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Holy Land Coordination Bishops release final statement after visit to local Christians
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STATEMENT — From January 11 to 16, 2020, the bishops of the Holy Land Coordination an carried out its annual visit to local Christians in Gaza, East Jerusalem and Ramallah. At the end of the visit, the bishops drafted a statement in which they express concerns and hopes, urge governments to take responsibility for enforcing international law and protect human dignity and invite Christian faithful from all over the world to pray for this reality.

Holy Land Coordination 2020

We must not ignore the voice of people in the Holy Land

Every year we come to encounter and hear the people of the Holy Land. We are inspired by their enduring resilience and faith in a worsening situation.

In their recent powerful message, the local Catholic Bishops lamented the international community’s failure to help realise justice and peace here in the place of Christ’s birth.[1] Our governments must do more to meet their responsibilities for upholding international law and protecting human dignity. In some cases they have become actively complicit in the evils of conflict and occupation.

The local Bishops also warned that people are facing further “evaporation of hope for a durable solution”. We have witnessed this reality first-hand, particularly how construction of settlements and the separation wall is destroying any prospect of two states existing in peace.

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We encourage Christians in our own countries to pray for and support this mission. The increase in people making pilgrimages to the Holy Land is encouraging and we call for those who come to ensure they encounter the local communities.

At the same time we implore our governments to help build a new political solution rooted in human dignity for all. While this must ultimately be shaped by the peoples of the Holy Land in dialogue, there is an urgent need for our countries to play their part by:
  • Insisting upon the application of international law.
  • Following the Holy See’s lead in recognising the State of Palestine.
  • Addressing the security concerns of Israel and the right of all to live in safety.
  • Rejecting political or economic support for settlements.
  • And resolutely opposing acts of violence or abuses of human rights by any side.
In taking these steps the international community can meaningfully stand in solidarity with those Israelis and Palestinians who are refusing to give up their non-violent struggle for justice, peace and human rights.

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"[T]he emergency of irregular migration has to be met with justice, solidarity and mercy. Forms of collective expulsion, which do not allow for the suitable treatment of individual cases, are unacceptable."
— Pope Francis, Morocco

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Pope’s point man on migrants — made a cardinal in October — takes over titular parish
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Cardinal Michael Czerny arriving to St. Michael the Archangel Parish in Pietralata, in the outskirts of Rome. (Credit: La Machi Communication for Good Causes)

ROME — Canadian Jesuit Michael Czerny, made a cardinal by Pope Francis last October, became the titular pastor of a parish in the outskirts of Rome on Sunday.

During his homily, he spoke to the thousands gathered — many of whom were migrants — about his own family fleeing war and finding refuge in North America.

“My family of four fled from post-war Czechoslovakia,” Czerny said. “We arrived in Canada by ship in the year 1948. This life experience of ours was immortalized in advance in the Flight into Egypt painted on glass by my maternal grandmother, Anna Hayek Löw.”

Long after his grandmother created that work of art, the life experience has continued to shape Czerny’s ministry and work, to the point that his new coat of arms depicts a boat with a family of four.

This image, he said, represents his family and also “many refugees and migrants who now travel by boat. The boat is also a traditional image of the Church as the Boat of Peter, which has the mandate of Our Lord to ‘receive the stranger’.”

Furthermore, Czerny continued, the boat serves as a reminder of the works of mercy towards all those who are excluded, forgotten or disadvantaged.

The cardinal’s words came during his homily as he was installed as the titular pastor of St. Michael the Archangel Parish in Pietralata, on the outskirts of Rome. The neighborhood, some 40 minutes by train from St. Peter’s Basilica, is home to thousands of migrants who have arrived at the Eternal City looking for better opportunities.

[…]

During his homily on Sunday, Czerny quoted a letter the pope penned for the 13 new cardinals created in 2019, in which he wrote: “This new stage in your life may enable you to imitate Jesus more closely and increase your capacity for compassion for all those men and women who, victimized and enslaved by so many evils, look with hope for a gesture of tender love on the part of those who believe in the Lord.”

