What is "Navy"

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Re: What is

Post by JudgeRusty » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:01 pm

So, is there a rule about the component tobaccos within Navy Blends?
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Re: What is

Post by JudgeRusty » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:04 pm

from a different thread:
Rusty wrote:
Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:36 pm
Bloodhound wrote:I do get a taste of Rum and for sure the smell of Rum in the tin with the MB Navy Flake.
Really? I think there is no Rum on that one. Something with honey maybe. It's more Burley than Virginia as well which is another difference.
Bloodhound wrote:there is enough difference between the different Brands that they can reside and rotate through my pipes without getting repetitive ... something special about each one of them...
Yes, there is a huge variety of so called navy tobaccos. Ropes have a naval tradition as well. In fact Escudo is (or was) sliced rope. But in form, tobacco constituents, toppings 'navy' has more historical significance than as an adjective that denotes any one thing about the tobaccos. I can't think of a single attribute that they all share.

It can mean rope, flake, coin/curly, rum flavour, honey/mead flavour, Va, Va/Per, Burley, Va with a little Latakia, plus fire-cured versions of Va, Burley etc.
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Re: What is

Post by JudgeRusty » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:09 pm

Another expert says
UncleBob wrote:
Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:02 pm
Traditionally, its a pressed flake usually topped with rum. Now, its usually a pressed flake, usually Virginia, with some kind of light topping.
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Re: What is

Post by JudgeRusty » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:17 pm

and, from the senility department:
UncleBob wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:31 am
JudgeRusty wrote:What is the etymology of the term "Navy" in some tobacco blends?

(i.e. Dark Navy Flake, Luxury Navy Flake)?
As I understand it, Navy refers to Navy Flake which was pressed Virginia with some rum. This was preferred by sailors for two reasons: (1) the flake allowed sailors to be able to smoke in the wind and (2) it was easier to store.
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Re: What is

Post by hugodrax » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:53 pm

I agree with Bob on this one. Traditionally, sailors moistened their tobacco with rum, wrapped it tightly in sail cloth and bound it with rope. It's really hard to believe the average sailor would have been able to access, let alone afford, latakia tobacco, at least until after the Crimean War. Moreover, they liked their tobacco hot and strong and would probably not have been enamored of low nicotine Syrian tobacco.
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Re: What is

Post by DepartedLight » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:23 pm

SlowToke wrote: What exactly is a Navy.
It’s an organization concerned with Defending a sovereign state specializing in huge war ships and planes but, that’s not important right now.
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Re: What is "Navy"

Post by Jflo » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:50 pm

Rusty wrote:We all still fiddle to protect and preserve our tobacco. That's the real connection with the early sailors and us. The form of the tobacco and the tools we have dictate the solutions but really the connection is there.

Years ago I experienced the connection more directly. We used to be able to buy leaf wrapped in kraft paper from the growers. I wouldn't be surprised if those of you that live in NC might still be able to buy this in the markets there. There were a variety of sizes from 4oz up to a pound. Here in Canada there was a choice of two: air-cured or Flue-cured. Of course one was Burley and the other was Virginia. Inside the package was shriveled whole leaf including stems and the leaf veins. It was quite dry and fragile of course. The first time I bought it I was too stupid to ask how to prepare it. So I did what seemed reasonable. I moistened it and then rolled it into a tube, wrapped it in twine, and then sliced it into coins. I even made a board with a knife, attached at the far end of the blade, to make cutting easier. The one thing I didn't do was to let it mature for a while before cutting it. The next time I went back I described what I had done and the seller said 'That's it!, That's what you do to prepare it." He is the one that explained that I had just repeated a process that is hundreds of years old and it's called Navy Cut.[/quot

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