It is most true.Skip wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:19 pmRead my sig, redneck. I convinced Del to purchase his first kilt after I already owned multiple thereof.durangopipe wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:13 pmTo see them wearing skirts, uh kilts, uh . . . whatever?Onyx wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:34 pmI read Del on CPS for the same reason I follow Jaden Smith on twitter.Skip wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:52 pmMasochist. You have Dial-a-Mistress on speed dial?Onyx wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:17 pmThis is my new favourite thread.Del wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:51 pmI will gladly accept correction.Skip wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:20 pmDel, if you want to discuss Catholicism, you go for it. When it comes to Protestants, you really need to shut the f*** up. Sometimes, you have your head so far up your own ass that you're breathing brown air. Correlation doesn't imply causation.Del wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:58 pmThat sounds about right.
I don't know the history of Eastern heresies much after 1000. But about that time, the Albigensian heresy started to rise quickly in the West, and it was a powerful denial of baptism and the Eucharist.
The Albigensians (or as they called themselves, "Cathars" = "purified ones") believed in two gods -- a good God who created the spiritual realm, and an evil god who created the material realm. Thus, Jesus could not have incarnated in a material body. He appeared to us in the semblance of a body, to save us from the evil of our own flesh. He only appeared to die, etc.
As a result, the notion that Jesus could give us His own "body" was absurd to them. He could only give us His spirit, because that is all that He has to give.
Like modern Jehovah's Witnesses, they used the Christian Bible -- but they did not believe in Trinitarian Christian faith.
Some Protestant traditions adopted the puritanical extremes of the Cathars. This is where the practice of "no drinking, smoking, or dancing" came from, and the iconoclasm that refuses sacred art or images of Christ's body on a cross.
The culture of the tradition of the Albigensian heresy was still strong in French-speaking regions, such as Geneva. Calvin did not invent the desire for ascetic purification... he found it in the people already. (Same reason St. Francis's order was so popular and successful.... People responded favorably to the poor, happy, and holy friars.)
Protestantism came out of Catholicism and the Western heresies. That is why it does not resemble Orthodoxy or the Eastern heresies. We can't talk about Catholicism and Protestantism as two different things until we understand their common history and shared tradition.
Now, back to the sarcasm...
Skip not only coached me into buying my first kilt.... He later gave me courage to wear it outside the house.
When people ask my why I started wearing kilts, I say that it began with pipe smoking.... then I met a friend in Chicago who is a big, burly, bearded, Harley-riding guy who wore a kilt.... and I said, "Man, that's cool!"