Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

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Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

Post by Jocose » Tue May 05, 2020 10:02 pm

Rattrays Stirling Flake- close to PIF but no cigar, unfortunately.

My original supply of early 2000's Irish Flake is finally dwindling down. I'll be opening tins of my remaining stock very sparingly from here on out.

I bought some Rattrays Stirling flake several years ago with the hope it would be just like the old Irish Flake.

Sorely disappointed that it isn't.

Stirling Flake is still a decent smoke, it sure seems to be devoid of vitamin N but it is smooth, leathery, earthy and kinda "Plummy" enjoyable for what it is.

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Re: Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

Post by hugodrax » Wed May 06, 2020 6:40 am

That is disappointing. I like Kohlhase und Kopp as a general rule and would have bought with confidence. That let's me know not to bother with their supposed match to Erinmore Flake.
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Re: Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

Post by Jocose » Wed May 27, 2020 12:43 pm

The Rattrays Stirling flake is quickly becoming a favorite.

That is all.
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Re: Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

Post by michigander » Wed May 27, 2020 2:29 pm

I really liked Stirling Flake. I got some from Goose in a box pass a while back.

I thought it was very simlar to the old Irish Flake.

My taste may not be as discriminating as Jocose's. Also, I've probably smoked 6-8 tins of the old Irish Flake, but I suspect Jocose has me beat by quite a bit on that measure.

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Re: Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

Post by Jocose » Wed May 27, 2020 3:16 pm

michigander wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:29 pm
I really liked Stirling Flake. I got some from Goose in a box pass a while back.

I thought it was very simlar to the old Irish Flake.

My taste may not be as discriminating as Jocose's. Also, I've probably smoked 6-8 tins of the old Irish Flake, but I suspect Jocose has me beat by quite a bit on that measure.
So, yeah, SF is close and the more I smoke the more I like it.

Also working through the new Peterson Irish flake along with the Stirling.

The new PIF is lovely as well, very similar in appearance to Stirling, also very sweet compared to both Stirling and the old Irish flake. Very enjoyable.
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Re: Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

Post by michigander » Wed May 27, 2020 3:19 pm

Jocose wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:16 pm
michigander wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:29 pm
I really liked Stirling Flake. I got some from Goose in a box pass a while back.

I thought it was very simlar to the old Irish Flake.

My taste may not be as discriminating as Jocose's. Also, I've probably smoked 6-8 tins of the old Irish Flake, but I suspect Jocose has me beat by quite a bit on that measure.
So, yeah, SF is close and the more I smoke the more I like it.

Also working through the new Peterson Irish flake along with the Stirling.

The new PIF is lovely as well, very similar in appearance to Stirling, also very sweet compared to both Stirling and the old Irish flake. Very enjoyable.
To my taste the Stirling tasted more like the Old Irish flake than the new Irish Flake tasted like old Irish Flake.

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Re: Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

Post by Bloodhound » Wed May 27, 2020 3:20 pm

How is the vitamin N hit...any better than your first assessment?
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Re: Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

Post by Steverino » Wed May 27, 2020 8:45 pm

I haven't smoked any Stirling Flake in a while but smoked two or three tins when it first came out. First thing I thought was, wow, this tastes just like Irish Flake. I don't like the post-2013 Irish Flake as well as the previous version and now i can't remember which one the SF reminded me of. I'll have to get some more SF and try it again.
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Re: Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

Post by ChildOfGod » Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:51 pm

Jocose wrote: This is the ONE thing I hate about our pipe tobacco world. Our old tried and true eventually disappear.
Jo, I can relate. I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately: Losing friends and blends.

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Re: Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

Post by Jocose » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:35 pm

Bloodhound wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:20 pm
How is the vitamin N hit...any better than your first assessment?
A little lighter on the N vs the OG and current PIF.
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Re: Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

Post by Jocose » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:39 pm

Ok, I've smoked 250gr of Stirling flake and 250g of the current Peterson Irish flake.

The Stirling is definitely cased, a good casing at that.

The current PIF is closer to the original in taste and strength, IMHO

Both are delicious and I'm stocking the cellar with both.
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Re: Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

Post by michigander » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:45 pm

michigander wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:19 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:16 pm
michigander wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:29 pm
I really liked Stirling Flake. I got some from Goose in a box pass a while back.

