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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by sysiphus » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:36 pm

Del wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:22 pm
Hoppin' John heats up nicely for leftovers.

Which is fortunate, because I made a very large batch, and it's gonna be around for a while.
Put it over cornbread.
Not cake with cornmeal and sugar, but cornbread.
Not some strange pepper-laden ... thing, but cornbread as the Lord intended it.
Don't even consider honey, as it is abomination.

Corn meal, flour, egg, salt, buttermilk.
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by JimVH » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:54 pm

sysiphus wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:36 pm
Del wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:22 pm
Hoppin' John heats up nicely for leftovers.

Which is fortunate, because I made a very large batch, and it's gonna be around for a while.
Put it over cornbread.
Not cake with cornmeal and sugar, but cornbread.
Not some strange pepper-laden ... thing, but cornbread as the Lord intended it.
Don't even consider honey, as it is abomination.

Corn meal, flour, egg, salt, buttermilk.
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by Joshoowah » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:20 pm

Del wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:01 am
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Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:36 pm
Chocolate gravy.
Okay.... that's a real thing I might gotta try.
https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/18729 ... ate-gravy/
Recipe is basic and should work.

My wife thought I was crazy the first time I told her about it. Then, my mom fixed it for us when we visited once and the wife's mind was blown. It's good stuff.
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by Del » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:01 am

sysiphus wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:36 pm
Del wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:22 pm
Hoppin' John heats up nicely for leftovers.

Which is fortunate, because I made a very large batch, and it's gonna be around for a while.
Put it over cornbread.
Not cake with cornmeal and sugar, but cornbread.
Not some strange pepper-laden ... thing, but cornbread as the Lord intended it.
Don't even consider honey, as it is abomination.

Corn meal, flour, egg, salt, buttermilk.
I think I should make some cornbread this weekend.
https://www.marthastewart.com/355583/skillet-cornbread
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by JMG » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:38 am

I have never heard of this. And I have lived in Mississippi my entire life. However, there is absolutely nothing southern about kale.
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by Del » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:55 pm

JMG wrote:
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I have never heard of this. And I have lived in Mississippi my entire life. However, there is absolutely nothing southern about kale.
There ain't no collards at my grocery story. There's kale.

I figure substitute greens is better'n no greens.
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by JMG » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:02 pm

Del wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:55 pm
JMG wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:38 am
I have never heard of this. And I have lived in Mississippi my entire life. However, there is absolutely nothing southern about kale.
There ain't no collards at my grocery story. There's kale.

I figure substitute greens is better'n no greens.
No turnip greens?
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by Del » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:11 pm

JMG wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:02 pm
Del wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:55 pm
JMG wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:38 am
I have never heard of this. And I have lived in Mississippi my entire life. However, there is absolutely nothing southern about kale.
There ain't no collards at my grocery story. There's kale.

I figure substitute greens is better'n no greens.
No turnip greens?
There was a wall of greens, fennel bulbs, parsley, cilantro, bok choy, etc. Among the cards above the wall one said "turnip greens." I looked for, but couldn't find the turnip greens.

Mustard greens caught my eye. I was tempted to try them.

The kale was pretty good. They hold on to a crunchy texture, like cabbage.
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by DepartedLight » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:23 pm

Del wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:11 pm
JMG wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:02 pm
Del wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:55 pm
JMG wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:38 am
I have never heard of this. And I have lived in Mississippi my entire life. However, there is absolutely nothing southern about kale.
There ain't no collards at my grocery story. There's kale.

I figure substitute greens is better'n no greens.
No turnip greens?
There was a wall of greens, fennel bulbs, parsley, cilantro, bok choy, etc. Among the cards above the wall one said "turnip greens." I looked for, but couldn't find the turnip greens.

Mustard greens caught my eye. I was tempted to try them.

The kale was pretty good. They hold on to a crunchy texture, like cabbage.
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by JimVH » Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:42 pm

DepartedLight wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:23 pm
Del wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:11 pm
JMG wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:02 pm
Del wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:55 pm
JMG wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:38 am
I have never heard of this. And I have lived in Mississippi my entire life. However, there is absolutely nothing southern about kale.
There ain't no collards at my grocery story. There's kale.

I figure substitute greens is better'n no greens.
No turnip greens?
There was a wall of greens, fennel bulbs, parsley, cilantro, bok choy, etc. Among the cards above the wall one said "turnip greens." I looked for, but couldn't find the turnip greens.

Mustard greens caught my eye. I was tempted to try them.

