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Post by SlowToke » Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:27 pm

My new Stanwell Army Mount has an apparent issue. Thought you guys might enjoy this.https://www.facebook.com/wayne.teipen/v ... 653614769/

So, I was smoking it last evening and noticed some black liquid oozing from the shank. I started wiping it away only to reveal a large flaw in the briar. I wiped out what I could then used a dental pick to remove the rest of the "fill" only to find it goes all the way to the airway.
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Post by JimVH » Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:40 pm

I'd be uptight, too. That should have been thrown in the BBQ wood heap.

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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by Rusty » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 pm

It's not that rare. I have a couple of pipes that do this. They're fine smokers. What do you think tar is for? Self healing. One is hand made so it's not just factories. It tells us that they do not do a pressure test on the airway in service of detecting quality problems. They don't smoke them either. And why would they? The more interesting case are pipes in which the drilling isn't complete. The airway is not continuous end to end. You might think they would test the draw. Probably not. I'm also aware of at least one pipe with the lower stummel drilled so badly that the tenon occluded the airway when fully inserted. There are some in which the briar is foul tasting. The maker may be unaware of that too. Some are fatal, some are self healing, and some are fixable and funny.

We should track all of these little treats.
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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by SlowToke » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:56 pm

Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 pm
It's not that rare. I have a couple of pipes that do this. They're fine smokers. What do you think tar is for? Self healing. One is hand made so it's not just factories. It tells us that they do not do a pressure test on the airway in service of detecting quality problems. They don't smoke them either. And why would they? The more interesting case are pipes in which the drilling isn't complete. The airway is not continuous end to end. You might think they would test the draw. Probably not. I'm also aware of at least one pipe with the lower stummel drilled so badly that the tenon occluded the airway when fully inserted. There are some in which the briar is foul tasting. The maker may be unaware of that too. Some are fatal, some are self healing, and some are fixable and funny.

We should track all of these little treats.
The flaw in and of itself isn't entirely unacceptable although I'd never sell a pipe with a flaw like this in it. A flaw that big goes in the burn pile. What's unacceptable to me is that they use a substandard fill material.
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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by Rusty » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:32 pm

SlowToke wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:56 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 pm
It's not that rare. I have a couple of pipes that do this. They're fine smokers. What do you think tar is for? Self healing. One is hand made so it's not just factories. It tells us that they do not do a pressure test on the airway in service of detecting quality problems. They don't smoke them either. And why would they? The more interesting case are pipes in which the drilling isn't complete. The airway is not continuous end to end. You might think they would test the draw. Probably not. I'm also aware of at least one pipe with the lower stummel drilled so badly that the tenon occluded the airway when fully inserted. There are some in which the briar is foul tasting. The maker may be unaware of that too. Some are fatal, some are self healing, and some are fixable and funny.

We should track all of these little treats.
The flaw in and of itself isn't entirely unacceptable although I'd never sell a pipe with a flaw like this in it. A flaw that big goes in the burn pile. What's unacceptable to me is that they use a substandard fill material.
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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by sweetandsour » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:39 pm

Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 pm
It's not that rare. I have a couple of pipes that do this. They're fine smokers. What do you think tar is for? Self healing. One is hand made so it's not just factories. It tells us that they do not do a pressure test on the airway in service of detecting quality problems. They don't smoke them either. And why would they? The more interesting case are pipes in which the drilling isn't complete. The airway is not continuous end to end. You might think they would test the draw. Probably not. I'm also aware of at least one pipe with the lower stummel drilled so badly that the tenon occluded the airway when fully inserted. There are some in which the briar is foul tasting. The maker may be unaware of that too. Some are fatal, some are self healing, and some are fixable and funny.

We should track all of these little treats.
The one Peterson that I own is like this; has a bad airway. Not to mention the annoying p-lip. The p-lip itself is a flaw.
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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by hugodrax » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:52 pm

sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:39 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 pm
It's not that rare. I have a couple of pipes that do this. They're fine smokers. What do you think tar is for? Self healing. One is hand made so it's not just factories. It tells us that they do not do a pressure test on the airway in service of detecting quality problems. They don't smoke them either. And why would they? The more interesting case are pipes in which the drilling isn't complete. The airway is not continuous end to end. You might think they would test the draw. Probably not. I'm also aware of at least one pipe with the lower stummel drilled so badly that the tenon occluded the airway when fully inserted. There are some in which the briar is foul tasting. The maker may be unaware of that too. Some are fatal, some are self healing, and some are fixable and funny.

