The gearhead thread.

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Re: The gearhead thread.

Post by Cleon » Fri May 11, 2018 6:58 pm

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I bought the tractor about 2000. It is a 1953 Ford NAA "Jubilee."
It is a "resto-utility" I suppose. I would like to restore it but continue to use it for everything around here.

I bought it in running condition, but with lots of work needed of course. The thing that bothered me the most was that someone had painted everything except the wheels and rear fenders "Ford Blue."

When I was out of work a few years ago, I took off all the front end removable pieces and cleaned down to bare metal. I painted with the proper colors. I have not taken time or effort to clean and re-paint the remainder. It will soon need a left rear tire. It needs brakes. We bush-hog our woods trails with it. We mow the acreage with a 6' finishing mower. I tend my driveway with a box blade. It also sees use snaking logs, pulling a trailer for firewood, using a set of pallet forks and whatever else. However, it is much more reliable when used often, so my time away finds it in needs of some sprucing up.

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Re: The gearhead thread.

Post by sweetandsour » Wed May 30, 2018 8:28 pm

I replaced rear brakes on my truck today. Not disc pads, but shoes, drum, etc. Took me a full two and a half hours, and I'm beat. I think it may be my last brake job that's not disc brakes. The springs are killers. But the little keepers on the lug bolts, that keep the drum on? Those are the real PitA.
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Re: The gearhead thread.

Post by Roadmaster » Wed May 30, 2018 9:21 pm

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Wed May 30, 2018 8:28 pm
I replaced rear brakes on my truck today. Not disc pads, but shoes, drum, etc. Took me a full two and a half hours, and I'm beat. I think it may be my last brake job that's not disc brakes. The springs are killers. But the little keepers on the lug bolts, that keep the drum on? Those are the real PitA.
I don't mind drum brakes it's the self adjusting drum brakes that I don't like.
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Re: The gearhead thread.

Post by FredS » Thu May 31, 2018 8:11 am

sweetandsour wrote:
Wed May 30, 2018 8:28 pm
I replaced rear brakes on my truck today. Not disc pads, but shoes, drum, etc. Took me a full two and a half hours, and I'm beat. I think it may be my last brake job that's not disc brakes. The springs are killers. But the little keepers on the lug bolts, that keep the drum on? Those are the real PitA.
Those little keepers? I grab 'em with a pair of dikes or needle nosed pliers and twist 'till they break. I don't put them back on.
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Re: The gearhead thread.

Post by Thunktank » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:27 am

The lost skill of turning rotors.

Manufacturers are so singleminded to save weight and improve gas mileage that they make rotors thin and flimsy. Now most shops won’t measure rotors, turn rotors or learn how to turn rotors properly because most rotors today probably can’t handle it anyway, you’ll only waste new pads and warp the old rotors in short order.

I bought upgraded rotors and ceramic brake pads for my truck last time. Break pads are worn down and I want to see if my rotors are thick enough to machine. All I wanted to do is get basic pads to last me a little while this time. Apparently that’s too much to ask these days. All I did was go in and ask that they check my rotors, the guy went straight to upselling me rotors before he even looked at my truck. I walked out in his mid sentences without saying a word. Maybe I shouldn’t have, but automatic upselling without consideration to customer needs and expectations pisses me off. :x

Similar upselling took place with the vet on Memorial Day. I questioned the need for some of what they were asking for, called them on their upselling and they admitted that about $500 dollars worth wasn’t needed yet, and might never be needed (it wasn’t).

I work sales, I don’t upsell unless I truly believe the service is a benefit to the customer after I listen to what the customer actually really wants.

Anyway, am I being unreasonable in hoping that my rotors might be worth saving?
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Re: The gearhead thread.

Post by FredS » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:04 pm

Find a new parts store Thunk. Unless you're driving a POS German car, you can get most replacement parts from a local store staffed by gearheads who understand the value of turning rotors.

I buy the best replacement rotors I can get. Usually that's *Bosch. They don't warp. Period And they're usually good for at least one turning. That is, if I have the time. I knew most of the counter jockeys at my usual store 'back home' and one of them would usually turn them while I waited. But if that wasn't possible, I'd usually just get new ones rather than leave one of our vehicles on blocks and stretching a 3 hour job to 2-3 day project.

*I know full well that Bosch is a German company. They make goods parts, they're just not good at putting them all together well.
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Re: The gearhead thread.

Post by Thunktank » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:47 pm

FredS wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:04 pm
Find a new parts store Thunk. Unless you're driving a POS German car, you can get most replacement parts from a local store staffed by gearheads who understand the value of turning rotors.

I buy the best replacement rotors I can get. Usually that's *Bosch. They don't warp. Period And they're usually good for at least one turning. That is, if I have the time. I knew most of the counter jockeys at my usual store 'back home' and one of them would usually turn them while I waited. But if that wasn't possible, I'd usually just get new ones rather than leave one of our vehicles on blocks and stretching a 3 hour job to 2-3 day project.

*I know full well that Bosch is a German company. They make goods parts, they're just not good at putting them all together well.
I have Bosch. They have a lifetime warranty too if I remember correctly, which was my plan B. And yes, the manager called me back, he knows me, as does the owner. I did work for them in the past. They pleaded that I come back. They can turn my rotors just fine. I told them to do it one little layer at a time. Turns out I don’t need new rotors after all. New guy behind the counter I dealt with the first time and boy was he apologizing and kissing my butt when I went back. I had to tell him to stop that. I still prefer the mechanics who work in garages behind all the nice ones. The ones who don’t have the nicely dressed fellows up front behind a desk. The trouble is that they can’t afford the rent where I live and work.
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Re: The gearhead thread.

Post by mustangii » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:20 pm

The only rotors I will not machine are none vented rotors, you know the ones almost too thin to start with. I really like on car brake lathes though. I can do a 4 wheel brake job in less than an hour with one. Also will not turn deep rust pitted rotors.
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:04 pm
Find a new parts store Thunk. Unless you're driving a POS German car, you can get most replacement parts from a local store staffed by gearheads who understand the value of turning rotors.

I buy the best replacement rotors I can get. Usually that's *Bosch. They don't warp. Period And they're usually good for at least one turning. That is, if I have the time. I knew most of the counter jockeys at my usual store 'back home' and one of them would usually turn them while I waited. But if that wasn't possible, I'd usually just get new ones rather than leave one of our vehicles on blocks and stretching a 3 hour job to 2-3 day project.

*I know full well that Bosch is a German company. They make goods parts, they're just not good at putting them all together well.
I have Bosch. They have a lifetime warranty too if I remember correctly, which was my plan B. And yes, the manager called me back, he knows me, as does the owner. I did work for them in the past. They pleaded that I come back. They can turn my rotors just fine. I told them to do it one little layer at a time. Turns out I don’t need new rotors after all. New guy behind the counter I dealt with the first time and boy was he apologizing and kissing my butt when I went back. I had to tell him to stop that. I still prefer the mechanics who work in garages behind all the nice ones. The ones who don’t have the nicely dressed fellows up front behind a desk. The trouble is that they can’t afford the rent where I live and work.
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Re: The gearhead thread.

Post by Thunktank » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:31 pm

I really think it’s the local economy. Rich people who will pay for anything!
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Re: The gearhead thread.

Post by Hovannes » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:24 pm

My son is replacing the water pump on the 2002 Xterra 4 banger. Getting the serpentine belts back on is a pita.

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Re: The gearhead thread.

Post by Thunktank » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:12 pm

I’m contemplating the idea of reboring my inline 6 engine, replacing the gaskets,seals and pistons. Meanwhile the DIVCO needs to start phase 2. My wife has opinions.
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