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Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerr

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:32 pm
by hugodrax
infidel wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:18 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:00 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:55 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:25 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:10 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:55 am
Ive been an Apple user since the iPhone 3G days. I still have the original 3G phone somewhere.

I'm considering going Android.

EDIT: Jim's reviews on Android kinda has me worried tho......
See, that's the thing. With Apple you are talking about one integrated, closed loop. The phone is the software. They have you.

With Android, you have multiple choices for hardware.
How's the music on Android? Can I get over and move away from iTunes ok?
Don't know. I don't care about music that much. Heresy?
Samsung. Rips your iTunes library right apart.
You geezers still download music? :confused:
I never have, not since the iPhone first generation. However, I had put my family's entire music collection into iTunes. It was nice to get it back.

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:35 pm
by Skip
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:27 pm
FredS wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:13 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:55 pm
Skip wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:13 pm
Meh. iCloud, iTunes, iPad, iPhone ... the integration works for me. I'm sticking with Apple.
What's it like to be rich?

J/K. I'm always looking for value. Android is that. Apple just isn't worth the squeeze to my wallet.
Being able to write equipment off has an impact on it's affordability. Also, building your business around technology (not discounting Skips artistry here, but the tech is important) elevates function and reliability over cost.
I'm just talking about Joe Schmoe. Skips a pro. I see the value in building a premium system and premium cost if it will give you a good return and for him it does. Industry standards play a part too.I just can't justify it as a casual user.

Now, let me get back to my .dwg that is taking FOREVER to regen on a system that was built to handle it. Purge, audit, save-as, and pay fees to Autodesk (cause everyone else that I work with does too). :lol:
I draw the line at Macs. I owned a couple in the 90s, but the PC marketplace caught up with them and I had a bad experience with my wife's MacBook. Apple was smart enough to get their apps over to Windows, so my Apple iProducts integrate well with my desktop. But yeah, the iPad is definitely a business expense, and I cover the higher-capability iPhone (still on a 7s, btw) as a photography biz expense.

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:01 pm
by FredS
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:27 pm
Now, let me get back to my .dwg that is taking FOREVER to regen on a system that was built to handle it. Purge, audit, save-as, and pay fees to Autodesk (cause everyone else that I work with does too). :lol:
I'm still running AutoCad 2007, but on a Microsoft Surface Pro 4 wih Windows 10 Pro. There are a few glitches but by and large, this little 'tablet' is impressive! Sometime this year, I reckon I'll switch to the new subscription-based ACad, but it will be done reluctantly. We've already migrated to Office 365 and use cloud storage so I see the benefits of subscription-based software and remote storage, but I'm old fashioned and prefer the actual ownership of an optical disc and a server running in the closet. (Yes, I know companies still claimed ownership of software even when it was on a disc.) I still take a peculiar pride in my shelves of old fashioned paper books over the 'ease of use' of a Kindle.

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:21 pm
by gaining_age
Skip wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:35 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:27 pm
FredS wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:13 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:55 pm
Skip wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:13 pm
Meh. iCloud, iTunes, iPad, iPhone ... the integration works for me. I'm sticking with Apple.
What's it like to be rich?

J/K. I'm always looking for value. Android is that. Apple just isn't worth the squeeze to my wallet.
Being able to write equipment off has an impact on it's affordability. Also, building your business around technology (not discounting Skips artistry here, but the tech is important) elevates function and reliability over cost.
I'm just talking about Joe Schmoe. Skips a pro. I see the value in building a premium system and premium cost if it will give you a good return and for him it does. Industry standards play a part too.I just can't justify it as a casual user.

Now, let me get back to my .dwg that is taking FOREVER to regen on a system that was built to handle it. Purge, audit, save-as, and pay fees to Autodesk (cause everyone else that I work with does too). :lol:
I draw the line at Macs. I owned a couple in the 90s, but the PC marketplace caught up with them and I had a bad experience with my wife's MacBook. Apple was smart enough to get their apps over to Windows, so my Apple iProducts integrate well with my desktop. But yeah, the iPad is definitely a business expense, and I cover the higher-capability iPhone (still on a 7s, btw) as a photography biz expense.
I'm blended-- when I got married in 2016 we got a PC. I had migrated to Mac and Apple items. I had an iPhone-- before that it was the Samsung pocketPC (yes--- with extendable antenna):

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I went from iPhone (gosh-- what was it???) to the iPhone 4s to the iPhone 6s. I saw this X and 8 release and shook my head. I know a few people who dropped the 1200 for an X and that's just not me. That Samsung Galaxy commercial with the fellow hyped up on the ipone and then over the years goes with his girlfriend's Samsung--- I feel like that's my next step. Affordability really matters-- and it'll be a shock to me since I've been Apple centric but there has to be an affordability factor.

