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Re: Science in the News

Post by UncleBob » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:37 am

wosbald wrote:
Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:34 am
+JMJ+

Wut?!? Is this the alternate Science in the News thread?

Alt-Science in the News, mayhap? :wink:
It looks like someone has been editing threads. Did Kerdy hack in?
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Re: Science in the News

Post by wosbald » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:44 am

+JMJ+
UncleBob wrote:
Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:37 am
wosbald wrote:
Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:34 am
Wut?!? Is this the alternate Science in the News thread?

Alt-Science in the News, mayhap? :wink:
It looks like someone has been editing threads. Did Kerdy hack in?
Not AFAIK. Actually, there are two Science in the News threads.

But that's okay. We've got two video game threads, so why not? Double your pleasure. Double your fun.

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Re: Science in the News

Post by UncleBob » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:46 am

wosbald wrote:
Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:44 am
+JMJ+
UncleBob wrote:
Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:37 am
wosbald wrote:
Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:34 am
Wut?!? Is this the alternate Science in the News thread?

Alt-Science in the News, mayhap? :wink:
It looks like someone has been editing threads. Did Kerdy hack in?
Not AFAIK. Actually, there are two Science in the News threads.

But that's okay. We've got two video game threads, so why not? Double your pleasure. Double your fun.
Well, look at that!
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Re: Science in the News

Post by Goose55 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:12 pm

This was slightly alarming when I read it. Scientists say it is 2-1/2 minutes to midnight. They cite Pakistan and India having nuclear arms as one of the main concerns....

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/doomsday-cloc ... ories.html

I sure am glad the angels described in the Book of Revelation are holding back the winds of strife. But I read at some point they are commanded to let go. :prayin:
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Re: Science in the News

Post by Sir Moose » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:27 pm

Goose55 wrote:
Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:12 pm
This was slightly alarming when I read it. Scientists say it is 2-1/2 minutes to midnight. They cite Pakistan and India having nuclear arms as one of the main concerns....

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/doomsday-cloc ... ories.html
I might care more about this if it wasn't just a political statement on the threat man poses to man.
I sure am glad the angels described in the Book of Revelation are holding back the winds of strife. But I read at some point they are commanded to let go. :prayin:
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Re: Science in the News

Post by Goose55 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:34 pm

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/doomsday-cloc ... ories.html

The article also spoke of how the scientists view the election of Trump as U.S president, as hastening "dooms day."

Trump will not concede there is human cause climate change, and--according to the article--has made comments about the possibility of expanding the U.S. nuclear arsenal.
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Re: Science in the News

Post by infidel » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:11 am

2-million-year-old supernova activity discovered in Earth’s microfossil record
Massive stars, which terminate their evolution in a cataclysmic explosion called a type-II supernova, are the nuclear engines of galactic nucleosynthesis. Among the elemental species known to be produced in these stars, the radioisotope 60Fe stands out: This radioisotope has no natural, terrestrial production mechanisms; thus, a detection of 60Fe atoms within terrestrial reservoirs is proof for the direct deposition of supernova material within our solar system. We report, in this work, the direct detection of live 60Fe atoms in biologically produced nanocrystals of magnetite, which we selectively extracted from two Pacific Ocean sediment cores. We find that the arrival of supernova material on Earth coincides with the lower Pleistocene boundary (2.7 Ma) and that it terminates around 1.7 Ma.
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Re: Science in the News

Post by UncleBob » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:17 am

infidel wrote:
Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:11 am
2-million-year-old supernova activity discovered in Earth’s microfossil record
Massive stars, which terminate their evolution in a cataclysmic explosion called a type-II supernova, are the nuclear engines of galactic nucleosynthesis. Among the elemental species known to be produced in these stars, the radioisotope 60Fe stands out: This radioisotope has no natural, terrestrial production mechanisms; thus, a detection of 60Fe atoms within terrestrial reservoirs is proof for the direct deposition of supernova material within our solar system. We report, in this work, the direct detection of live 60Fe atoms in biologically produced nanocrystals of magnetite, which we selectively extracted from two Pacific Ocean sediment cores. We find that the arrival of supernova material on Earth coincides with the lower Pleistocene boundary (2.7 Ma) and that it terminates around 1.7 Ma.
That is cool.
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Re: Science in the News

Post by Cleon » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:23 am

Earth makes its own water deep within the mantle
According to new computer simulations, chemical reactions taking place in Earth's upper mantle – which lies directly under the planet's crust – could produce water from scratch under the right (read: extreme) conditions.