We should track all of these little treats.
The one Peterson that I own is like this; has a bad airway. Not to mention the annoying p-lip. The p-lip itself is a flaw.
Up until a minute ago, I thought you were a fountain of truth and light. I was heartbroken. Then I realized what I'd think if my one exemplar of a pipe manufacturer was a bum specimen. Then I remembered you don't like p-lips and I was sad again. Then I realized everybody's teeth are different and I got over it.

I'm watching you, though. :D
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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by sweetandsour » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:55 pm

hugodrax wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:52 pm
sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:39 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 pm
It's not that rare. I have a couple of pipes that do this. They're fine smokers. What do you think tar is for? Self healing. One is hand made so it's not just factories. It tells us that they do not do a pressure test on the airway in service of detecting quality problems. They don't smoke them either. And why would they? The more interesting case are pipes in which the drilling isn't complete. The airway is not continuous end to end. You might think they would test the draw. Probably not. I'm also aware of at least one pipe with the lower stummel drilled so badly that the tenon occluded the airway when fully inserted. There are some in which the briar is foul tasting. The maker may be unaware of that too. Some are fatal, some are self healing, and some are fixable and funny.

We should track all of these little treats.
The one Peterson that I own is like this; has a bad airway. Not to mention the annoying p-lip. The p-lip itself is a flaw.
Up until a minute ago, I thought you were a fountain of truth and light. I was heartbroken. Then I realized what I'd think if my one exemplar of a pipe manufacturer was a bum specimen. Then I remembered you don't like p-lips and I was sad again. Then I realized everybody's teeth are different and I got over it.

I'm watching you, though. :D
Perhaps it's my one flaw, that to me the p-lip is a flaw. Perhaps one day I'll get an expert to take a look at my flawed Peterson so I can enjoy it.
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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by Rusty » Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:01 pm

hugodrax wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:52 pm
sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:39 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 pm
It's not that rare. I have a couple of pipes that do this. They're fine smokers. What do you think tar is for? Self healing. One is hand made so it's not just factories. It tells us that they do not do a pressure test on the airway in service of detecting quality problems. They don't smoke them either. And why would they? The more interesting case are pipes in which the drilling isn't complete. The airway is not continuous end to end. You might think they would test the draw. Probably not. I'm also aware of at least one pipe with the lower stummel drilled so badly that the tenon occluded the airway when fully inserted. There are some in which the briar is foul tasting. The maker may be unaware of that too. Some are fatal, some are self healing, and some are fixable and funny.

We should track all of these little treats.
The one Peterson that I own is like this; has a bad airway. Not to mention the annoying p-lip. The p-lip itself is a flaw.
Up until a minute ago, I thought you were a fountain of truth and light. I was heartbroken. Then I realized what I'd think if my one exemplar of a pipe manufacturer was a bum specimen. Then I remembered you don't like p-lips and I was sad again. Then I realized everybody's teeth are different and I got over it.

I'm watching you, though. :D
I figured he meant that it has all of the problems I mentioned plus a p-lip. You have to wonder at the injustice of this. It must be incredibly rare for all of those problems, plus a p-lip, to occur in one pipe. At least he's crystal clear about his preferences even in the tremendous onslaught of flaws.
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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by hugodrax » Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:08 pm

Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:01 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:52 pm
sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:39 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 pm
It's not that rare. I have a couple of pipes that do this. They're fine smokers. What do you think tar is for? Self healing. One is hand made so it's not just factories. It tells us that they do not do a pressure test on the airway in service of detecting quality problems. They don't smoke them either. And why would they? The more interesting case are pipes in which the drilling isn't complete. The airway is not continuous end to end. You might think they would test the draw. Probably not. I'm also aware of at least one pipe with the lower stummel drilled so badly that the tenon occluded the airway when fully inserted. There are some in which the briar is foul tasting. The maker may be unaware of that too. Some are fatal, some are self healing, and some are fixable and funny.

We should track all of these little treats.
The one Peterson that I own is like this; has a bad airway. Not to mention the annoying p-lip. The p-lip itself is a flaw.
Up until a minute ago, I thought you were a fountain of truth and light. I was heartbroken. Then I realized what I'd think if my one exemplar of a pipe manufacturer was a bum specimen. Then I remembered you don't like p-lips and I was sad again. Then I realized everybody's teeth are different and I got over it.

