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Post by Rusty » Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:52 pm

Three specimens... same maker.

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And no, I didn't make them, nor did John Calich. Can you tell?
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Post by Rusty » Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:13 pm

Bumpity... Am I alone here?

Check the pic above and tell me who is the maker?
And please, don't say Dunhill. Shellbriar will suffer heart failure if you do.
There is a makers mark that I fuzzed out in the pics but it's not a white dot.

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Post by Rusty » Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:25 am

Rusty wrote:Three specimens... same maker.

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And no, I didn't make them, nor did John Calich. Can you tell?
The top two were made in the early 90's, the bottom one was made in the early 80's.
Bonus points! Tell me who made the above pipes and who made the pair below (easy guess? maybe not!). Of course the trio above was made by a different a person than the pair below:

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Extra bonus - guess the brand name on each of the pipes in the above pic (yes, they're branded differently and yes, that's a hint).

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Post by parson » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:30 am

Top three pipes: Tim West

Bottom Two: Knute and Karl Erick

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Post by Rusty » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:57 pm

parson wrote:Top three pipes: Tim West

Bottom Two: Knute and Karl Erick
Oh my goodness! A response.
Nope on all three counts.

A hint:
- the pipe maker for the top three is a political gadfly and is presently not making pipes
- it's unlikely that the same person made a Knute & a Karl Erik
- there is a case of the same Danish freehands with multiple brands (at least 3)

Now this is when Danish pipes were really weapon grade viking fantasies. They had full keels and they were huge. Most were great huge English burners. And none of this soft flowing keel-less stuff.

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Post by isaac » Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:03 pm

I have no guesses on this one...

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Post by twentyoneeight » Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:11 pm

Wiley, Preben Holm and Ben Wade.
"Please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let's not bicker and argue over who killed who. "

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Post by kaydens » Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:16 pm

Top 3: :scratch my head:


Bottom 2:

Nørding Seconds - Aalbørg & Eriksen


pure guesses...
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Post by kaydens » Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:20 pm

Are these all YOUR pipes, Rusty? I should not be surprised, but I am amazed!

What does gadfly mean? 8O
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Post by Rusty » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:09 pm

kaydens wrote:Are these all YOUR pipes, Rusty? I should not be surprised, but I am amazed!

What does gadfly mean? 8O
Yep, I'm pulling from the clean rested set. That's the usual way they look when they're clean and ready for action. I didn't do anything to them except lay them on a couple of pieces of paper and take the pic. And my collection has a lot of older stuff and I think it's interesting. I like to explore the brand so I often buy multiple pipes from the same fellow. In this case I first bought when I found him at a table in a craft show (that's how I met Calich too). But the pipe maker (for the trio) also had a fishing-supply/Tobacco/Pipe store and I'd drop in to chat when in the area.

Gadfly - A trouble maker. A person who upsets the accepted norms.
This particular gadfly created a notorious "Last Day Button" and then stopped making pipes because he was preoccupied with selling buttons. It's amazing how diverse pipe smoker political opinions and leanings can be.

Back in the 70's I went to an Allende Leftist rally (for Chile in 1973) because friends went. I was naive at the time. Unknowingly I sat next to Yevgeny Yevtushenko and I didn't recognize him. I figured he was just another communist. He saw that I smoked a pipe and we talked pipes & tobaccos furtively when there was no speaker on stage. You can imagine. I didn't know it but I had just made a big entrance with our Security agency who was there looking for connections. It was to come back to haunt me years later. And I had to explain that really... we were just talking pipes, not politics. I'm lucky that Che Guevera died and I didn't meet him. He would have been a real blight on my record even if we only talked pipes.

We're all over the place politically.

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Post by Rusty » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:29 pm

twentyoneeight wrote:Wiley, Preben Holm and Ben Wade.
No Wiley but that interesting too. So the top three remain a mystery so far.

Ok the bottom pair match your Preben Holm & Ben Wade solution. The big pickaxe is a Ben Wade. Preben Holm & Ben Wade are two of the three brand names that were common for that makers pipes at the time. But the bottom one has a different brand than those two. If you include his current brand name (Yes Holm died but he owned the company, the actual pipe maker went on) his stuff has been marketed under at least 4 brand names. So what's the brand of the bottom one?

We're still waiting on the three and maybe a guess at the name of the maker and a brand name for the bottom pipe. I purchased that bottom one brand new in 1974.

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Post by Rusty » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:30 pm

kaydens wrote:Top 3: :scratch my head:


Bottom 2:

Nørding Seconds - Aalbørg & Eriksen


pure guesses...
None of them are seconds.

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Post by Cleon » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:35 pm

Top three: Elliot Nachwalter
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Post by Rusty » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:39 pm

Cleon wrote:Top three: Elliot Nachwalter
Yes. Those are Nachwalter pipes.

So what's the brand of the last one in the bottom of the second pic?
And do you know who actually made them?

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Post by kaydens » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:53 pm

Poul Winsløw
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Post by Rusty » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:57 pm

Are you stuck?

The last pipe (in the bottom pic) was actually a very well respected pipe company's entry into freehand Danish shapes back in about 1973. I think they made it to the stores for Xmas '73. Mine was purchased in the summer of '74. At the time young pipes smokers were very likely to buy a freehand over a classic English shape. Twas the politics of the baby boomers and rebellion at play. Smoking a pipe like Nixon's was not a good way to meet anybody our age.

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Post by Rusty » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:59 pm

kaydens wrote:Poul Winsløw
That is the pipe maker or at least the most likely pipe maker. He made PH, BW, and one other brands pipes in the 70's. Now what is the one other brand?

Later he made his own name a brand:
http://www.winslow-pipes.com/

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Post by kaydens » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:05 pm

Rusty wrote:
kaydens wrote:Poul Winsløw
That is the pipe maker or at least the most likely pipe maker. He made PH, BW, and one other brands pipes in the 70's. Now what is the one other brand?
Wasn't Harcourt made for Dunhill by PH?
and I think PH seconds are called Frasorteret
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Post by Cleon » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:05 pm

Dan - Torben Dansk.
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Post by Rusty » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:11 pm

kaydens wrote:
Rusty wrote:
kaydens wrote:Poul Winsløw
That is the pipe maker or at least the most likely pipe maker. He made PH, BW, and one other brands pipes in the 70's. Now what is the one other brand?
Wasn't Harcourt made for Dunhill by PH?
and I think PH seconds are called Frasorteret
Yes. the last pipe is a Harcourt. Dunhill pipes were not doing so well with the young. So they started with Preben Holm (the company) and later added some of the other Danish freehand makers. The sales were quite brisk. The wood was very nice for not a lot of money.

The little booklet that came with pipe & box had Harcourt's corporate address within. It just happened to be 50 Jermyn St., London SW1 which was uncannily the same as Dunhill's corporate address. We all marveled - Dunhill makes Freehands? This was before they purchased Charatan remember. The box said "Made in England" but the pipes all said "Hand made in Denmark". Ohhh very suspicious. Intriguing, even. And they also had a 24 mo. guarantee which was twice Dunhill's standard one year guarantee. No date stamping either. Nording's stuff later showed up under the Harcourt brand and then others too.

You're up Kayden.

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