"This is one way water can form on Earth," physicist John Tse from the University of Saskatchewan in Canada told New Scientist.
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Re: Science in the News

Post by Cleon » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:25 am

Success! Scientists Transform Hydrogen to Metal; Could Revolutionize Spaceflight, Computers
According to The Independent, the scientists from Harvard University, have succeeded in creating a tiny amount of what is possibly the rarest and most valuable metal so far.

In their study, published in Science journal, metallic hydrogen can create super-fast computers and even high-speed levitating trains, ultra-efficient vehicles, and basically improve anything with electricity. It even has surprising impacts in the field of astronomy.
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Re: Science in the News

Post by Rusty » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:10 am

Cleon wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:25 am
Success! Scientists Transform Hydrogen to Metal; Could Revolutionize Spaceflight, Computers
According to The Independent, the scientists from Harvard University, have succeeded in creating a tiny amount of what is possibly the rarest and most valuable metal so far.

In their study, published in Science journal, metallic hydrogen can create super-fast computers and even high-speed levitating trains, ultra-efficient vehicles, and basically improve anything with electricity. It even has surprising impacts in the field of astronomy.
Cleon if this was a real discovery then you could have put it in the real Science in the News Thread. This is the pseudo-science and outrageous claims thread. Different animal.

Well.... wait a sec... maybe you put it in the right place after all?

Nature: Physicists doubt bold report of metallic hydrogen

BTW this isn't first time some group has made this claim. This is one of the "holy grails" of condensed matter physics. This claim started last October and there is no new convincing evidence since then.
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Re: Science in the News

Post by Cleon » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:48 pm

Rusty wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:10 am
Cleon wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:25 am
Success! Scientists Transform Hydrogen to Metal; Could Revolutionize Spaceflight, Computers
According to The Independent, the scientists from Harvard University, have succeeded in creating a tiny amount of what is possibly the rarest and most valuable metal so far.

In their study, published in Science journal, metallic hydrogen can create super-fast computers and even high-speed levitating trains, ultra-efficient vehicles, and basically improve anything with electricity. It even has surprising impacts in the field of astronomy.
Cleon if this was a real discovery then you could have put it in the real Science in the News Thread. This is the pseudo-science and outrageous claims thread. Different animal.

Well.... wait a sec... maybe you put it in the right place after all?

Nature: Physicists doubt bold report of metallic hydrogen

BTW this isn't first time some group has made this claim. This is one of the "holy grails" of condensed matter physics. This claim started last October and there is no new convincing evidence since then.
D'oh. Yes, I read up on it some more. It looks like they're lone rangers out there at Harvard.
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Re: Science in the News

Post by infidel » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:33 pm

This is amazing:

From rocks in Colorado, evidence of a ‘chaotic solar system’
“The impact of astronomical cycles on climate can be quite large,” explains Meyers, noting as an example the pacing of the Earth’s ice ages, which have been reliably matched to periodic changes in the shape of Earth’s orbit, and the tilt of our planet on its axis. “Astronomical theory permits a very detailed evaluation of past climate events that may provide an analog for future climate.”

...

Using evidence from alternating layers of limestone and shale laid down over millions of years in a shallow North American seaway at the time dinosaurs held sway on Earth, the team led by UW–Madison Professor of Geoscience Stephen Meyers and Northwestern University Professor of Earth and Planetary Sciences Brad Sageman discovered the 87 million-year-old signature of a “resonance transition” between Mars and Earth.

...

“Other studies have suggested the presence of chaos based on geologic data,” says Meyers. “But this is the first unambiguous evidence, made possible by the availability of high-quality, radioisotopic dates and the strong astronomical signal preserved in the rocks.”
Hey tuttle, stuff that up yer paradigm :P
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Re: Science in the News

Post by Jester » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:04 pm

infidel wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:33 pm
This is amazing:

From rocks in Colorado, evidence of a ‘chaotic solar system’
“The impact of astronomical cycles on climate can be quite large,” explains Meyers, noting as an example the pacing of the Earth’s ice ages, which have been reliably matched to periodic changes in the shape of Earth’s orbit, and the tilt of our planet on its axis. “Astronomical theory permits a very detailed evaluation of past climate events that may provide an analog for future climate.”

...

Using evidence from alternating layers of limestone and shale laid down over millions of years in a shallow North American seaway at the time dinosaurs held sway on Earth, the team led by UW–Madison Professor of Geoscience Stephen Meyers and Northwestern University Professor of Earth and Planetary Sciences Brad Sageman discovered the 87 million-year-old signature of a “resonance transition” between Mars and Earth.

...