I'm watching you, though. :D
I figured he meant that it has all of the problems I mentioned plus a p-lip. You have to wonder at the injustice of this. It must be incredibly rare for all of those problems, plus a p-lip, to occur in one pipe. At least he's crystal clear about his preferences even in the tremendous onslaught of flaws.
I'm on his side! For my teeth, the p-lip hangs just so behind my left eye tooth. For someone else's teeth, might be damnably uncomfortable.
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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by Rusty » Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:13 pm

hugodrax wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:08 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:01 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:52 pm
sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:39 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 pm
It's not that rare. I have a couple of pipes that do this. They're fine smokers. What do you think tar is for? Self healing. One is hand made so it's not just factories. It tells us that they do not do a pressure test on the airway in service of detecting quality problems. They don't smoke them either. And why would they? The more interesting case are pipes in which the drilling isn't complete. The airway is not continuous end to end. You might think they would test the draw. Probably not. I'm also aware of at least one pipe with the lower stummel drilled so badly that the tenon occluded the airway when fully inserted. There are some in which the briar is foul tasting. The maker may be unaware of that too. Some are fatal, some are self healing, and some are fixable and funny.

We should track all of these little treats.
The one Peterson that I own is like this; has a bad airway. Not to mention the annoying p-lip. The p-lip itself is a flaw.
Up until a minute ago, I thought you were a fountain of truth and light. I was heartbroken. Then I realized what I'd think if my one exemplar of a pipe manufacturer was a bum specimen. Then I remembered you don't like p-lips and I was sad again. Then I realized everybody's teeth are different and I got over it.

I'm watching you, though. :D
I figured he meant that it has all of the problems I mentioned plus a p-lip. You have to wonder at the injustice of this. It must be incredibly rare for all of those problems, plus a p-lip, to occur in one pipe. At least he's crystal clear about his preferences even in the tremendous onslaught of flaws.
I'm on his side! For my teeth, the p-lip hangs just so behind my left eye tooth. For someone else's teeth, might be damnably uncomfortable.
I've always enjoyed them. It turns out that there is more than one P-lip. The more expensive System Deluxe and House pipes have a wider p-lip, on the S stems, that is quite different and somewhat luxurious compared to the almost peg-like standard p-lip. The first time I experienced a std p-lip I thought of a peg-leg on a pirate and thought the pipe is a perfect fit and of course it would slip into that missing tooth gap in his grin. Aye matey.... To the devil drink a toast. We'll glut the hold with cups of gold. And we'll feed the sea with ghosts.
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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by sweetandsour » Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:29 pm

Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:13 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:08 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:01 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:52 pm
sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:39 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 pm
It's not that rare. I have a couple of pipes that do this. They're fine smokers. What do you think tar is for? Self healing. One is hand made so it's not just factories. It tells us that they do not do a pressure test on the airway in service of detecting quality problems. They don't smoke them either. And why would they? The more interesting case are pipes in which the drilling isn't complete. The airway is not continuous end to end. You might think they would test the draw. Probably not. I'm also aware of at least one pipe with the lower stummel drilled so badly that the tenon occluded the airway when fully inserted. There are some in which the briar is foul tasting. The maker may be unaware of that too. Some are fatal, some are self healing, and some are fixable and funny.

We should track all of these little treats.
The one Peterson that I own is like this; has a bad airway. Not to mention the annoying p-lip. The p-lip itself is a flaw.
Up until a minute ago, I thought you were a fountain of truth and light. I was heartbroken. Then I realized what I'd think if my one exemplar of a pipe manufacturer was a bum specimen. Then I remembered you don't like p-lips and I was sad again. Then I realized everybody's teeth are different and I got over it.