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:45 pm
by hugodrax
gaining_age wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:21 pm
Skip wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:35 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:27 pm
FredS wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:13 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:55 pm
Skip wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:13 pm
Meh. iCloud, iTunes, iPad, iPhone ... the integration works for me. I'm sticking with Apple.
What's it like to be rich?

J/K. I'm always looking for value. Android is that. Apple just isn't worth the squeeze to my wallet.
Being able to write equipment off has an impact on it's affordability. Also, building your business around technology (not discounting Skips artistry here, but the tech is important) elevates function and reliability over cost.
I'm just talking about Joe Schmoe. Skips a pro. I see the value in building a premium system and premium cost if it will give you a good return and for him it does. Industry standards play a part too.I just can't justify it as a casual user.

Now, let me get back to my .dwg that is taking FOREVER to regen on a system that was built to handle it. Purge, audit, save-as, and pay fees to Autodesk (cause everyone else that I work with does too). :lol:
I draw the line at Macs. I owned a couple in the 90s, but the PC marketplace caught up with them and I had a bad experience with my wife's MacBook. Apple was smart enough to get their apps over to Windows, so my Apple iProducts integrate well with my desktop. But yeah, the iPad is definitely a business expense, and I cover the higher-capability iPhone (still on a 7s, btw) as a photography biz expense.
I'm blended-- when I got married in 2016 we got a PC. I had migrated to Mac and Apple items. I had an iPhone-- before that it was the Samsung pocketPC (yes--- with extendable antenna):

Image


I went from iPhone (gosh-- what was it???) to the iPhone 4s to the iPhone 6s. I saw this X and 8 release and shook my head. I know a few people who dropped the 1200 for an X and that's just not me. That Samsung Galaxy commercial with the fellow hyped up on the ipone and then over the years goes with his girlfriend's Samsung--- I feel like that's my next step. Affordability really matters-- and it'll be a shock to me since I've been Apple centric but there has to be an affordability factor.
No, there doesn't. I'm using the Note 8.

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:25 pm
by durangopipe
iPhone 4S
Original battery!

Keeps on truckin’.

Don’t use it much.
99% of my non-iMac desktop digital work is done on my iPad, not my phone.

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:52 am
by Cleon
It just occurred to me that, according to the thread title, we could be talking about pie and not communication devices. :dancingpie:

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:59 am
by wosbald
+JMJ+
Cleon wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:52 am
It just occurred to me that, according to the thread title, we could be talking about pie and not communication devices. :dancingpie:
Or

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:14 am
by UncleBob
wosbald wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:59 am
+JMJ+
Cleon wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:52 am
It just occurred to me that, according to the thread title, we could be talking about pie and not communication devices. :dancingpie:
Or
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Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:58 pm
by JimVH
UncleBob wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:14 am
Image
The Apple iPie Cheddar+. I'd buy it.

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:47 pm
by plainview
A funny (and truthful) statement taken from an article I recently read about phones:
nobody designs a silky smooth, naked-in-a-pile-of-satin-sheets-and-coated-with-baby-oil interface like Apple.
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Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:05 pm
by Jocose
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:55 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:25 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:10 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:55 am
Ive been an Apple user since the iPhone 3G days. I still have the original 3G phone somewhere.

I'm considering going Android.

EDIT: Jim's reviews on Android kinda has me worried tho......
See, that's the thing. With Apple you are talking about one integrated, closed loop. The phone is the software. They have you.

With Android, you have multiple choices for hardware.
How's the music on Android? Can I get over and move away from iTunes ok?
Don't know. I don't care about music that much. Heresy?
?

How can you not care about music?

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:44 am
by Joshoowah
I'm all over the place on this one. For work and personal use on the couch, I always use a MacBook, as they have far surpassed anything (in my eyes) Windows computers have done at the same price point (laptop wise). For pleasure, whether that is gaming, music, etc., I use a custom built Windows system. As for my phone, I use a Google Nexus 4, which is Android, but I have used iPhones in the past and do like them. I am in need of a new phone, as mine keeps crashing, and I suspect I'll buy an Android just because I'm on a missionary budget. As a tablet, I use an iPad, and I need a new one, and they're definitely worth the expense above Android tablets.

