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Post by infidel » Thu May 08, 2014 11:47 am

Stumbled upon an interesting article that I could just barely keep up with, but I thought some of you might find it interesting...

http://aeon.co/magazine/world-views/log ... hilosophy/
Western philosophers have not, on the whole, regarded Buddhist thought with much enthusiasm. As a colleague once said to me: ‘It’s all just mysticism.’ This attitude is due, in part, to ignorance. But it is also due to incomprehension. When Western philosophers look East, they find things they do not understand – not least the fact that the Asian traditions seem to accept, and even endorse, contradictions. Thus we find the great second-century Buddhist philosopher Nagarjuna saying:
The nature of things is to have no nature; it is their non-nature that is their nature. For they have only one nature: no-nature.
An abhorrence of contradiction has been high orthodoxy in the West for more than 2,000 years. Statements such as Nagarjuna’s are therefore wont to produce looks of blank incomprehension, or worse. As Avicenna, the father of Medieval Aristotelianism, declared:
Anyone who denies the law of non-contradiction should be beaten and burned until he admits that to be beaten is not the same as not to be beaten, and to be burned is not the same as not to be burned.
One can hear similar sentiments, expressed with comparable ferocity, in many faculty common rooms today. Yet Western philosophers are slowly learning to outgrow their parochialism. And help is coming from a most unexpected direction: modern mathematical logic, not a field that is renowned for its tolerance of obscurity.
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Re: The Philosophy Thread

Post by SmokinGordon » Thu May 08, 2014 1:34 pm

infidel wrote:Stumbled upon an interesting article that I could just barely keep up with, but I thought some of you might find it interesting...

http://aeon.co/magazine/world-views/log ... hilosophy/
Western philosophers have not, on the whole, regarded Buddhist thought with much enthusiasm. As a colleague once said to me: ‘It’s all just mysticism.’ This attitude is due, in part, to ignorance. But it is also due to incomprehension. When Western philosophers look East, they find things they do not understand – not least the fact that the Asian traditions seem to accept, and even endorse, contradictions. Thus we find the great second-century Buddhist philosopher Nagarjuna saying:
The nature of things is to have no nature; it is their non-nature that is their nature. For they have only one nature: no-nature.
An abhorrence of contradiction has been high orthodoxy in the West for more than 2,000 years. Statements such as Nagarjuna’s are therefore wont to produce looks of blank incomprehension, or worse. As Avicenna, the father of Medieval Aristotelianism, declared:
Anyone who denies the law of non-contradiction should be beaten and burned until he admits that to be beaten is not the same as not to be beaten, and to be burned is not the same as not to be burned.
One can hear similar sentiments, expressed with comparable ferocity, in many faculty common rooms today. Yet Western philosophers are slowly learning to outgrow their parochialism. And help is coming from a most unexpected direction: modern mathematical logic, not a field that is renowned for its tolerance of obscurity.
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Post by Cleon » Thu May 08, 2014 2:54 pm

Interesting read. Thanks.
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Post by DepartedLight » Thu May 08, 2014 4:17 pm

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Post by SmokinGordon » Thu May 08, 2014 5:13 pm

DepartedLight wrote:Should I raise one finger or cut the cat in half?
Yes.
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Re: The Philosophy Thread

Post by SmokinGordon » Thu May 08, 2014 5:14 pm

SmokinGordon wrote:
infidel wrote:Stumbled upon an interesting article that I could just barely keep up with, but I thought some of you might find it interesting...

http://aeon.co/magazine/world-views/log ... hilosophy/
Western philosophers have not, on the whole, regarded Buddhist thought with much enthusiasm. As a colleague once said to me: ‘It’s all just mysticism.’ This attitude is due, in part, to ignorance. But it is also due to incomprehension. When Western philosophers look East, they find things they do not understand – not least the fact that the Asian traditions seem to accept, and even endorse, contradictions. Thus we find the great second-century Buddhist philosopher Nagarjuna saying:
The nature of things is to have no nature; it is their non-nature that is their nature. For they have only one nature: no-nature.
An abhorrence of contradiction has been high orthodoxy in the West for more than 2,000 years. Statements such as Nagarjuna’s are therefore wont to produce looks of blank incomprehension, or worse. As Avicenna, the father of Medieval Aristotelianism, declared:
Anyone who denies the law of non-contradiction should be beaten and burned until he admits that to be beaten is not the same as not to be beaten, and to be burned is not the same as not to be burned.
One can hear similar sentiments, expressed with comparable ferocity, in many faculty common rooms today. Yet Western philosophers are slowly learning to outgrow their parochialism. And help is coming from a most unexpected direction: modern mathematical logic, not a field that is renowned for its tolerance of obscurity.
Heck, if I put my mind, or no mind to it, or not to it, I could sound, or not sound, brilliant, or not brilliant too! :egor:
Or not.
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Re: The Philosophy Thread

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Re: The Philosophy Thread

Post by wosbald » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:56 am

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Re: The Philosophy Thread

Post by Del » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:11 am

I should encourage Pipeson to return for this thread.

He is reading the Dialogues of Socrates (collected by Plato) now. Last night, he was excited by the Dialogue with Theaetetus, in which they discuss the nature of a definition.

I am looking forward to reading the dialogues. But first, I have to finish Boethius's Consolation of Philosophy.

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Re: The Philosophy Thread

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Re: The Philosophy Thread

Post by wosbald » Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:56 am

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I've been saying for quite a while (and, yes, this was a rather ubiquitous observation on my part) that Postmodernism has cleared the field for a return to Realism.

Here are some, IMO, exciting developments from the founding voices of the "New Realism".

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Maurizio Ferraris (Note his key concept of moral "Unamendability")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmVtkGXwF_I

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Markus Gabriel (Note his key concept of "Fields of Sense")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLNN5scWCtA

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Based on my very tentative, initial impressions, it seems relatively safe to say that those whose dispositions lean towards a more analytic, logical Aristotelian framework will probably preference Ferraris whilst those (like myself) who are disposed to a more synthetic, intuitive Platonic skien will gravitate towards Gabriel. But, of course, both of their perspectives have indispensable value and worth to contribute to the plurivocal cause of Realism.

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Post by wosbald » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:02 am

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On the Ashes of Post-Modernism: A New Realism. A Conference with Umberto Eco

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Re: The Philosophy Thread

Post by wosbald » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:44 am

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Why the world does not exist | Markus Gabriel | TEDxMünchen

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Re: The Philosophy Thread

Post by Jocose » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:22 pm

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Re: The Philosophy Thread

Post by Jocose » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:25 am

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Post by wosbald » Mon Oct 24, 2016 5:33 pm

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Prospects for a New Realism — Markus Gabriel

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Post by wosbald » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:49 am

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Re: The Philosophy Thread

Post by infidel » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:18 pm

Is atomic theory the most important idea in human history?
The greatest physicist of the second half of the 20th century, Richard Feynman, wrote at the beginning of his wonderful introductory lectures on physics:
If, in some cataclysm, all scientific knowledge were to be destroyed, and only one sentence passed on to the next generation of creatures, what statement would contain the most information in the fewest words? I believe it is the atomic hypothesis, or the atomic fact, or whatever you wish to call it, that all things are made of atoms – little particles that move around in perpetual motion, attracting each other when they are a little distance apart, but repelling upon being squeezed into one another. In that one sentence you will see an enormous amount of information about the world, if just a little imagination and thinking are applied.
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