I'm watching you, though. :D
I figured he meant that it has all of the problems I mentioned plus a p-lip. You have to wonder at the injustice of this. It must be incredibly rare for all of those problems, plus a p-lip, to occur in one pipe. At least he's crystal clear about his preferences even in the tremendous onslaught of flaws.
I'm on his side! For my teeth, the p-lip hangs just so behind my left eye tooth. For someone else's teeth, might be damnably uncomfortable.
I've always enjoyed them. It turns out that there is more than one P-lip. The more expensive System Deluxe and House pipes have a wider p-lip, on the S stems, that is quite different and somewhat luxurious compared to the almost peg-like standard p-lip. The first time I experienced a std p-lip I thought of a peg-leg on a pirate and thought the pipe is a perfect fit and of course it would slip into that missing tooth gap in his grin. Aye matey.... To the devil drink a toast. We'll glut the hold with cups of gold. And we'll feed the sea with ghosts.
Yes, to your correct figuring. Off-hand, I'd compare my one p-lip to stair treads that are too narrow and too short. Your stride is too long to take one stair-step at a time, and too short to take two or more steps per stride.
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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by Rusty » Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:55 pm

sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:29 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:13 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:08 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:01 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:52 pm
sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:39 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 pm
It's not that rare. I have a couple of pipes that do this. They're fine smokers. What do you think tar is for? Self healing. One is hand made so it's not just factories. It tells us that they do not do a pressure test on the airway in service of detecting quality problems. They don't smoke them either. And why would they? The more interesting case are pipes in which the drilling isn't complete. The airway is not continuous end to end. You might think they would test the draw. Probably not. I'm also aware of at least one pipe with the lower stummel drilled so badly that the tenon occluded the airway when fully inserted. There are some in which the briar is foul tasting. The maker may be unaware of that too. Some are fatal, some are self healing, and some are fixable and funny.

We should track all of these little treats.
The one Peterson that I own is like this; has a bad airway. Not to mention the annoying p-lip. The p-lip itself is a flaw.
Up until a minute ago, I thought you were a fountain of truth and light. I was heartbroken. Then I realized what I'd think if my one exemplar of a pipe manufacturer was a bum specimen. Then I remembered you don't like p-lips and I was sad again. Then I realized everybody's teeth are different and I got over it.

I'm watching you, though. :D
I figured he meant that it has all of the problems I mentioned plus a p-lip. You have to wonder at the injustice of this. It must be incredibly rare for all of those problems, plus a p-lip, to occur in one pipe. At least he's crystal clear about his preferences even in the tremendous onslaught of flaws.
I'm on his side! For my teeth, the p-lip hangs just so behind my left eye tooth. For someone else's teeth, might be damnably uncomfortable.
I've always enjoyed them. It turns out that there is more than one P-lip. The more expensive System Deluxe and House pipes have a wider p-lip, on the S stems, that is quite different and somewhat luxurious compared to the almost peg-like standard p-lip. The first time I experienced a std p-lip I thought of a peg-leg on a pirate and thought the pipe is a perfect fit and of course it would slip into that missing tooth gap in his grin. Aye matey.... To the devil drink a toast. We'll glut the hold with cups of gold. And we'll feed the sea with ghosts.
Yes, to your correct figuring. Off-hand, I'd compare my one p-lip to stair treads that are too narrow and too short. Your stride is too long to take one stair-step at a time, and too short to take two or more steps per stride.
Irish steps, built by the English, and serviced by maniacal canucks (they dress them in snow). Deadly. Let's gift wrap it and send it to the yanks!

Because of the incredibly low odds of finding another pipe with all those flaws serially occurring in one pipe as if the assembly line stopped while demons did their work... I'd suggest you're probably immunized against a repeat. Now of course nature has no memory but for you that's a good thing.
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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by sweetandsour » Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:58 pm

Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:55 pm
sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:29 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:13 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:08 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:01 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:52 pm
sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:39 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 pm
It's not that rare. I have a couple of pipes that do this. They're fine smokers. What do you think tar is for? Self healing. One is hand made so it's not just factories. It tells us that they do not do a pressure test on the airway in service of detecting quality problems. They don't smoke them either. And why would they? The more interesting case are pipes in which the drilling isn't complete. The airway is not continuous end to end. You might think they would test the draw. Probably not. I'm also aware of at least one pipe with the lower stummel drilled so badly that the tenon occluded the airway when fully inserted. There are some in which the briar is foul tasting. The maker may be unaware of that too. Some are fatal, some are self healing, and some are fixable and funny.

We should track all of these little treats.
The one Peterson that I own is like this; has a bad airway. Not to mention the annoying p-lip. The p-lip itself is a flaw.
Up until a minute ago, I thought you were a fountain of truth and light. I was heartbroken. Then I realized what I'd think if my one exemplar of a pipe manufacturer was a bum specimen. Then I remembered you don't like p-lips and I was sad again. Then I realized everybody's teeth are different and I got over it.