“I hope to live out this mission also among you here at St. Michael the Archangel Parish,” Czerny said.

Explaining his choice for a pectoral cross, often made with precious metals but in his case, with the wood recovered from a ship that carried African migrants across the Mediterranean, the cardinal told the faithful that the wood “reminds us of the cross on which Jesus, the Son of God, was crucified to take away the sins of the world. The nail struck clearly reminds us that Jesus was nailed to the cross.”

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Cardinal Michael Czerny's pectoral cross.

“The poor wood suggests the Jesuit vow of poverty and the desire for a humble and committed Church,” Czerny continued. “The origin of wood reflects my family’s escape and my current responsibilities in the Migrants and Refugees Section. The cracks in the red paint and in the wood remind us of the wounds, the suffering, the bloodshed in the crucifixion of Christ, who renews himself whenever the world forgets compassion and justice. The lighter color — at the top — indicates the resurrection of our Lord and Savior and the fullness of life that He has come to bring.”

Father Gianmarco Merlo, the parish priest, welcomed the cardinal saying that the appointment was a “sign for us of Pope Francis’s continuing attention to this parish that he visited 5 years ago.”

“It is also a gift of the Holy Spirit who ‘descends and remains’ with us to prompt our fraternal communion and attention to the special needs of the universal Church that our cardinal’s ecclesial duties represent so well,” the priest said.

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New book seeks to show Father James Martin ‘as a person’ to his critics
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Pope Francis smiles during a private meeting with Jesuit Father James Martin, author and editor at large of America magazine, at the Vatican Oct. 1, 2019. (Credit: CNS)

NEW YORK — Jesuit Father James Martin is arguably America’s most well-known priest. In recent years, he’s made headlines for his outreach to the LGBT community, but his ministry dates back several decades to when he first introduced thousands of readers to holy men and women in his book My Life with the Saints.

In his new book, James Martin, S.J.: In the Company of Jesus, religion scholar Jon Sweeney explores why Martin has become one of the country’s most in demand, and for some, divisive priests.

Crux spoke with Sweeney ahead of the book’s launch in New York next month.

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Crux: Speaking of his celebrity status in Catholic circles, what’s your own takeaway as to why his ministry has become so well known?

Sweeney: I think that Jim shares a quality with Thomas Merton, one of his heroes: he’s an idealist who wants to do God’s will. I’ve learned from experience with other famous Catholic writers and leaders in the Church that, ironically, this upsets some religious people. With his genuine idealism, Jim is willing to step in front of the cameras, when he’s called to do so, and when he does, he’s really skilled at it, and does well. This also upsets people. Jim is also willing and anxious to speak out for the marginalized, even if it means he will be accused of things. But he knows he is faithful. A real man of prayer and spiritual direction, Jim knows where he stands. That also bothers people. For these reasons I think he sets on fire the hair of some people, but then he is adored by many, many more.

He’s also divisive — as we’ve seen with his ministry to LGBT Catholics. How did you deal with such controversies in your research in the book itself?

I followed Jim around a bit, both in person (I write from one such experience, at LA Congress 2019, in the last chapter of the book), and online, which is quite easy to do. I watched hundreds of videos posted by Jim’s friends and enemies. I also interviewed lots of people. I tried to tell the whole story of the controversial quality in Jim, and about his work (which I’m clearly a fan of, as the reader will see) in trying to bridge the gap between LGBT people and the Catholic Church.

What do you want his critics to take away from the book?

I want them to see Jim as a person. Too often, they see only what they think is his agenda. I want them to see the person. Frankly, I want all of us, on either or every side of issues that divide us in the Church, to see each other as people. We don’t do that well!