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:44 am
by FredS
Jocose wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:05 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:55 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:25 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:10 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:55 am
Ive been an Apple user since the iPhone 3G days. I still have the original 3G phone somewhere.

I'm considering going Android.

EDIT: Jim's reviews on Android kinda has me worried tho......
See, that's the thing. With Apple you are talking about one integrated, closed loop. The phone is the software. They have you.

With Android, you have multiple choices for hardware.
How's the music on Android? Can I get over and move away from iTunes ok?
Don't know. I don't care about music that much. Heresy?
?

How can you not care about music?
Probably doesn't care about music on the phone. I don't use my phone for music storage or playback either. There are much better devices than a phone for that.

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:29 am
by Cleon
FredS wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:44 am
Jocose wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:05 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:55 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:25 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:10 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:55 am
Ive been an Apple user since the iPhone 3G days. I still have the original 3G phone somewhere.

I'm considering going Android.

EDIT: Jim's reviews on Android kinda has me worried tho......
See, that's the thing. With Apple you are talking about one integrated, closed loop. The phone is the software. They have you.

With Android, you have multiple choices for hardware.
How's the music on Android? Can I get over and move away from iTunes ok?
Don't know. I don't care about music that much. Heresy?
?

How can you not care about music?
Probably doesn't care about music on the phone. I don't use my phone for music storage or playback either. There are much better devices than a phone for that.
Music has it's place, but I am not touched by music like a lot of people are. I'm sort of that way with science too. I'd rather have silence or just general environmental background noise most of the time. I don't even listen to music when I run or workout.

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:52 am
by Jocose
Cleon wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:29 am
FredS wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:44 am
Jocose wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:05 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:55 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:25 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:10 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:55 am
Ive been an Apple user since the iPhone 3G days. I still have the original 3G phone somewhere.

I'm considering going Android.

EDIT: Jim's reviews on Android kinda has me worried tho......
See, that's the thing. With Apple you are talking about one integrated, closed loop. The phone is the software. They have you.

With Android, you have multiple choices for hardware.
How's the music on Android? Can I get over and move away from iTunes ok?
Don't know. I don't care about music that much. Heresy?
?

How can you not care about music?
Probably doesn't care about music on the phone. I don't use my phone for music storage or playback either. There are much better devices than a phone for that.
Music has it's place, but I am not touched by music like a lot of people are. I'm sort of that way with science too. I'd rather have silence or just general environmental background noise most of the time. I don't even listen to music when I run or workout.
ONE WORD:

You are crazy if you don't have music a click away on yer phone.

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:31 am
by hugodrax
Jocose wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:05 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:55 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:25 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:10 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:55 am
Ive been an Apple user since the iPhone 3G days. I still have the original 3G phone somewhere.

I'm considering going Android.

EDIT: Jim's reviews on Android kinda has me worried tho......
See, that's the thing. With Apple you are talking about one integrated, closed loop. The phone is the software. They have you.

With Android, you have multiple choices for hardware.
How's the music on Android? Can I get over and move away from iTunes ok?
Don't know. I don't care about music that much. Heresy?
?

How can you not care about music?
Well, it would explain Christian rock.

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:48 am
by Jester
durangopipe wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:25 pm
iPhone 4S
Original battery!

Keeps on truckin’.

Don’t use it much.
99% of my non-iMac desktop digital work is done on my iPad, not my phone.
That phone will never die. My wife gave her iphone 4 to her mother years ago and she is still using it. My wife and I have been through 3-4 phones since then.

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:27 pm
by Skip
Jester wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:48 am
durangopipe wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:25 pm
iPhone 4S
Original battery!

Keeps on truckin’.

Don’t use it much.
99% of my non-iMac desktop digital work is done on my iPad, not my phone.
That phone will never die. My wife gave her iphone 4 to her mother years ago and she is still using it. My wife and I have been through 3-4 phones since then.
Does she know how to turn it on?

Re: Goodbye Apple. Welcome back BlackBerry

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:32 am
by Jocose
hugodrax wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:31 am
Jocose wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:05 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:55 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:25 pm
Cleon wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:10 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:55 am
Ive been an Apple user since the iPhone 3G days. I still have the original 3G phone somewhere.

I'm considering going Android.

EDIT: Jim's reviews on Android kinda has me worried tho......
See, that's the thing. With Apple you are talking about one integrated, closed loop. The phone is the software. They have you.

With Android, you have multiple choices for hardware.
How's the music on Android? Can I get over and move away from iTunes ok?
Don't know. I don't care about music that much. Heresy?
?

How can you not care about music?
Well, it would explain Christian rock.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: