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Post by John-Boy » Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:55 am

Steverino wrote:Somebody give us newer guys a rundown of how it went last year.
UncleBob and I exchanged gifts... in secret.
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Post by AlwaysLearning » Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:22 am

Christmas and Easter are quickly becoming the only two times a year it is socially acceptable to say the name of Jesus in public. My current thought is to use this to reach as many people as we can for Christ. This doesn't mean we don't have outreach during other times of the year, but does mean we can get more people to hear about salvation during these times of year. We had two outreaches into the community in the past year, one at Christmas, and one at Easter. Christmas was 1400 or so I think, Easter was 2300 at best guess. These were accomplished by a church of 300 regular attendees (but growing). A lot of the people who came asked why we do this stuff for free... It is a great opportunity to show the love of Christ to the community.

So bah humbug maybe, but I say a great opportunity wasted if you don't use the time people are willing to hear about Jesus.

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Post by Jared » Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:49 am

I'm in depending on limits and such. figured it nothing else it would be an exchange of pipe tobacco.
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Post by adauria » Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:51 pm

Bah humbug certain does sum up my position quite well, but for the sake of others:

- Don't create a straw man - I am not against gravy!! But I am theologically mature enough to separate gravy from Christmas :)

- The CS Lewis article pretty much hits the nail on the head.

- There is nothing I hate more than shopping, especially for other people. Nothing. Nothing.

- I have some real theological problems with Christmas (gravy aside) that are more appropriate for the theology room here rather than a thread on secret santa. As I generally don't visit that room, you'll all be spared. I'm just not much for debating anything in an online forum.

- It's good that we can use Christmas as an excuse to proselytize. By all means take advantage of it. Take advantage of ANY opportunity God grants us to share the Gospel! Heck, when The DaVinci Code was popular I used THAT as an opportunity, but it doesn't make me a Dan Brown fan.

- Did I mention how I feel about shopping for others?

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Post by jam4ar » Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:39 pm

alchemyhunter wrote: Gravy, is what God gave us after wine.... I'm sure of it. Good Grief man... it is GRAVY!!
This has to be one of the best things I've ever read...
alchemyhunter wrote:SEASONAL BREWS!!! Seasonal beer, indicating once a year.
I'm going to be brewing up some seasonal homebrew this weekend... Oh Boy Oh Boy.. It'll have plenty of time to condition in the bottles to make it ever so tasty.. I cannot wait.
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Post by Steverino » Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:40 pm

I haven't found the activites that go on around Christmas to be quite as negative; however, I do tend to feel some agreement with C.S. Lewis's thoughts. I think the thing that really bugs me about Christmas is that we become giving and hospitable at this time of the year. What about the rest of the year?
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Post by Jared » Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:05 am

i'll whole heartedly agree. we shouldn't use the big christian holidays as a means of being nice. we should be nice all through the year. I'll agree with adauria though in part that christmas shouldn't be about getting presents and stuff for christmas. orginally christmas was about being with family and those you love and remembering the birth of Jesus just like Easter is about celebrating Jesus's death on the cross as the means to our salvation.
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Post by Joshua_Briar » Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:54 pm

Aduria said: - There is nothing I hate more than shopping, especially for other people. Nothing. Nothing.
I couldn't agree more, but I will say for my Christmas experience and those I actually give gifts too, it's one of my favorite times of year. I start making Christmas gifts by August, and over the years my woodshop has delivered some very nice gifts even if I do say so my self...

All that to say, when I make something for somebody it's a much different experience than buying something for somebody. This year one of the things I'm trying to make is my first pipe, a billiard to provide some relief for my grandfathers 60 yr old grabow (this thing has some serious miles on it).
Neither purchasing or making Christmas gifts make them better(often you could buy something made a lot better than what i complete) but I find it a great deal more satisfying personally.

just a thought...

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Post by Munkey » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:16 pm

So John-Boy is going to organize CPS Secret Santa 2008?

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Post by Dug » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:50 pm

Thanks, J-B. That sounds great.

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Post by Zed » Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:16 pm

I vote for John-boy or alchemyhunter
YEAH COBS

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Post by alchemyhunter » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:38 am

I vote for john boy
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Post by colton » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:10 am

C. S. Lewis wrote:The modern rule is that anyone can force you to give him a present by sending you a quite unprovoked present of his own. It is almost a blackmail.
Even when he's being a curmudgeon, he manages to make me laugh. This part is particularly funny because it's particularly true.

Chesterton, however, took a different view:
If a man called Christmas Day a mere hypocritical excuse for drunkeness and gluttony, that would be false, but it would have a fact hidden in it somewhere. But when Bernard Shaw says that Christmas Day is only a conspiracy kept up by Poulterers and wine merchants from strictly business motives, then he says something which is not so much false as startling and arrestingly foolish. He might as well say that the two sexes were invented by jewellers who wanted to sell wedding rings.
And...
The great majority of people will go on observing forms that cannot be explained; they will keep Christmas Day with Christmas gifts and Christmas benedictions; they will continue to do it; and some day suddenly wake up and discover why.
Assuming I'm back from Ireland before you guys start the swapping, I'd like to join in.

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Post by mountainman » Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:28 pm

so seriously are we going to get this going? its getting down to the wire.
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Post by John-Boy » Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:39 pm

I don't mind collecting names and sending names back out. What do you guys think the dollar limit/guideline should be?
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Post by Dug » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:39 pm

What about a $10 limit (not including postage/shipping)? That'd allow for a tin or a few ounces of something good. Much more than that, and I might get that look from my wonderful wife.

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Post by Zed » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:45 pm

I am in. Just dont tell the wife. 8O

$10 - $15 no more.
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Post by Jared » Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:42 am

I'm in, just as long as it's not more than 10-20.
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Post by mountainman » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:30 am

I'm in as well, and I will agree on the limit, at most $20.00, I don't think anyone would go out and buy a Dunhill Christmas pipe for this but you never know.
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Post by Skip » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:33 am

I'm in.
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