Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by joegoat » Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:05 pm

arank87 wrote:
joegoat wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:43 am
This whole vaccine has been a race to a profit. The drug companies only have to prove it is reasonably safe any that it might actually work a percentage of the time. Every drug on the market carries a risk of death and or doing nothing to help.
I'm not the first guy to cross the sketchy, rotted out bridge on the trail. I'll see how the rest of the herd fares before I even think about it.
Like Del said, if old Mike DeSwine thinks enough vaccines in Ohio negate the mandatory masks, let's pump this stuff into people's arms. I'm tired of the walmart door guards asking if I have a mask. Nope, prove they work and I'll wear the blasted thing. Deny me entry if you want, that is the result of my choice.
I've been watching Ohio's numbers ever since Dewine made face coverings mandatory (something he previously said he wouldn't do because it was government overstepping). They haven't improved even though he claims they are way down.
We're at what? 2% of the US population has tested positive since this thing began? This thing is blown way out of proportion. After election day, regardless of who wins or if we have a vaccine, this will all but disappear.


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Is it 2%? Wouldn’t 1% be 30 million positives? I don’t think it’s that high but I could be wrong.
The US has 330 millionish. 3.3 million would be 1%. Last I checked, there were just over 6,000,000 positive tests nationwide.

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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by arank87 » Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:14 pm

joegoat wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:05 pm
arank87 wrote:
joegoat wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:43 am
This whole vaccine has been a race to a profit. The drug companies only have to prove it is reasonably safe any that it might actually work a percentage of the time. Every drug on the market carries a risk of death and or doing nothing to help.
I'm not the first guy to cross the sketchy, rotted out bridge on the trail. I'll see how the rest of the herd fares before I even think about it.
Like Del said, if old Mike DeSwine thinks enough vaccines in Ohio negate the mandatory masks, let's pump this stuff into people's arms. I'm tired of the walmart door guards asking if I have a mask. Nope, prove they work and I'll wear the blasted thing. Deny me entry if you want, that is the result of my choice.
I've been watching Ohio's numbers ever since Dewine made face coverings mandatory (something he previously said he wouldn't do because it was government overstepping). They haven't improved even though he claims they are way down.
We're at what? 2% of the US population has tested positive since this thing began? This thing is blown way out of proportion. After election day, regardless of who wins or if we have a vaccine, this will all but disappear.


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Is it 2%? Wouldn’t 1% be 30 million positives? I don’t think it’s that high but I could be wrong.
The US has 330 millionish. 3.3 million would be 1%. Last I checked, there were just over 6,000,000 positive tests nationwide.

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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by Del » Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:52 pm

arank87 wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:14 pm
joegoat wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:05 pm
arank87 wrote:
joegoat wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:43 am
This whole vaccine has been a race to a profit. The drug companies only have to prove it is reasonably safe any that it might actually work a percentage of the time. Every drug on the market carries a risk of death and or doing nothing to help.
I'm not the first guy to cross the sketchy, rotted out bridge on the trail. I'll see how the rest of the herd fares before I even think about it.
Like Del said, if old Mike DeSwine thinks enough vaccines in Ohio negate the mandatory masks, let's pump this stuff into people's arms. I'm tired of the walmart door guards asking if I have a mask. Nope, prove they work and I'll wear the blasted thing. Deny me entry if you want, that is the result of my choice.
I've been watching Ohio's numbers ever since Dewine made face coverings mandatory (something he previously said he wouldn't do because it was government overstepping). They haven't improved even though he claims they are way down.
We're at what? 2% of the US population has tested positive since this thing began? This thing is blown way out of proportion. After election day, regardless of who wins or if we have a vaccine, this will all but disappear.


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Is it 2%? Wouldn’t 1% be 30 million positives? I don’t think it’s that high but I could be wrong.
The US has 330 millionish. 3.3 million would be 1%. Last I checked, there were just over 6,000,000 positive tests nationwide.

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And that's if we trust the government's numbers. Government experts are worse at math than you are.

They suck at tracking, too.

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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by GaryInVA » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:16 pm

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Regarding the use of fetal tissue in the making of vaccines: some use it, some don’t.
If we are able to keep getting information like that provided in the link below we’ll be able to make an informed, ethical choice.

