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What is this pipe?

Post by ReverendThom » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:22 pm

Watching the Denzel Washington movie, the Great Debaters. He smokes a nice pipe in it.

I wonder what kind of pipe it is. Not great shots online of it. I'll take some pics of my own when the movies over.

For now, any guesses?

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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by A_Morley » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:31 pm

It's either a Peterson System or a Dr Grabow Omega. I'd err on the side of caution and say that it's a Grabow as a great many of them are made and they're easy for property masters and wardrobe departments to come by. I've seen Grabows in three separate productions I've been involved with in some way and have definitely seen them in films before.

It just might be a WDC Wellington, but I doubt it.
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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by JimVH » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:31 pm

Wellington?
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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by A_Morley » Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:39 pm

JimVH wrote:
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Wellington?
Are you saying it might be a Wellington or asking what a Wellington is?
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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by JimVH » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:35 pm

A_Morley wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:39 pm
JimVH wrote:
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Wellington?
Are you saying it might be a Wellington or asking what a Wellington is?
It might be a Wellington. I didn't see that we both posted at the same time.
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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by ReverendThom » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:53 pm

Fudge. Of course I forgot to take a better picture before returning the movie.

I was guessing a Pete at first, too. Now I think all 3 could be possible. Hmmm

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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by UncleBob » Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:24 pm

The stem doesn't lookright, to me, to be a Pete or a Graybow. It looks like a Wellington stem.
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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by ReverendThom » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:16 pm

UncleBob wrote:The stem doesn't lookright, to me, to be a Pete or a Graybow. It looks like a Wellington stem.
Baby Wellington?

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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by UncleBob » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:53 pm

ReverendThom wrote:
Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:16 pm
UncleBob wrote:The stem doesn't lookright, to me, to be a Pete or a Graybow. It looks like a Wellington stem.
Baby Wellington?

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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by SlowToke » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:20 pm

I was thinking Wellington also based on the stem flare.
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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by DepartedLight » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:23 pm

I'm offended by the word Wellington.
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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by Rusty » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:47 pm

DepartedLight wrote:
Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:23 pm
I'm offended by the word Wellington.
Very British. Upper Class. The Duke of Wellington, Arthur Wellesley. Napoleon's nemesis. He was actually Anglo-Irish. He left us boots - Wellington Boots. In his day they were leather but now they're rubber. For the way we use them, better that they're rubber. Some claim he also left us Beef Wellington. It may be that it was named after him later. He also should be remembered for promoting Catholic equality in Britain. That was somewhat daring at the time and he was perhaps one of few politicians who could promote this. He was prime minister when he did this.

He and Viscount Vice-Admiral Horatio Nelson actually met. That would have been interesting to see. The two of them are icons of British Battle commanders to this day.

From Wikipedia:
In September 1805, Major-General Wellesley was newly returned from his campaigns in India and was not yet particularly well-known to the public. He reported to the office of the Secretary for War to request a new assignment. In the waiting room he met Vice-Admiral Horatio Nelson, already a legendary figure after his victories at the Nile and Copenhagen, who was briefly in England after months chasing the French Toulon fleet to the West Indies and back. Some 30 years later, Wellington recalled a conversation that Nelson began with him which Wellesley found "almost all on his side in a style so vain and silly as to surprise and almost disgust me". Nelson left the room to inquire who the young general was and, on his return, switched to a very different tone, discussing the war, the state of the colonies, and the geopolitical situation as between equals. On this second discussion, Wellington recalled, "I don't know that I ever had a conversation that interested me more". This was the only time that the two men met; Nelson was killed at his great victory at Trafalgar just seven weeks later.
Did WDC want to suggest British in the Wellington pipes? Stanwell did it and they were of course Danish.
Quite possibly.

I've never seen one up close. They weren't distributed in Canada AFAIK. We had Peterson pipes - pitched as very Irish.
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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by parson » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:40 pm

A_Morley wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:31 pm
It's either a Peterson System or a Dr Grabow Omega. I'd err on the side of caution and say that it's a Grabow as a great many of them are made and they're easy for property masters and wardrobe departments to come by. I've seen Grabows in three separate productions I've been involved with in some way and have definitely seen them in films before.

It just might be a WDC Wellington, but I doubt it.
Those were the three possibilities I came up with as well.

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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by joegoat » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:34 am

Wellington is my guess as well.
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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by FredS » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:33 am

Seriously, I was going with Wellington based on the second photo. Then I saw all the other response with the same suggestion, so I'll say it's a pretty good bet. I have a similar Wellington but it's about twice that size.
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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by A_Morley » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:57 am

I'm willing to retract my assertion that it was a Grabow Wellington based on the shape of the bowl and the thickness of the walls. I still think that a Peterson is a more likely choice than a Wellington.
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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by DepartedLight » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:15 pm

Rusty wrote:
Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:47 pm
DepartedLight wrote:
Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:23 pm
I'm offended by the word Wellington.
Very British. Upper Class. The Duke of Wellington, Arthur Wellesley. Napoleon's nemesis. He was actually Anglo-Irish. He left us boots - Wellington Boots. In his day they were leather but now they're rubber. For the way we use them, better that they're rubber. Some claim he also left us Beef Wellington. It may be that it was named after him later. He also should be remembered for promoting Catholic equality in Britain. That was somewhat daring at the time and he was perhaps one of few politicians who could promote this. He was prime minister when he did this.

He and Viscount Vice-Admiral Horatio Nelson actually met. That would have been interesting to see. The two of them are icons of British Battle commanders to this day.

From Wikipedia:
In September 1805, Major-General Wellesley was newly returned from his campaigns in India and was not yet particularly well-known to the public. He reported to the office of the Secretary for War to request a new assignment. In the waiting room he met Vice-Admiral Horatio Nelson, already a legendary figure after his victories at the Nile and Copenhagen, who was briefly in England after months chasing the French Toulon fleet to the West Indies and back. Some 30 years later, Wellington recalled a conversation that Nelson began with him which Wellesley found "almost all on his side in a style so vain and silly as to surprise and almost disgust me". Nelson left the room to inquire who the young general was and, on his return, switched to a very different tone, discussing the war, the state of the colonies, and the geopolitical situation as between equals. On this second discussion, Wellington recalled, "I don't know that I ever had a conversation that interested me more". This was the only time that the two men met; Nelson was killed at his great victory at Trafalgar just seven weeks later.
Did WDC want to suggest British in the Wellington pipes? Stanwell did it and they were of course Danish.
Quite possibly.

I've never seen one up close. They weren't distributed in Canada AFAIK. We had Peterson pipes - pitched as very Irish.
I said I was offended. I did not say, copy and past crap from the interwebs on what I am offended by. And as a hint, it's about the damn boots. OK?
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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by hugodrax » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:41 pm

Are you sure whiskey is your friend? Same time every night, my sane buddy checks out of normalcy. Does look like fun, though.
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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by ReverendThom » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:56 pm

Ok somebody needs to find this movie and get me a better picture! :)

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Re: What is this pipe?

Post by JimVH » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:12 pm

This thread needs a poll.
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