My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

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My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by FoodMaven » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:20 pm

To those who want to make their own Frogmorton. In a moment of clarity of my mind, while seeing Pipe Smokers talk about the "ketchupy" taste of Frogmorton Tobacco, I realized that the casing is with malt vinegar. I also believe that the vinegar was mixed with (food grade) glycerin. I've never smelled Frog Morton, but at several sites, the reference is always to vinegary flavor or ketchupy aroma. I'm cross posting this at as many sites as possible. Feel free to share, please.

If your taste of this reminds you of ketchup, the basic flavor profile for ketchup is vinegar, sugar, cinnamon, allspice and cloves.

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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by hugodrax » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:32 pm

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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by coco » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:37 pm

Please try it and tell us about your findings.
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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by hugodrax » Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:10 pm

coco wrote:
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Please try it and tell us about your findings.
I suspect he's right, you know.
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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by DepartedLight » Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:02 pm

FoodMaven wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:20 pm
To those who want to make their own Frogmorton. In a moment of clarity of my mind, while seeing Pipe Smokers talk about the "ketchupy" taste of Frogmorton Tobacco, I realized that the casing is with malt vinegar. I also believe that the vinegar was mixed with (food grade) glycerin. I've never smelled Frog Morton, but at several sites, the reference is always to vinegary flavor or ketchupy aroma. I'm cross posting this at as many sites as possible. Feel free to share, please.

If your taste of this reminds you of ketchup, the basic flavor profile for ketchup is vinegar, sugar, cinnamon, allspice and cloves.
No tomato in there whatsoever?

Vinegar & sugar, I can see.

Cinnamon, allspice and cloves? I dunno 'bout that, Batman. That sounds more like a Christmas ham.
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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by coco » Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:20 pm

DepartedLight wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:02 pm
FoodMaven wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:20 pm
To those who want to make their own Frogmorton. In a moment of clarity of my mind, while seeing Pipe Smokers talk about the "ketchupy" taste of Frogmorton Tobacco, I realized that the casing is with malt vinegar. I also believe that the vinegar was mixed with (food grade) glycerin. I've never smelled Frog Morton, but at several sites, the reference is always to vinegary flavor or ketchupy aroma. I'm cross posting this at as many sites as possible. Feel free to share, please.

If your taste of this reminds you of ketchup, the basic flavor profile for ketchup is vinegar, sugar, cinnamon, allspice and cloves.
No tomato in there whatsoever?

Vinegar & sugar, I can see.

Cinnamon, allspice and cloves? I dunno 'bout that, Batman. That sounds more like a Christmas ham.
...And then the tobacco fairies began to flit this way and that, as they worked feverishly on a new "Christmas Ham" blend. "More bouillon," one of them said in a small, shrill voice.
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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by Del » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:35 pm

coco wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:20 pm
DepartedLight wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:02 pm
FoodMaven wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:20 pm
To those who want to make their own Frogmorton. In a moment of clarity of my mind, while seeing Pipe Smokers talk about the "ketchupy" taste of Frogmorton Tobacco, I realized that the casing is with malt vinegar. I also believe that the vinegar was mixed with (food grade) glycerin. I've never smelled Frog Morton, but at several sites, the reference is always to vinegary flavor or ketchupy aroma. I'm cross posting this at as many sites as possible. Feel free to share, please.

If your taste of this reminds you of ketchup, the basic flavor profile for ketchup is vinegar, sugar, cinnamon, allspice and cloves.
No tomato in there whatsoever?

Vinegar & sugar, I can see.

Cinnamon, allspice and cloves? I dunno 'bout that, Batman. That sounds more like a Christmas ham.
...And then the tobacco fairies began to flit this way and that, as they worked feverishly on a new "Christmas Ham" blend. "More bouillon," one of them said in a small, shrill voice.
Vinegar is a product of natural fermentation. The microbes poop out esters and spicy notes, as well as acetic acid.

Aged virginia tobacco is also subject to natural fermentation. And thus, a freshly opened tin reminds us of ketchup.

I hate to be the one to tell ya there, FoodMaven...... This aroma is not a casing. A freshly packed tin doesn't smell like ketchup. We can't replicate this with flavor additives.

I hope you are yanking our chain. But if you've really posted this to many sites, please share some of the hilarious responses with us!

The bar was set for this sort of joke when a tin of canned lamb was posted on Tobacco Reviews:
http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend/295 ... ake-slices
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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by DepartedLight » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:18 pm

coco wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:20 pm
DepartedLight wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:02 pm
FoodMaven wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:20 pm
To those who want to make their own Frogmorton. In a moment of clarity of my mind, while seeing Pipe Smokers talk about the "ketchupy" taste of Frogmorton Tobacco, I realized that the casing is with malt vinegar. I also believe that the vinegar was mixed with (food grade) glycerin. I've never smelled Frog Morton, but at several sites, the reference is always to vinegary flavor or ketchupy aroma. I'm cross posting this at as many sites as possible. Feel free to share, please.