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New book seeks to show Father James Martin ‘as a person’ to his critics
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Pope Francis smiles during a private meeting with Jesuit Father James Martin, author and editor at large of America magazine, at the Vatican Oct. 1, 2019. (Credit: CNS)

NEW YORK — Jesuit Father James Martin is arguably America’s most well-known priest. In recent years, he’s made headlines for his outreach to the LGBT community, but his ministry dates back several decades to when he first introduced thousands of readers to holy men and women in his book My Life with the Saints.

In his new book, James Martin, S.J.: In the Company of Jesus, religion scholar Jon Sweeney explores why Martin has become one of the country’s most in demand, and for some, divisive priests.

Crux spoke with Sweeney ahead of the book’s launch in New York next month.

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[…]

Crux: Speaking of his celebrity status in Catholic circles, what’s your own takeaway as to why his ministry has become so well known?

Sweeney: I think that Jim shares a quality with Thomas Merton, one of his heroes: he’s an idealist who wants to do God’s will. I’ve learned from experience with other famous Catholic writers and leaders in the Church that, ironically, this upsets some religious people. With his genuine idealism, Jim is willing to step in front of the cameras, when he’s called to do so, and when he does, he’s really skilled at it, and does well. This also upsets people. Jim is also willing and anxious to speak out for the marginalized, even if it means he will be accused of things. But he knows he is faithful. A real man of prayer and spiritual direction, Jim knows where he stands. That also bothers people. For these reasons I think he sets on fire the hair of some people, but then he is adored by many, many more.

He’s also divisive — as we’ve seen with his ministry to LGBT Catholics. How did you deal with such controversies in your research in the book itself?

I followed Jim around a bit, both in person (I write from one such experience, at LA Congress 2019, in the last chapter of the book), and online, which is quite easy to do. I watched hundreds of videos posted by Jim’s friends and enemies. I also interviewed lots of people. I tried to tell the whole story of the controversial quality in Jim, and about his work (which I’m clearly a fan of, as the reader will see) in trying to bridge the gap between LGBT people and the Catholic Church.

What do you want his critics to take away from the book?

I want them to see Jim as a person. Too often, they see only what they think is his agenda. I want them to see the person. Frankly, I want all of us, on either or every side of issues that divide us in the Church, to see each other as people. We don’t do that well!

[…]
We already knew Fr. Martin was a person, thanks.

As far as living priests go, he is hardly as "well-known" as Bishop Robert Barron or Father Mitch Pacwa. They are pastors to the people.

Fr. Martin only matters to Catholics on the far-right and far-left fringes. My wife has never heard of him. She listens to Catholic talk radio, every day.
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Wow. Somebody must be ticked at him. Cleveland, then Philadelphia? :D
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I'm starting to get the impression that being Catholic means accepting a liberal dogma of American immigration policy, and nothing else.
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I'm starting to get the impression that being Catholic means accepting a liberal dogma of American immigration policy, and nothing else.
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Priest, staff helping migrants in Guatemala receive death threats [In-Depth]
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Scalabrinian Father Mauro Verzeletti pictured Jan. 12, 2020, at San Antonio Parish in Soyapango, El Salvador, discusses the worries he has over the treatment of migrants headed toward the U.S. in the latest caravan that formed in mid-January. A few days later, Verzeletti, director of the Casa del Migrante shelter in Guatemala, received death threats for his work providing migrants with humanitarian aid and is under round-the-clock protection as authorities and others worry about his safety. (Credit: CNS photo/Rhina Guidos)

WASHINGTON, D.C. — A Catholic priest helping feed and shelter migrants in Central America has filed a complaint with Guatemalan authorities after he and his staff received death threats for providing humanitarian aid for the latest mass of migrants headed toward the United States.

Father Mauro Verzeletti told Catholic News Service Jan. 23 via WhatsApp audio that he’s under 24-hour protection issued by Guatemalan authorities after receiving threats in mid-January.

Verzeletti has been a vociferous critic of U.S. immigration policy involving Central America, including with Guatemala’s former president Jimmy Morales, who struck a deal with U.S. President Donald Trump to designate Guatemala a “safe third country,” meaning that migrants who pass through Guatemala headed north must first seek asylum there instead of heading to the U.S.