I'm watching you, though. :D
I figured he meant that it has all of the problems I mentioned plus a p-lip. You have to wonder at the injustice of this. It must be incredibly rare for all of those problems, plus a p-lip, to occur in one pipe. At least he's crystal clear about his preferences even in the tremendous onslaught of flaws.
I'm on his side! For my teeth, the p-lip hangs just so behind my left eye tooth. For someone else's teeth, might be damnably uncomfortable.
I've always enjoyed them. It turns out that there is more than one P-lip. The more expensive System Deluxe and House pipes have a wider p-lip, on the S stems, that is quite different and somewhat luxurious compared to the almost peg-like standard p-lip. The first time I experienced a std p-lip I thought of a peg-leg on a pirate and thought the pipe is a perfect fit and of course it would slip into that missing tooth gap in his grin. Aye matey.... To the devil drink a toast. We'll glut the hold with cups of gold. And we'll feed the sea with ghosts.
Yes, to your correct figuring. Off-hand, I'd compare my one p-lip to stair treads that are too narrow and too short. Your stride is too long to take one stair-step at a time, and too short to take two or more steps per stride.
Irish steps, built by the English, and serviced by maniacal canucks (they dress them in snow). Deadly. Let's gift wrap it and send it to the yanks!

Because of the incredibly low odds of finding another pipe with all those flaws serially occurring in one pipe as if the assembly line stopped while demons did their work... I'd suggest you're probably immunized against a repeat. Now of course nature has no memory but for you that's a good thing.
So you're saying that I have that going for me.
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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by hugodrax » Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:43 am

sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:58 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:55 pm
sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:29 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:13 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:08 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:01 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:52 pm
sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:39 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 pm
It's not that rare. I have a couple of pipes that do this. They're fine smokers. What do you think tar is for? Self healing. One is hand made so it's not just factories. It tells us that they do not do a pressure test on the airway in service of detecting quality problems. They don't smoke them either. And why would they? The more interesting case are pipes in which the drilling isn't complete. The airway is not continuous end to end. You might think they would test the draw. Probably not. I'm also aware of at least one pipe with the lower stummel drilled so badly that the tenon occluded the airway when fully inserted. There are some in which the briar is foul tasting. The maker may be unaware of that too. Some are fatal, some are self healing, and some are fixable and funny.

We should track all of these little treats.
The one Peterson that I own is like this; has a bad airway. Not to mention the annoying p-lip. The p-lip itself is a flaw.
Up until a minute ago, I thought you were a fountain of truth and light. I was heartbroken. Then I realized what I'd think if my one exemplar of a pipe manufacturer was a bum specimen. Then I remembered you don't like p-lips and I was sad again. Then I realized everybody's teeth are different and I got over it.

I'm watching you, though. :D
I figured he meant that it has all of the problems I mentioned plus a p-lip. You have to wonder at the injustice of this. It must be incredibly rare for all of those problems, plus a p-lip, to occur in one pipe. At least he's crystal clear about his preferences even in the tremendous onslaught of flaws.
I'm on his side! For my teeth, the p-lip hangs just so behind my left eye tooth. For someone else's teeth, might be damnably uncomfortable.
I've always enjoyed them. It turns out that there is more than one P-lip. The more expensive System Deluxe and House pipes have a wider p-lip, on the S stems, that is quite different and somewhat luxurious compared to the almost peg-like standard p-lip. The first time I experienced a std p-lip I thought of a peg-leg on a pirate and thought the pipe is a perfect fit and of course it would slip into that missing tooth gap in his grin. Aye matey.... To the devil drink a toast. We'll glut the hold with cups of gold. And we'll feed the sea with ghosts.
Yes, to your correct figuring. Off-hand, I'd compare my one p-lip to stair treads that are too narrow and too short. Your stride is too long to take one stair-step at a time, and too short to take two or more steps per stride.
Irish steps, built by the English, and serviced by maniacal canucks (they dress them in snow). Deadly. Let's gift wrap it and send it to the yanks!

