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Re: The Fly Tying Thread

Post by Gabriel » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:14 pm

10-4. The red was to remind me that it’s weighted. I need to come up with a system if I’m going to hide the weight. I just haven’t been able to bring myself to put lead on the leader.


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Post by Gabriel » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:14 pm

Ultra simple, but hopefully will be attractive to cold, sluggish fish.

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Re: The Fly Tying Thread

Post by durangopipe » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:25 pm

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Ultra simple, but hopefully will be attractive to cold, sluggish fish.

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You would catch more large trout on the San Juan with that fly than with any other fly in your box, Gabriel.

Seems somehow wrong that flies you can tie in less than a minute (midge pupae and larvae, annelids, San Juan Worms) do better on some rivers than painstakingly tied flies that take forever.
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Re: The Fly Tying Thread

Post by Gabriel » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:52 pm

durangopipe wrote:
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Ultra simple, but hopefully will be attractive to cold, sluggish fish.

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You would catch more large trout on the San Juan with that fly than with any other fly in your box, Gabriel.

Seems somehow wrong that flies you can tie in less than a minute (midge pupae and larvae, annelids, San Juan Worms) do better on some rivers than painstakingly tied flies that take forever.
So true. My most broadly effective pattern has been a raggedly tied bit of straggly black hackle palmered around black chenille. Takes a couple minutes to tie and is ugly as can be.
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Re: The Fly Tying Thread

Post by Gabriel » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:30 pm

Not everything is a success...

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Post by durangopipe » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:53 pm

Are we taking about fly tying or life here? :lol:
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Post by Bloodhound » Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:12 am

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Bet it will catch a fish. I saw a couple of flies with instructions that were intentionally broken wing and other "Damaged" flies. Kind of cool
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Re: The Fly Tying Thread

Post by durangopipe » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:42 pm

A while back Gabriel asked to see my pile of steelhead and salmon fly boxes.
I dug them out today . . .

The fully dressed flies (lower right, first photo) were tied by Paul Burgess

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A bit excessive for a fisherman who lives 1,000 miles from the salt.

But then . . .

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Post by Gabriel » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:42 pm

Nice! Thanks for sharing. These look fantastic.


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Re: The Fly Tying Thread

Post by Gabriel » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:45 pm

Always looking to incorporate my pheasant feathers, I decided to try my hand at a fan wing style dry this evening. It looks like a rough draft, but that’s what it is, so I’m ok with it. :)

Pheasant tail fibers for tail and body, pheasant breast wings.

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Re: The Fly Tying Thread

Post by Gabriel » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:51 pm

So... this was fun to create, and the wings look cool, but I’m somewhat dubious about casting these things.
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Re: The Fly Tying Thread

Post by durangopipe » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:56 pm

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So... this was fun to create, and the wings look cool, but I’m somewhat dubious about casting these things.
Yeah.
Fan wings tend to “helicopter.”

But it looks like you’re havin’ fun!
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Re: The Fly Tying Thread

Post by durangopipe » Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:01 pm

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Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:14 pm
I just haven’t been able to bring myself to put lead on the leader.

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You will. :pipe3:
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Re: The Fly Tying Thread

Post by FredS » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:18 am

Gabriel wrote:
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So... this was fun to create, and the wings look cool, but I’m somewhat dubious about casting these things.
There's no rule that says you have to actually fish with the flies you tie.

And nice salmon flies dp.
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Re: The Fly Tying Thread

Post by FredS » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:05 pm

Looks like BWO's are the first bugs out here in spring (besides the midges that are always around) so I'm working on baetis nymphs today. Size 16 here, but I'll make some 18's and try to make some 20's. Kelly Gallup swears UV Pearl dubbing for 'gills' is a trigger. It almost disappears in the water. We'll see.

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Post by Gabriel » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:25 pm

Size 16? That looks great.
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Re: The Fly Tying Thread

Post by FredS » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:40 pm

I'm learning a whole new scale out here Gabriel. I reckon fish who get whacked a time or two by eating a big ol' t-bone steak quickly learn to stick with the tried and true bacon bits they see all the time.
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Re: The Fly Tying Thread

Post by Gabriel » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:30 pm

I should have asked this earlier, but I haven’t hardly had time or energy think lately. I have a young man coming over to the house tomorrow to tie some flies. He’s going to FL next week and wants me to help him tie some flies for the trip.

I love that he’s asking, but I’ve never had any need to tie salt water patterns and have limited materials and no time to order anything. I need suggestions...

He’ll be fishing the brackish water on the gulf side and was hoping to have some shrimp or baitfish patterns. My biggest hooks at #6 streamer hooks. He’s bringing some extra long 4’s.

Help?
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Re: The Fly Tying Thread

Post by durangopipe » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:01 pm

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He’ll be fishing the brackish water on the gulf side . . .
Florida, brackish, Gulf side - in the mangroves down south (only place I've fished down there)??

When in doubt or in a hurry . . .
Wooly Buggers!

Some beadhead. Some without.

Orange.
Red.
White.
Lime.

Combinations thereof.

Muddlers in the same colors can be fished as poppers if unweighted.

Red and white together are great for Snook! The snook guides call them UTs (Used Tampons).

Monofilament weed guards are a good idea, especially around the mangrove roots where snook hide.

There are lots of other great flies (I like Dahlberg Divers a lot - but they are time consuming to tie), but nothing in my experience catches any better than a bugger in that water and they're fast to tie.

Great Snook fly (not my photo):
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Clousers, too (not my photo)!
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Clousers may be the most popular saltwater/brackish water flies in the world.


But honestly, you can't go wrong with a mess of buggers.
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Re: The Fly Tying Thread

Post by Gabriel » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:25 pm

Clousers and buggers I can do. I'm hoping he is able to bring some more colors with him to supplement what I have.

He seems to have his heart set on a shrimp pattern. Is that unrealistic for an impromptu tying session like this? I don't have shell type material or anything. Taking a quick stroll through Tim Flagler's videos and I'm not seeing anything right off the bat...
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