It is a deal that newly minted Guatemalan President Alejandro Giammattei, who took office Jan. 14, opposes.

[…]

Verzeletti, who is originally from Brazil, belongs to the religious order known as the Scalabrinians, whose charism is to help migrants. He runs shelters throughout Latin America and has called attention to the immigration crisis through the lens of the Catholic Church, which calls for taking a humanitarian approach and treating the root causes of immigration as a solution.

He also has criticized agreements that Trump has made with the government of Mexico called the Migrant Protection Protocols, or the “Remain in Mexico” policy, and the recent use of force against migrants by Mexican forces seeking to deter those trying to cross the border between Guatemala and Mexico.

In El Salvador, where he lives part of the time, he has organized a “Migrant Via Crucis” during Lent, weaving themes of the situation experienced by Central American migrants into the Stations of the Cross and what many migrants suffer on their way to the U.S.

Through his writings and other commentary, he often calls out governments for their lack of commitment to provide living conditions for the poor and has shed light on attacks — physical, political and policy-related — directed at migrants.

Representatives from international aid organizations denounced the threats against the priest, including Carlos Carrera Cordon, head of Guatemala’s UNICEF, who expressed his support for the priest and the work of his staff via Twitter. Carrera said his organization “energetically” condemns the threats and praised the priest and his staff for caring “day and night” for children and families who are migrating.

Verzeletti also runs other Casa del Migrante shelters in Central America, helping not just those headed north but also people displaced within their own countries and protecting those who have received threats of violence from gangs or other criminal factions.

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Priest, staff helping migrants in Guatemala receive death threats [In-Depth]
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Scalabrinian Father Mauro Verzeletti pictured Jan. 12, 2020, at San Antonio Parish in Soyapango, El Salvador, discusses the worries he has over the treatment of migrants headed toward the U.S. in the latest caravan that formed in mid-January. A few days later, Verzeletti, director of the Casa del Migrante shelter in Guatemala, received death threats for his work providing migrants with humanitarian aid and is under round-the-clock protection as authorities and others worry about his safety. (Credit: CNS photo/Rhina Guidos)

WASHINGTON, D.C. — A Catholic priest helping feed and shelter migrants in Central America has filed a complaint with Guatemalan authorities after he and his staff received death threats for providing humanitarian aid for the latest mass of migrants headed toward the United States.

Father Mauro Verzeletti told Catholic News Service Jan. 23 via WhatsApp audio that he’s under 24-hour protection issued by Guatemalan authorities after receiving threats in mid-January.

Verzeletti has been a vociferous critic of U.S. immigration policy involving Central America, including with Guatemala’s former president Jimmy Morales, who struck a deal with U.S. President Donald Trump to designate Guatemala a “safe third country,” meaning that migrants who pass through Guatemala headed north must first seek asylum there instead of heading to the U.S.

It is a deal that newly minted Guatemalan President Alejandro Giammattei, who took office Jan. 14, opposes.

[…]

Verzeletti, who is originally from Brazil, belongs to the religious order known as the Scalabrinians, whose charism is to help migrants. He runs shelters throughout Latin America and has called attention to the immigration crisis through the lens of the Catholic Church, which calls for taking a humanitarian approach and treating the root causes of immigration as a solution.

He also has criticized agreements that Trump has made with the government of Mexico called the Migrant Protection Protocols, or the “Remain in Mexico” policy, and the recent use of force against migrants by Mexican forces seeking to deter those trying to cross the border between Guatemala and Mexico.

In El Salvador, where he lives part of the time, he has organized a “Migrant Via Crucis” during Lent, weaving themes of the situation experienced by Central American migrants into the Stations of the Cross and what many migrants suffer on their way to the U.S.

Through his writings and other commentary, he often calls out governments for their lack of commitment to provide living conditions for the poor and has shed light on attacks — physical, political and policy-related — directed at migrants.