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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by SlowToke » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:49 pm

Del wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:04 pm
The good news is that the vaccine doesn't need to be all that effective, because the virus isn't all that dangerous.
I'm not so much concerned with whether the vaccine is effective as I am that it's dangerous. I'm not real keen on taking an ineffective and possibly dangerous vaccine for a virus that isn't all that dangerous if you know what I mean.
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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by DepartedLight » Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:56 pm

Will I have a choice?
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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by sweetandsour » Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:10 pm

DepartedLight wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:56 pm
Will I have a choice?
Let's all hope so. I was pre-school age when the polio vaccine was widely distributed. I remember our entire family going to the cafeteria of a local school and eating the sugar cube. But I was reminded just yesterday in our zoom Bible study that early versions were giving kids polio and some of them died. Salk had to make adjustments before the major distribution occurred.
One of our participants yesterday is a very well known orthopedic surgeon, and he commented that he didn't like the FDA rushing things, but he knows folks that have already taken the vaccine, with no issues so far. Also he expects a covid 20 and a 21, etc, going forward. There will be vaccines, just like current flu shots.
But I still have concerns about them being mandatory.
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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by Goose55 » Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:07 pm

Del wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:57 pm
I don't have any strong feelings, one way or the other.

If it lets us stop the pretense of wearing masks everywhere, I'm for it.
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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by DepartedLight » Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:48 pm

Goose55 wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:07 pm
Del wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:57 pm
I don't have any strong feelings, one way or the other.

If it lets us stop the pretense of wearing masks everywhere, I'm for it.
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with this vaccine and subsequent updates to be announced at a future date and or dates you agree to have all these long boring medical words in latin to be shot in yer butt cheek. Fine print is that them a fore mentioned guvmint bastages just literally chipped yer ass.

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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by BeefyG » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:11 pm

I suspect it will be a condition of employment for me. Otherwise, no.

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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by Fainn » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:45 pm

I sure hope Hov's not a spy testing who will be compliant.
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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by AFRS » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:06 am

Flatten the curve. The curve is flatter than a snakes belly in a wagon rut....
Ok, but do social distancing... ok, but if that works why...
Just wear a mask, ok? right, but if that works why..
Vaccine.

No. Never.

Bill Gates polio vaccine in Africa is causing a polio outbreak.
His vaccine initiatives in India have been shut down because of the damage it's done to Indian kids...

No. Never. My health is worth more than a job, or a ride on a bus, or a tour of Wal-Fart

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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by Roadmaster » Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:47 am

AFRS wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:06 am
Flatten the curve. The curve is flatter than a snakes belly in a wagon rut....
Ok, but do social distancing... ok, but if that works why...
Just wear a mask, ok? right, but if that works why..
Vaccine.

No. Never.

Bill Gates polio vaccine in Africa is causing a polio outbreak.
His vaccine initiatives in India have been shut down because of the damage it's done to Indian kids...

No. Never. My health is worth more than a job, or a ride on a bus, or a tour of Wal-Fart
You may want to fact-check this.

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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by tuttle » Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:40 am

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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by hugodrax » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:53 am

Roadmaster wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:47 am
AFRS wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:06 am
Flatten the curve. The curve is flatter than a snakes belly in a wagon rut....
Ok, but do social distancing... ok, but if that works why...
Just wear a mask, ok? right, but if that works why..
Vaccine.

No. Never.

Bill Gates polio vaccine in Africa is causing a polio outbreak.
His vaccine initiatives in India have been shut down because of the damage it's done to Indian kids...

No. Never. My health is worth more than a job, or a ride on a bus, or a tour of Wal-Fart
You may want to fact-check this.
I fact-checked this. Roadmaster says to do something, I do it.
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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by Adam Z » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:42 am

As for me and my house, we have no plans to take any Covid-19 vaccine. We stopped getting influenza vaccines years ago too.
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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by Cleon » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:11 pm

I have no problem with a vaccine per se.

Like previous posters I do have a problem with a vaccine developed from aborted fetal cells. I'm also not keen on injecting something that is rushed into production.

The last flu shot I got was the H1N1 way back when.
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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by AFRS » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:24 am

hugodrax wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:53 am
Roadmaster wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:47 am
AFRS wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:06 am
Flatten the curve. The curve is flatter than a snakes belly in a wagon rut....
Ok, but do social distancing... ok, but if that works why...
Just wear a mask, ok? right, but if that works why..
Vaccine.

No. Never.

Bill Gates polio vaccine in Africa is causing a polio outbreak.
His vaccine initiatives in India have been shut down because of the damage it's done to Indian kids...

No. Never. My health is worth more than a job, or a ride on a bus, or a tour of Wal-Fart
You may want to fact-check this.
I fact-checked this. Roadmaster says to do something, I do it.
And? Inquiring minds want to know!

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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by joegoat » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:53 am

I was looking up some numbers. Looks like about 10% of the US population catches the flu every year even with wide spread use of vaccination. Covid 19 looks to be about three times more deadly (if every death is actually directly caused by the virus), but a three percent chance is still pretty low especially if you look at the 2% who have tested positive.
I'm not convinced that the shutdowns and face coverings are responsible for slowing the spread. Either it is not as highly contagious as the media and politicians are trying to convince us it is or it isn't actually causing symptoms causing people to go out and be tested.

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Re: Will you take a Covid 19 vaccine?

Post by Sir Moose » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:06 pm

This thread needs a poll.

And for the record...no.
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