The kale was pretty good. They hold on to a crunchy texture, like cabbage.
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by CodeMonkey » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:58 am

Brown beans and cornbread with taters fried with onions is one of the best meals you can have. Another thing I had growing up was fresh sliced tomatoes from the garden covered in cream gravy.
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by Goose55 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:42 am

Del wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:10 pm
A young family joined our parish this year. They moved to Wisconsin from Alabama, after discovering that their 2-year-old son is deathly allergic to fire ants.

I've been interested in Southern Cooking for a few years now. It is good to have some friends in the area who grew up with it.

The young mommy suggested that I should try Hoppin' John. This is a beans-&-rice dish featuring black-eyed peas.

I found several versions on the internet. I decided to try this one.
https://www.tablespoon.com/recipes/hopp ... 41aebde1ad

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I got a 1-lb bag of black-eyed peas and a bunch of kale from Piggly-Wiggle. Fresh field peas and collard greens aren't a thing, here. My local butcher smokes a decent pork hock. I used the two (optional) jalapeño peppers. Next time, I think I'll cut back to one. And I added a teaspoon of rubbed sage (my secret spice ingredient).

It turned out really good! I can see why this is Southern favorite.

You who live south of the Mason-Dixon.... I blame you guys for not telling me about Hoppin' John, a long time ago. What else are you hiding from me?
That looks really good.
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by JimVH » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:54 am

CodeMonkey wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:58 am
Brown beans and cornbread with taters fried with onions is one of the best meals you can have.
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by Del » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:09 am

Del wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:01 am
sysiphus wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:36 pm
Del wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:22 pm
Hoppin' John heats up nicely for leftovers.

Which is fortunate, because I made a very large batch, and it's gonna be around for a while.
Put it over cornbread.
Not cake with cornmeal and sugar, but cornbread.
Not some strange pepper-laden ... thing, but cornbread as the Lord intended it.
Don't even consider honey, as it is abomination.

Corn meal, flour, egg, salt, buttermilk.
I think I should make some cornbread this weekend.
https://www.marthastewart.com/355583/skillet-cornbread
It's the weekend.

And I'm baking cornbread.
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by Del » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:27 am

sysiphus wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:36 pm
Del wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:22 pm
Hoppin' John heats up nicely for leftovers.

Which is fortunate, because I made a very large batch, and it's gonna be around for a while.
Put it over cornbread.
Not cake with cornmeal and sugar, but cornbread.
Not some strange pepper-laden ... thing, but cornbread as the Lord intended it.
Don't even consider honey, as it is abomination.

Corn meal, flour, egg, salt, buttermilk.
Hoppin' John on cornbread is really, really good. Way better than rice.

How about chocolate gravy on cornbread? Is that a thing?
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by sysiphus » Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:56 am

Del wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:27 am
sysiphus wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:36 pm
Del wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:22 pm
Hoppin' John heats up nicely for leftovers.

Which is fortunate, because I made a very large batch, and it's gonna be around for a while.
Put it over cornbread.
Not cake with cornmeal and sugar, but cornbread.
Not some strange pepper-laden ... thing, but cornbread as the Lord intended it.
Don't even consider honey, as it is abomination.

Corn meal, flour, egg, salt, buttermilk.
Hoppin' John on cornbread is really, really good. Way better than rice.

How about chocolate gravy on cornbread? Is that a thing?
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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by venator260 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:26 am

Man, they have collard greens sometimes in my grocery store. In Pennsylvania. In the middle part, not either end that had a significant influx of black southerners during the Great Migration. I can find ham hocks locally as well, which also surprised me, as people here don't tend to have southern roots; they all go directly to Europe if you go back far enough.

The above is how I was exposed to a version of Hoppin' John. In Pittsburgh I worked with a woman whose family was southern and I cooked for a mental health consumer from South Carolina. I always just toss stuff in, never really follow a recipe. I let her try one of my better versions and she was impressed. The quality of my approach is variable, but it's cheap and makes a whole lot. Keeps me in lunches for a week. I've applied the same recipe to pinto beans too, worked just as well.

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Re: Hoppin' John

Post by Joshoowah » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:54 am

Del wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:27 am
sysiphus wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:36 pm
Del wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:22 pm
Hoppin' John heats up nicely for leftovers.

Which is fortunate, because I made a very large batch, and it's gonna be around for a while.
Put it over cornbread.
Not cake with cornmeal and sugar, but cornbread.
Not some strange pepper-laden ... thing, but cornbread as the Lord intended it.
Don't even consider honey, as it is abomination.

Corn meal, flour, egg, salt, buttermilk.
Hoppin' John on cornbread is really, really good. Way better than rice.

How about chocolate gravy on cornbread? Is that a thing?
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