Representatives from international aid organizations denounced the threats against the priest, including Carlos Carrera Cordon, head of Guatemala’s UNICEF, who expressed his support for the priest and the work of his staff via Twitter. Carrera said his organization “energetically” condemns the threats and praised the priest and his staff for caring “day and night” for children and families who are migrating.

Verzeletti also runs other Casa del Migrante shelters in Central America, helping not just those headed north but also people displaced within their own countries and protecting those who have received threats of violence from gangs or other criminal factions.

[…]
How do these shelters protect migrants against gangs and other criminal factions?
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Post by hugodrax » Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:39 am

Hovannes wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:52 am
wosbald wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:18 am
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Priest, staff helping migrants in Guatemala receive death threats [In-Depth]
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Scalabrinian Father Mauro Verzeletti pictured Jan. 12, 2020, at San Antonio Parish in Soyapango, El Salvador, discusses the worries he has over the treatment of migrants headed toward the U.S. in the latest caravan that formed in mid-January. A few days later, Verzeletti, director of the Casa del Migrante shelter in Guatemala, received death threats for his work providing migrants with humanitarian aid and is under round-the-clock protection as authorities and others worry about his safety. (Credit: CNS photo/Rhina Guidos)

WASHINGTON, D.C. — A Catholic priest helping feed and shelter migrants in Central America has filed a complaint with Guatemalan authorities after he and his staff received death threats for providing humanitarian aid for the latest mass of migrants headed toward the United States.

Father Mauro Verzeletti told Catholic News Service Jan. 23 via WhatsApp audio that he’s under 24-hour protection issued by Guatemalan authorities after receiving threats in mid-January.

Verzeletti has been a vociferous critic of U.S. immigration policy involving Central America, including with Guatemala’s former president Jimmy Morales, who struck a deal with U.S. President Donald Trump to designate Guatemala a “safe third country,” meaning that migrants who pass through Guatemala headed north must first seek asylum there instead of heading to the U.S.

It is a deal that newly minted Guatemalan President Alejandro Giammattei, who took office Jan. 14, opposes.

[…]

Verzeletti, who is originally from Brazil, belongs to the religious order known as the Scalabrinians, whose charism is to help migrants. He runs shelters throughout Latin America and has called attention to the immigration crisis through the lens of the Catholic Church, which calls for taking a humanitarian approach and treating the root causes of immigration as a solution.

He also has criticized agreements that Trump has made with the government of Mexico called the Migrant Protection Protocols, or the “Remain in Mexico” policy, and the recent use of force against migrants by Mexican forces seeking to deter those trying to cross the border between Guatemala and Mexico.

In El Salvador, where he lives part of the time, he has organized a “Migrant Via Crucis” during Lent, weaving themes of the situation experienced by Central American migrants into the Stations of the Cross and what many migrants suffer on their way to the U.S.

Through his writings and other commentary, he often calls out governments for their lack of commitment to provide living conditions for the poor and has shed light on attacks — physical, political and policy-related — directed at migrants.

Representatives from international aid organizations denounced the threats against the priest, including Carlos Carrera Cordon, head of Guatemala’s UNICEF, who expressed his support for the priest and the work of his staff via Twitter. Carrera said his organization “energetically” condemns the threats and praised the priest and his staff for caring “day and night” for children and families who are migrating.

Verzeletti also runs other Casa del Migrante shelters in Central America, helping not just those headed north but also people displaced within their own countries and protecting those who have received threats of violence from gangs or other criminal factions.

[…]
How do these shelters protect migrants against gangs and other criminal factions?
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Post by Hovannes » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:17 pm

The USA isn't the only institution that can't absorb having an unchecked migrant population storm it's borders
https://cruxnow.com/church-in-the-ameri ... n-bishops/

Guatemalan bishops apparently in do as I say, not as I do frame of mind.
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Post by wosbald » Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:36 am

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Catholic Ordinaries of Holy Land react to “Peace to Prosperity” plan, invite world Christian Churches to pray
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Statement on the “Peace-to-Prosperity” Plan

The Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, for decades, is at the center of many peace initiatives and proposals for solution.

