm
... I have also discovered that these chisels may have never been sharpened. Ever.
Sharp chisels will make you a dramatically better turner instantly.

Jim, you ever use carbide tipped tools? That's all I've been using for a while, but can get kinda pricey if you're doing a lot of stuff, I'm thinking. Should really learn how to sharpen I guess.
I do and I'm a fan. I have a set of the Easy Wood midi chisels and they take a lot of the learning curve out of turning - good clean fun quickly. Like you said, though, they're expensive. I learned with traditional chisels and that's what I enjoy most of the time.

The best upgrade I ever made to my tools is a good sharpening jig. I thought it was just a luxury until I got one. Wow, what a difference it makes in both turning and enjoyment. I should have done it sooner.
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Re: Woodturning

Post by FredS » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:08 pm

Gabriel wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:02 pm
So I was trying to figure out if that center was actually useful in a way that I wasn't seeing, or if there was a trick to removing it in order use one of the chucks or some such other useful item. "Whack it with a stick" hadn't yet occurred to me, I'll try it this afternoon. :bacon:
'Whack it with a stick' is my go-to solution when I'm stumped with a machine or tool. It's not been as effective when dealing with troubling people, but it's still not a bad idea when all else fails.
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Re: Woodturning

Post by Gabriel » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:43 pm

This thread has been a fun way to spend a Monday afternoon. Oh sure , plenty of office work has gone undone, but it’s been good. It’s only a shame that I can’t smoke in this shop.

At any rate, sharpened a few chisels on the bench grinder and found and oak scrap to practice on. A lot more fun to work with. Still not useful, but certainly fun.

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Re: Woodturning

Post by JimVH » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:04 pm

Gabriel wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:43 pm
This thread has been a fun way to spend a Monday afternoon. Oh sure , plenty of office work has gone undone, but it’s been good. It’s only a shame that I can’t smoke in this shop.

At any rate, sharpened a few chisels on the bench grinder and found and oak scrap to practice on. A lot more fun to work with. Still not useful, but certainly fun.

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It's all useful. Ornamental firewood is a specialty of mine.
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Re: Woodturning

Post by ReverendThom » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:33 pm

Gabriel wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:43 pm
This thread has been a fun way to spend a Monday afternoon. Oh sure , plenty of office work has gone undone, but it’s been good. It’s only a shame that I can’t smoke in this shop.

At any rate, sharpened a few chisels on the bench grinder and found and oak scrap to practice on. A lot more fun to work with. Still not useful, but certainly fun.

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Right on!
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Re: Woodturning

Post by coco » Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:43 pm

FredS wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:08 pm
Gabriel wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:02 pm
So I was trying to figure out if that center was actually useful in a way that I wasn't seeing, or if there was a trick to removing it in order use one of the chucks or some such other useful item. "Whack it with a stick" hadn't yet occurred to me, I'll try it this afternoon. :bacon:
'Whack it with a stick' is my go-to solution when I'm stumped with a machine or tool. It's not been as effective when dealing with troubling people, but it's still not a bad idea when all else fails.
I recommend hitting them harder.
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Re: Woodturning

Post by ReverendThom » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:52 pm

coco wrote:
FredS wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:08 pm
Gabriel wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:02 pm
So I was trying to figure out if that center was actually useful in a way that I wasn't seeing, or if there was a trick to removing it in order use one of the chucks or some such other useful item. "Whack it with a stick" hadn't yet occurred to me, I'll try it this afternoon. :bacon:
'Whack it with a stick' is my go-to solution when I'm stumped with a machine or tool. It's not been as effective when dealing with troubling people, but it's still not a bad idea when all else fails.
I recommend hitting them harder.
Coco, do you still turn?

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Re: Woodturning

Post by ReverendThom » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:54 pm

JimVH wrote:I like this thread idea.

Well done on the pen. They make fun projects and cherished gifts. You can make a buck or two with them, also.

I'm starting an order for two dozen bottle stoppers this weekend. Pics to come.
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Re: Woodturning

Post by coco » Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:19 am

ReverendThom wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:52 pm
coco wrote:
FredS wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:08 pm
Gabriel wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:02 pm
So I was trying to figure out if that center was actually useful in a way that I wasn't seeing, or if there was a trick to removing it in order use one of the chucks or some such other useful item. "Whack it with a stick" hadn't yet occurred to me, I'll try it this afternoon. :bacon:
'Whack it with a stick' is my go-to solution when I'm stumped with a machine or tool. It's not been as effective when dealing with troubling people, but it's still not a bad idea when all else fails.
I recommend hitting them harder.
Coco, do you still turn?

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I haven't in a while. I need to dust off the lathe.

I still hit people with sticks, though.
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Re: Woodturning

Post by ReverendThom » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:37 am

I made this last night. Except I went to put the razor together and realized I left the bushings for the stand on, so I need to put it back on and turn it down some more. Woops. Image

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