Okay... read the Shroud article. I had heard of the "trauma and torture" markers in the blood before. I'm not sure what is new about this. Just more confirmation, I guess. Glad to see it.hugodrax wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:23 amOh, I thought you'd actually read the articles from Crux. Your posts make more sense now that you admit that you haven't. It's on that site. You know, Catholic news and all. Surprised Wosbald missed it, too, frankly.Del wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:08 amWhere am I supposed to go to find this article? I see no link here.hugodrax wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:03 amDid you read the article about it? Or just the political stuff?
I did not follow any of the links to the political stuff, either. It is clear that they do not understand American Christians, and they aren't grinding their axes on me.
And I read John Allen's article. He is... um, interesting.... as a writer. He threads the line between partisan National Catholic Reporter and authentic Catholic journalist. Father Z respects John Allen, which gives Allen a bit of traditionalist credibility.
I am going to a seminar by Fr. Z today. It is supposed to be about 10 years of Summorum Pontifium, but Fr. Z spent many years in Rome and he stays in close contact. He knows the minds of those guys. We might get him to talk about bit about how the Romans in the curia see American Catholics.
I shall report later.
Meanwhile, I concur with the conclusion of this article in Crux:
Spadaro and Figueroa’s theological assessment of the “ecumenism of hate” does not bear scrutiny. Their charges will dissipate quickly enough for lack of substantive argument.
Why is the no substantive argument?
All that would certainly be alarming. But is it happening? Who are “those who profess to be Catholic” who “dream of a theocratic type of state”? What journals expound their thoughts? In what faculties do they teach? What books have they written? What movements does their thought animate?Sporado & Figueroa wrote:However, the most dangerous prospect for this strange ecumenism is attributable to its xenophobic and Islamophobic vision that wants walls and purifying deportations. The word ‘ecumenism’ transforms into a paradox, into an ‘ecumenism of hate.’ Intolerance is a celestial mark of purism. Reductionism is the exegetical methodology. Ultraliteralism is its hermeneutical key.”
None of that exists.