As said many times in the past, we think that no proposal and no serious perspective could be reached without the agreement of the two peoples, Israelis and Palestinians. These proposals have to be based on equal rights and dignity.

The plan “Peace-to-Prosperity” presented yesterday does not contain these conditions. It does not give dignity and rights to the Palestinians. It is to be considered a unilateral initiative, since it endorses almost all the demands of one side, the Israeli one, and its political agenda. On the other hand, this plan does not really take into considerations the just demands of the Palestinian people for their homeland, their rights and dignified life.

This plan will bring no solution but rather will create more tensions and probably more violence and bloodshed.

We expect that the previous agreements signed between the two parties be respected and improved upon the basis of complete human equality among peoples.

We invite all world Christian Churches to pray for the Holy Land, to work towards justice and peace and to be the voice of the voiceless.

“And a harvest of righteousness is sown in peace for those who make peace.” (James 3, 18)

Jerusalem, January 29, 2020

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Post by Hovannes » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:38 pm

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What is the difference between the unsafe and unsanitary living conditions N of the Border and S of the Border?
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Re: THE CATHOLIC THREAD

Post by wosbald » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:09 am

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Pastor apologizes for words ‘hurtful to Muslims’ in homily on immigration
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Father Nick VanDenBroeke, pastor of Immaculate Conception in Lonsdale, Minn., is pictured in an undated photo. (Credit: Dave Hrbacek/The Catholic Spirit via CNS)

ST. PAUL, Minnesota — A Minnesota pastor has apologized after remarks he made about Muslim immigration and Islam being “the greatest threat in the world” sparked controversy.

“My homily on immigration contained words that were hurtful to Muslims. I’m sorry for this,” said Father Nick VanDenBroeke, pastor of Immaculate Conception in Lonsdale, which is south of the Twin Cities, in the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis.

“I realize now that my comments were not fully reflective of the Catholic Church’s teaching on Islam,” he said in a Jan. 29 statement.

In a homily VanDenBroeke gave Jan. 5, the feast of the Epiphany and, in Minnesota, Immigration Sunday, he acknowledged the complexity of immigration as a political issue and that the Bible challenges Catholics to “welcome strangers.”

[…]

Then he said that immigrants’ religion and worldview should be taken into consideration when the country decides whom to admit.

“Both as Americans and as Christians, we do not need to pretend that everyone who seeks to enter America should be treated the same,” he said. “I believe it’s essential to consider the religion and worldview of the immigrants and refugees. More specifically, we should not be allowing large numbers of Muslims asylum or immigration into our country. Islam is the greatest threat in the world, both to Christianity and to America.”

He continued: “Of course there are peaceful Muslims, absolutely, but the religion as a religion, and an ideology and a worldview, it is contrary to Christ and to America.”

“I am not saying we hate Muslims. I am absolutely not saying that. They are people created out of love by God just as each one of us is. But while we certainly do not hate them as people, we must oppose their religion and worldview,” the priest said. “And if we want to protect our great country not only as a Christian nation, but also as the land of the free, then we must oppose the immigration of Muslims. That’s an example of keeping bad ideas out of the country that we have the right to do as a sovereign nation.”

A recording of the homily was posted on Immaculate Conception’s website. It drew the attention of City Pages, the Twin Cities’ alternative newsweekly, which posted a story to its website Jan. 29. The Minnesota chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations called for the Minnesota Catholic Conference to repudiate his comments.

In a Jan. 29 statement, Archbishop Bernard A. Hebda of St. Paul and Minneapolis said he spoke with VanDenBroeke about the homily “and he has expressed sorrow for his words and an openness to seeing more clearly the Church’s position on our relationship with Islam.”

