That'd be better. I like to think we can discuss the dark night without reducing what is a serious topic - that is, the distressing feeling that God is distant - without reducing it to a cute poster a 12 year old girl might put on her bedroom wall.Hovannes wrote:You want that I should reference St John of the Cross and the Dark Night of the Soul?FredS wrote:Thank you, Hov, for not mentioning the single set of footprints in the sand.Hovannes wrote:He's OK.
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Yes. We won't be having any of that simple, childlike faith.FredS wrote:That'd be better. I like to think we can discuss the dark night without reducing what is a serious topic - that is, the distressing feeling that God is distant - without reducing it to a cute poster a 12 year old girl might put on her bedroom wall.Hovannes wrote:You want that I should reference St John of the Cross and the Dark Night of the Soul?FredS wrote:Thank you, Hov, for not mentioning the single set of footprints in the sand.Hovannes wrote:He's OK.
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I'm sure that gives it a sad.hugodrax wrote:I profoundly dislike that lighterJimVH wrote:I carry those footprints with me, so I'm never alone.FredS wrote:Thank you, Hov, for not mentioning the single set of footprints in the sand.Hovannes wrote:He's OK.
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Fainn wrote:I really want to hear your thoughts on this.
Also what exactly is the unpardonable sin?
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I profoundly distrust otherwise good men who write like that.JimVH wrote:I'm sure that gives it a sad.hugodrax wrote:I profoundly dislike that lighterJimVH wrote:I carry those footprints with me, so I'm never alone.FredS wrote:Thank you, Hov, for not mentioning the single set of footprints in the sand.Hovannes wrote:He's OK.
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Quick explanation: Compare the verses that speak on the unpardonable sin. The person who these verses are talking about simply doesn't care that he has done so. He has an attitude of recalcitrance and unrepentance.Roadmaster wrote:Coco would know.Fainn wrote:I had heard that, but is there a Bible verse to back it up?Roadmaster wrote:My understanding of this is if you are worried about it you haven't committed it.
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Yep, that one works.tuttle wrote:There is now no condemnation for those who are in ChristFainn wrote:I had heard that, but is there a Bible verse to back it up?Roadmaster wrote:My understanding of this is if you are worried about it you haven't committed it.
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This is good pastoral advice, Fainn. Heed it.hugodrax wrote:Yo, Fainn? You listening?
You're going through a rough patch right now. Youre a little down, but you aren't out. I have a feeling when times get rough, you beat the hell out of yourself. You know what? You're a good guy. We like you.
I'm going to say it again because you need to hear it. You aren't evil. You're beard isn't a false idol. And you're sure as hell not blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. It's not in you.
So pick yourself up. Pray for some strength to get through the down times, some hope that this will get better, and for charity towards your fellow man. Scratch a dog. Look at the beautiful outdoors. Hug your wife. Smoke a pipe.
And for FredS sake, people. You can argue about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin all you like, but sometimes a man just needs to know he's ok, ok? Tell the man he's ok.
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I'm listening. I was asleep at the time because I struggle with insomnia. Thanks for the words of encouragement.hugodrax wrote:Yo, Fainn? You listening?
You're going through a rough patch right now. Youre a little down, but you aren't out. I have a feeling when times get rough, you beat the hell out of yourself. You know what? You're a good guy. We like you.
I'm going to say it again because you need to hear it. You aren't evil. You're beard isn't a false idol. And you're sure as hell not blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. It's not in you.
So pick yourself up. Pray for some strength to get through the down times, some hope that this will get better, and for charity towards your fellow man. Scratch a dog. Look at the beautiful outdoors. Hug your wife. Smoke a pipe.
And for FredS sake, people. You can argue about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin all you like, but sometimes a man just needs to know he's ok, ok? Tell the man he's ok.
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Thanks Hov.Hovannes wrote:He's OK.
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I went to Family Christian bookstore after going to the happiest place on Earth, Bass Pro Shop. I bought a copy of Destroying the Spirit of Rejection by John Eckhardt. It seems to address some of what I've been dealing with.
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"Sand people alwaysrride single file to hide their numbers."FredS wrote:Thank you, Hov, for not mentioning the single set of footprints in the sand.Hovannes wrote:He's OK.
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"He who controls the spice controls the universe."TNLawPiper wrote:"Sand people alwaysrride single file to hide their numbers."FredS wrote:Thank you, Hov, for not mentioning the single set of footprints in the sand.Hovannes wrote:He's OK.
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"42"Onyx wrote:"He who controls the spice controls the universe."TNLawPiper wrote:"Sand people alwaysrride single file to hide their numbers."FredS wrote:Thank you, Hov, for not mentioning the single set of footprints in the sand.Hovannes wrote:He's OK.
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Are these some sort of Star Wars references?coco wrote:"42"Onyx wrote:"He who controls the spice controls the universe."TNLawPiper wrote:"Sand people alwaysrride single file to hide their numbers."FredS wrote:Thank you, Hov, for not mentioning the single set of footprints in the sand.Hovannes wrote:He's OK.
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To infinity ... and beyond!FredS wrote:Are these some sort of Star Wars references?coco wrote:"42"Onyx wrote:"He who controls the spice controls the universe."TNLawPiper wrote:"Sand people alwaysrride single file to hide their numbers."FredS wrote:Thank you, Hov, for not mentioning the single set of footprints in the sand.Hovannes wrote:He's OK.
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Make it so, Number One.FredS wrote:Are these some sort of Star Wars references?coco wrote:"42"Onyx wrote:"He who controls the spice controls the universe."TNLawPiper wrote:"Sand people alwaysrride single file to hide their numbers."FredS wrote:Thank you, Hov, for not mentioning the single set of footprints in the sand.Hovannes wrote:He's OK.
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A Christian is sealed with the Holy Spirit of God, and our Lord said He would never leave us or forsake us.Fainn wrote:I really want to hear your thoughts on this.
Also what exactly is the unpardonable sin?
I think the unpardonable sin is callously, and relentlessly calling the presence and influence of God, of the devil.
God initiated and continues to be the One who brings peace from and with God.
Lastly, I don't think you have committed the unpardonable sin. Otherwise, you would not be here posting and asking about it.
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So you think its like a movement of the Holy Spirit, like at church, and saying its from G-d's enemy?Goose55 wrote:A Christian is sealed with the Holy Spirit of God, and our Lord said He would never leave us or forsake us.Fainn wrote:I really want to hear your thoughts on this.
Also what exactly is the unpardonable sin?
I think the unpardonable sin is callously, and relentlessly calling the presence and influence of God, of the devil.
God initiated and continues to be the One who brings peace from and with God.
Lastly, I don't think you have committed the unpardonable sin. Otherwise, you would not be here posting and asking about it.
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Re: Can a True Christian Commit the Unpardonable Sin?
Most likely it isn't a spiritual matter at all. Human nature has its own strange ways, and blasphemic thoughts often occur as easy as this:Fainn wrote:So you think its like a movement of the Holy Spirit, like at church, and saying its from G-d's enemy?Goose55 wrote:A Christian is sealed with the Holy Spirit of God, and our Lord said He would never leave us or forsake us.Fainn wrote:I really want to hear your thoughts on this.
Also what exactly is the unpardonable sin?
I think the unpardonable sin is callously, and relentlessly calling the presence and influence of God, of the devil.
God initiated and continues to be the One who brings peace from and with God.
Lastly, I don't think you have committed the unpardonable sin. Otherwise, you would not be here posting and asking about it.

I think you are just trying to take faith seriously, which is good, but there is not any unpardonable thought on earth.
Unpardonable is, if you forever don't want to be pardoned.