I thought it was very simlar to the old Irish Flake.

My taste may not be as discriminating as Jocose's. Also, I've probably smoked 6-8 tins of the old Irish Flake, but I suspect Jocose has me beat by quite a bit on that measure.
So, yeah, SF is close and the more I smoke the more I like it.

Also working through the new Peterson Irish flake along with the Stirling.

The new PIF is lovely as well, very similar in appearance to Stirling, also very sweet compared to both Stirling and the old Irish flake. Very enjoyable.
To my taste the Stirling tasted more like the Old Irish flake than the new Irish Flake tasted like old Irish Flake.
I am now 4 bowls into a recent purchase of Rattray's Sterling Flake (round tin).

I retract my statement. This doesn’t taste as much like the old Irish Flake as the Square-tin Sterling Flake that I got from Goose in a box pass. It is still a decent smoke, but it is missing that "sandalwood" note that I liked so much in Irish Flake.

I must now return to the new Irish Flake, but my hopes are low as I seem to remember it lacking there as well.

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Re: Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

Post by Jocose » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:36 pm

michigander wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:45 pm
michigander wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:19 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:16 pm
michigander wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:29 pm
I really liked Stirling Flake. I got some from Goose in a box pass a while back.

I thought it was very simlar to the old Irish Flake.

My taste may not be as discriminating as Jocose's. Also, I've probably smoked 6-8 tins of the old Irish Flake, but I suspect Jocose has me beat by quite a bit on that measure.
So, yeah, SF is close and the more I smoke the more I like it.

Also working through the new Peterson Irish flake along with the Stirling.

The new PIF is lovely as well, very similar in appearance to Stirling, also very sweet compared to both Stirling and the old Irish flake. Very enjoyable.
To my taste the Stirling tasted more like the Old Irish flake than the new Irish Flake tasted like old Irish Flake.
I am now 4 bowls into a recent purchase of Rattray's Sterling Flake (round tin).

I retract my statement. This doesn’t taste as much like the old Irish Flake as the Square-tin Sterling Flake that I got from Goose in a box pass. It is still a decent smoke, but it is missing that "sandalwood" note that I liked so much in Irish Flake.

I must now return to the new Irish Flake, but my hopes are low as I seem to remember it lacking there as well.
Yep, forgot to mention The square tins vs the newer round tins of Stirling Flake...

Theres a noticable difference between the 2 regarding Stirling Flake.

I prefer the square tins of Strling.

I prefer the new Peterson Irish flake to the round tins of Stirling.


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Re: Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

Post by Adam Z » Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:44 pm

Now I want to get a tin of Stirling. Haven’t had that one yet.
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Re: Rattrays Stirling Flake VS Irish Flake- close but no cigar

Post by Cleon » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:11 am

Jocose wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:36 pm
michigander wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:45 pm
michigander wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:19 pm
Jocose wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:16 pm
michigander wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:29 pm
I really liked Stirling Flake. I got some from Goose in a box pass a while back.

I thought it was very simlar to the old Irish Flake.

My taste may not be as discriminating as Jocose's. Also, I've probably smoked 6-8 tins of the old Irish Flake, but I suspect Jocose has me beat by quite a bit on that measure.
So, yeah, SF is close and the more I smoke the more I like it.

Also working through the new Peterson Irish flake along with the Stirling.

The new PIF is lovely as well, very similar in appearance to Stirling, also very sweet compared to both Stirling and the old Irish flake. Very enjoyable.
To my taste the Stirling tasted more like the Old Irish flake than the new Irish Flake tasted like old Irish Flake.
I am now 4 bowls into a recent purchase of Rattray's Sterling Flake (round tin).

I retract my statement. This doesn’t taste as much like the old Irish Flake as the Square-tin Sterling Flake that I got from Goose in a box pass. It is still a decent smoke, but it is missing that "sandalwood" note that I liked so much in Irish Flake.

I must now return to the new Irish Flake, but my hopes are low as I seem to remember it lacking there as well.
Yep, forgot to mention The square tins vs the newer round tins of Stirling Flake...

Theres a noticable difference between the 2 regarding Stirling Flake.

I prefer the square tins of Strling.

I prefer the new Peterson Irish flake to the round tins of Stirling.


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