“The teaching of the Catholic Church is clear,” Hebda said, pointing to several sources. “As Pope Benedict XVI noted, ‘The Catholic Church, in fidelity to the teachings of the Second Vatican Council, looks with esteem to Muslims, who worship God above all by prayer, almsgiving and fasting, revere Jesus as a prophet while not acknowledging his divinity, and honor Mary, his Virgin Mother.’ He called upon the Church to persist in esteem for Muslims, who ‘worship God who is one, living and subsistent; merciful and almighty, the creator of heaven and earth, who has also spoken to humanity.'”

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Re: THE CATHOLIC THREAD

Post by Del » Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:48 am

wosbald wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:09 am
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Pastor apologizes for words ‘hurtful to Muslims’ in homily on immigration
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Father Nick VanDenBroeke, pastor of Immaculate Conception in Lonsdale, Minn., is pictured in an undated photo. (Credit: Dave Hrbacek/The Catholic Spirit via CNS)

ST. PAUL, Minnesota — A Minnesota pastor has apologized after remarks he made about Muslim immigration and Islam being “the greatest threat in the world” sparked controversy.

“My homily on immigration contained words that were hurtful to Muslims. I’m sorry for this,” said Father Nick VanDenBroeke, pastor of Immaculate Conception in Lonsdale, which is south of the Twin Cities, in the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis.

“I realize now that my comments were not fully reflective of the Catholic Church’s teaching on Islam,” he said in a Jan. 29 statement.

In a homily VanDenBroeke gave Jan. 5, the feast of the Epiphany and, in Minnesota, Immigration Sunday, he acknowledged the complexity of immigration as a political issue and that the Bible challenges Catholics to “welcome strangers.”

[…]

Then he said that immigrants’ religion and worldview should be taken into consideration when the country decides whom to admit.

“Both as Americans and as Christians, we do not need to pretend that everyone who seeks to enter America should be treated the same,” he said. “I believe it’s essential to consider the religion and worldview of the immigrants and refugees. More specifically, we should not be allowing large numbers of Muslims asylum or immigration into our country. Islam is the greatest threat in the world, both to Christianity and to America.”

He continued: “Of course there are peaceful Muslims, absolutely, but the religion as a religion, and an ideology and a worldview, it is contrary to Christ and to America.”

“I am not saying we hate Muslims. I am absolutely not saying that. They are people created out of love by God just as each one of us is. But while we certainly do not hate them as people, we must oppose their religion and worldview,” the priest said. “And if we want to protect our great country not only as a Christian nation, but also as the land of the free, then we must oppose the immigration of Muslims. That’s an example of keeping bad ideas out of the country that we have the right to do as a sovereign nation.”

A recording of the homily was posted on Immaculate Conception’s website. It drew the attention of City Pages, the Twin Cities’ alternative newsweekly, which posted a story to its website Jan. 29. The Minnesota chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations called for the Minnesota Catholic Conference to repudiate his comments.

In a Jan. 29 statement, Archbishop Bernard A. Hebda of St. Paul and Minneapolis said he spoke with VanDenBroeke about the homily “and he has expressed sorrow for his words and an openness to seeing more clearly the Church’s position on our relationship with Islam.”

“The teaching of the Catholic Church is clear,” Hebda said, pointing to several sources. “As Pope Benedict XVI noted, ‘The Catholic Church, in fidelity to the teachings of the Second Vatican Council, looks with esteem to Muslims, who worship God above all by prayer, almsgiving and fasting, revere Jesus as a prophet while not acknowledging his divinity, and honor Mary, his Virgin Mother.’ He called upon the Church to persist in esteem for Muslims, who ‘worship God who is one, living and subsistent; merciful and almighty, the creator of heaven and earth, who has also spoken to humanity.'”
There are two levels to this discussion.

The first level is the Church's teaching on our relationship to Muslims and their salvation through Christ's Church:
CCC 841 wrote: The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
The second level is the ancient Christian memory that Islam desires to conquer Christendom and the world, by military might or by any other means. They dogmatically believe this is their destiny.