Because of the incredibly low odds of finding another pipe with all those flaws serially occurring in one pipe as if the assembly line stopped while demons did their work... I'd suggest you're probably immunized against a repeat. Now of course nature has no memory but for you that's a good thing.
So you're saying that I have that going for me.
Could be worse, right?

I'd be cheesed about that Stanwell.
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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by SlowToke » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:53 pm

sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:55 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:52 pm
sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:39 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 pm
It's not that rare. I have a couple of pipes that do this. They're fine smokers. What do you think tar is for? Self healing. One is hand made so it's not just factories. It tells us that they do not do a pressure test on the airway in service of detecting quality problems. They don't smoke them either. And why would they? The more interesting case are pipes in which the drilling isn't complete. The airway is not continuous end to end. You might think they would test the draw. Probably not. I'm also aware of at least one pipe with the lower stummel drilled so badly that the tenon occluded the airway when fully inserted. There are some in which the briar is foul tasting. The maker may be unaware of that too. Some are fatal, some are self healing, and some are fixable and funny.

We should track all of these little treats.
The one Peterson that I own is like this; has a bad airway. Not to mention the annoying p-lip. The p-lip itself is a flaw.
Up until a minute ago, I thought you were a fountain of truth and light. I was heartbroken. Then I realized what I'd think if my one exemplar of a pipe manufacturer was a bum specimen. Then I remembered you don't like p-lips and I was sad again. Then I realized everybody's teeth are different and I got over it.

I'm watching you, though. :D
Perhaps it's my one flaw, that to me the p-lip is a flaw. Perhaps one day I'll get an expert to take a look at my flawed Peterson so I can enjoy it.
My advice would be to sell it. That's what I did with all but a couple of my Peterson's because they were so poorly drilled. Then again, take my advice with a grain of salt. I've recommended Stanwell's as the best quality factory pipe to countless people.
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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by sweetandsour » Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:45 pm

SlowToke wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:53 pm
sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:55 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:52 pm
sweetandsour wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:39 pm
Rusty wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 pm
It's not that rare. I have a couple of pipes that do this. They're fine smokers. What do you think tar is for? Self healing. One is hand made so it's not just factories. It tells us that they do not do a pressure test on the airway in service of detecting quality problems. They don't smoke them either. And why would they? The more interesting case are pipes in which the drilling isn't complete. The airway is not continuous end to end. You might think they would test the draw. Probably not. I'm also aware of at least one pipe with the lower stummel drilled so badly that the tenon occluded the airway when fully inserted. There are some in which the briar is foul tasting. The maker may be unaware of that too. Some are fatal, some are self healing, and some are fixable and funny.

We should track all of these little treats.
The one Peterson that I own is like this; has a bad airway. Not to mention the annoying p-lip. The p-lip itself is a flaw.
Up until a minute ago, I thought you were a fountain of truth and light. I was heartbroken. Then I realized what I'd think if my one exemplar of a pipe manufacturer was a bum specimen. Then I remembered you don't like p-lips and I was sad again. Then I realized everybody's teeth are different and I got over it.

I'm watching you, though. :D
Perhaps it's my one flaw, that to me the p-lip is a flaw. Perhaps one day I'll get an expert to take a look at my flawed Peterson so I can enjoy it.
My advice would be to sell it. That's what I did with all but a couple of my Peterson's because they were so poorly drilled. Then again, take my advice with a grain of salt. I've recommended Stanwell's as the best quality factory pipe to countless people.
Thanks, that's good advice, but I'll keep it. Perhaps some day I'll mess with it to try to make it better. But until then it gives me something to gripe about, although I really love it's looks. Besides, I bought it from a cps-er to help finance his honeymoon and I think it'd be bad luck and in poor taste to not hang on to it.
I'm old but I'm happy. (Most of the time.)

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Re: Unacceptable Factory Pipe Flaws

Post by Cleon » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:02 pm

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Astleys lovat. I think it was made by the same house that makes Upshalls. I can't remember.

Ah, I really wanted to like this pipe. On the exterior it was everything I was looking for.It was small and light. Had a nice cumberland stem and a nice burgundy stain with some decent grain. I like the textured silver band too. But the drilling was horrible. It was high and to one side, entering the bowl high and to one side - so I sent it back. Knowing what I know now, I should have just kept it and smoked it because I rarely smoke all the way to the bottom anyway.

I purchased this one years ago and it was the first pipe I ever sent back. I regret it.
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