If your taste of this reminds you of ketchup, the basic flavor profile for ketchup is vinegar, sugar, cinnamon, allspice and cloves.
No tomato in there whatsoever?

Vinegar & sugar, I can see.

Cinnamon, allspice and cloves? I dunno 'bout that, Batman. That sounds more like a Christmas ham.
...And then the tobacco fairies began to flit this way and that, as they worked feverishly on a new "Christmas Ham" blend. "More bouillon," one of them said in a small, shrill voice.
The TF-HQ R&D Fairies are far more manly than this. We have no small nor shrill voice.

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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by Joshoowah » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:50 am

Why can't we just let things die? I say that as a lover of all things Frog Morton.
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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by Jester » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:26 am

Joshoowah wrote:
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Why can't we just let things die? I say that as a lover of all things Frog Morton.
My son has a frog plush toy. I told him it's name was Frog Morton.
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Post by tuttle » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:31 am

Jester wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:26 am
Joshoowah wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:50 am
Why can't we just let things die? I say that as a lover of all things Frog Morton.
My son has a frog plush toy. I told him it's name was Frog Morton.
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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by Bloodhound » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:51 am

I always enjoyed the steak sauce smell of the McClelland blends...pop a tin and sniff...but I never tasted anything like it when smoking the blends. I remember reading lots of info on why MC blends had the smell...but most of that info also said there was no hint of it in the smoking of the blends.

I don't think I would like to smoke something that had vinegar as a topping or one that tasted "ketchupy"... :egor:
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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by coco » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:19 am

Del wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:35 pm
...The microbes poop out esters and spicy notes
Google first.

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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by Del » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:03 pm

coco wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:19 am
Del wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:35 pm
...The microbes poop out esters and spicy notes
Google first.

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If only we could all poop spicy notes.... :wink:
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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by FoodMaven » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:00 pm

Even the lightest spray of vinegar would stave off mold and unwanted microorganism growth. I'm thinking enough vinegar to prevent decay, which is why on first opening the tin, the aroma is there. But after coming into contact with fresh air, the minute amount of aromatic particles dissipate quickly and forever. There are several foods/dishes that come to mind about this. I call this ephemeral food (tobacco). It's only there while it's fresh, in the first few minutes. There was a coffeeshop near me, Cafe Roma. Coffee flavor as stout as the will of God. But 5 minutes after brewing/serving, the robustness dissipated.

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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by hugodrax » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:05 pm

FoodMaven wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:00 pm
Even the lightest spray of vinegar would stave off mold and unwanted microorganism growth. I'm thinking enough vinegar to prevent decay, which is why on first opening the tin, the aroma is there. But after coming into contact with fresh air, the minute amount of aromatic particles dissipate quickly and forever. There are several foods/dishes that come to mind about this. I call this ephemeral food (tobacco). It's only there while it's fresh, in the first few minutes. There was a coffeeshop near me, Cafe Roma. Coffee flavor as stout as the will of God. But 5 minutes after brewing/serving, the robustness dissipated.
I've thought the same and they all think I'm nuts.

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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by Joshoowah » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:24 pm

hugodrax wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:05 pm
FoodMaven wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:00 pm
Even the lightest spray of vinegar would stave off mold and unwanted microorganism growth. I'm thinking enough vinegar to prevent decay, which is why on first opening the tin, the aroma is there. But after coming into contact with fresh air, the minute amount of aromatic particles dissipate quickly and forever. There are several foods/dishes that come to mind about this. I call this ephemeral food (tobacco). It's only there while it's fresh, in the first few minutes. There was a coffeeshop near me, Cafe Roma. Coffee flavor as stout as the will of God. But 5 minutes after brewing/serving, the robustness dissipated.
I've thought the same and they all think I'm nuts.

I'm with you.
I thought it was common knowledge that McClelland used vinegar as a casing to produce their signature "ketchup" smell.
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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by durangopipe » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:04 pm

“Del” wrote: The bar was set for this sort of joke when a tin of canned lamb was posted on Tobacco Reviews:
http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend/295 ... ake-sliceso
Joke?
That was a joke?

Well no wonder I could never get it to light!
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Re: My Ephiphany About Frog Morton Tobacco

Post by Hovannes » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:17 pm

FoodMaven wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:00 pm
Even the lightest spray of vinegar would stave off mold and unwanted microorganism growth. I'm thinking enough vinegar to prevent decay, which is why on first opening the tin, the aroma is there. But after coming into contact with fresh air, the minute amount of aromatic particles dissipate quickly and forever. There are several foods/dishes that come to mind about this. I call this ephemeral food (tobacco). It's only there while it's fresh, in the first few minutes. There was a coffeeshop near me, Cafe Roma. Coffee flavor as stout as the will of God. But 5 minutes after brewing/serving, the robustness dissipated.
Whisky flavor never dissipates, unless ice be added.
Which doesn't help us one bit now that Frog Morton has performed the missing man(frog?) formation
Although I've found Squadron Leader pretty close.
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