And so when European Christendom embraced the sin of contraception, it took Islam less than half a century to realize that they could simply walk in as peaceful immigrants, settle into homes and jobs, and raise many children.
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Re: THE CATHOLIC THREAD

Post by hugodrax » Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:10 am

Del wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:48 am
wosbald wrote:
Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:09 am
+JMJ+

Pastor apologizes for words ‘hurtful to Muslims’ in homily on immigration
Image
Father Nick VanDenBroeke, pastor of Immaculate Conception in Lonsdale, Minn., is pictured in an undated photo. (Credit: Dave Hrbacek/The Catholic Spirit via CNS)

ST. PAUL, Minnesota — A Minnesota pastor has apologized after remarks he made about Muslim immigration and Islam being “the greatest threat in the world” sparked controversy.

“My homily on immigration contained words that were hurtful to Muslims. I’m sorry for this,” said Father Nick VanDenBroeke, pastor of Immaculate Conception in Lonsdale, which is south of the Twin Cities, in the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis.

“I realize now that my comments were not fully reflective of the Catholic Church’s teaching on Islam,” he said in a Jan. 29 statement.

In a homily VanDenBroeke gave Jan. 5, the feast of the Epiphany and, in Minnesota, Immigration Sunday, he acknowledged the complexity of immigration as a political issue and that the Bible challenges Catholics to “welcome strangers.”

[…]

Then he said that immigrants’ religion and worldview should be taken into consideration when the country decides whom to admit.

“Both as Americans and as Christians, we do not need to pretend that everyone who seeks to enter America should be treated the same,” he said. “I believe it’s essential to consider the religion and worldview of the immigrants and refugees. More specifically, we should not be allowing large numbers of Muslims asylum or immigration into our country. Islam is the greatest threat in the world, both to Christianity and to America.”

He continued: “Of course there are peaceful Muslims, absolutely, but the religion as a religion, and an ideology and a worldview, it is contrary to Christ and to America.”

“I am not saying we hate Muslims. I am absolutely not saying that. They are people created out of love by God just as each one of us is. But while we certainly do not hate them as people, we must oppose their religion and worldview,” the priest said. “And if we want to protect our great country not only as a Christian nation, but also as the land of the free, then we must oppose the immigration of Muslims. That’s an example of keeping bad ideas out of the country that we have the right to do as a sovereign nation.”

A recording of the homily was posted on Immaculate Conception’s website. It drew the attention of City Pages, the Twin Cities’ alternative newsweekly, which posted a story to its website Jan. 29. The Minnesota chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations called for the Minnesota Catholic Conference to repudiate his comments.

In a Jan. 29 statement, Archbishop Bernard A. Hebda of St. Paul and Minneapolis said he spoke with VanDenBroeke about the homily “and he has expressed sorrow for his words and an openness to seeing more clearly the Church’s position on our relationship with Islam.”

“The teaching of the Catholic Church is clear,” Hebda said, pointing to several sources. “As Pope Benedict XVI noted, ‘The Catholic Church, in fidelity to the teachings of the Second Vatican Council, looks with esteem to Muslims, who worship God above all by prayer, almsgiving and fasting, revere Jesus as a prophet while not acknowledging his divinity, and honor Mary, his Virgin Mother.’ He called upon the Church to persist in esteem for Muslims, who ‘worship God who is one, living and subsistent; merciful and almighty, the creator of heaven and earth, who has also spoken to humanity.'”
There are two levels to this discussion.

The first level is the Church's teaching on our relationship to Muslims and their salvation through Christ's Church:
CCC 841 wrote: The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
The second level is the ancient Christian memory that Islam desires to conquer Christendom and the world, by military might or by any other means. They dogmatically believe this is their destiny.

And so when European Christendom embraced the sin of contraception, it took Islam less than half a century to realize that they could simply walk in as peaceful immigrants, settle into homes and jobs, and raise many children.
Flesh it out a bit.
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