“Other studies have suggested the presence of chaos based on geologic data,” says Meyers. “But this is the first unambiguous evidence, made possible by the availability of high-quality, radioisotopic dates and the strong astronomical signal preserved in the rocks.”
Hey tuttle, stuff that up yer paradigm :P
I bet looking at that same evidence from a different paradigm would support young-earth science. :wink:
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Re: Science in the News

Post by infidel » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:18 pm

Jester wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:04 pm
infidel wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:33 pm
This is amazing:

From rocks in Colorado, evidence of a ‘chaotic solar system’
“The impact of astronomical cycles on climate can be quite large,” explains Meyers, noting as an example the pacing of the Earth’s ice ages, which have been reliably matched to periodic changes in the shape of Earth’s orbit, and the tilt of our planet on its axis. “Astronomical theory permits a very detailed evaluation of past climate events that may provide an analog for future climate.”

...

Using evidence from alternating layers of limestone and shale laid down over millions of years in a shallow North American seaway at the time dinosaurs held sway on Earth, the team led by UW–Madison Professor of Geoscience Stephen Meyers and Northwestern University Professor of Earth and Planetary Sciences Brad Sageman discovered the 87 million-year-old signature of a “resonance transition” between Mars and Earth.

...

“Other studies have suggested the presence of chaos based on geologic data,” says Meyers. “But this is the first unambiguous evidence, made possible by the availability of high-quality, radioisotopic dates and the strong astronomical signal preserved in the rocks.”
Hey tuttle, stuff that up yer paradigm :P
I bet looking at that same evidence from a different paradigm would support young-earth science. :wink:
I'll give you a head start:

A) Radioisotope dating is inaccurate and/or presumes the rates of decay have not changed and/or are more evidence of the appearance of age that God baked into the Earth.
B) This "signature" of a resonance transition between Earth and Mars is only interpreted to be so because of the dominant paradigm's assumptions, it could just as likely have been caused by Satan falling to Earth like a bolt of lightning.
C) There must have been some undiscovered mechanism that put down these alternating layers in a short span of time during/after The FloodTM
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Re: Science in the News

Post by Jester » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:41 pm

infidel wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:18 pm
Jester wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:04 pm
infidel wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:33 pm
This is amazing:

From rocks in Colorado, evidence of a ‘chaotic solar system’
“The impact of astronomical cycles on climate can be quite large,” explains Meyers, noting as an example the pacing of the Earth’s ice ages, which have been reliably matched to periodic changes in the shape of Earth’s orbit, and the tilt of our planet on its axis. “Astronomical theory permits a very detailed evaluation of past climate events that may provide an analog for future climate.”

...

Using evidence from alternating layers of limestone and shale laid down over millions of years in a shallow North American seaway at the time dinosaurs held sway on Earth, the team led by UW–Madison Professor of Geoscience Stephen Meyers and Northwestern University Professor of Earth and Planetary Sciences Brad Sageman discovered the 87 million-year-old signature of a “resonance transition” between Mars and Earth.

...

“Other studies have suggested the presence of chaos based on geologic data,” says Meyers. “But this is the first unambiguous evidence, made possible by the availability of high-quality, radioisotopic dates and the strong astronomical signal preserved in the rocks.”
Hey tuttle, stuff that up yer paradigm :P
I bet looking at that same evidence from a different paradigm would support young-earth science. :wink:
I'll give you a head start:

A) Radioisotope dating is inaccurate and/or presumes the rates of decay have not changed and/or are more evidence of the appearance of age that God baked into the Earth.
B) This "signature" of a resonance transition between Earth and Mars is only interpreted to be so because of the dominant paradigm's assumptions, it could just as likely have been caused by Satan falling to Earth like a bolt of lightning.
C) There must have been some undiscovered mechanism that put down these alternating layers in a short span of time during/after The FloodTM
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Re: Science in the News

Post by UncleBob » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:38 am

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Re: Science in the News

Post by hugodrax » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:20 am

Washington Post, eh? I'm watching you, Bob.
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Re: Science in the News

Post by UncleBob » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:23 am

hugodrax wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:20 am
Washington Post, eh? I'm watching you, Bob.
On a side note, did you see the article about the Jewish-graveyard vandalism? I was wondering if you saw any bias in that article.
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Re: Science in the News

Post by hugodrax » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:48 am

UncleBob wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:23 am
hugodrax wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:20 am
Washington Post, eh? I'm watching you, Bob.
On a side note, did you see the article about the Jewish-graveyard vandalism? I was wondering if you saw any bias in that article.
Oh, no, Bob. It's a perfectly normal title and article. I think of nothing more, when I think of Muslims, than their friendly way of helping Jews in need. In this world, filled with Catholics only too eager to control this country from Rome, it must be comforting for a jew to know they can trust a Muslim.

Next week, the Post will write about the wonderful collaborative efforts to further women's and gay rights on behalf of local Muslim community members.
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