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Owner's Manuals then and now

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Re: Owner's Manuals then and now

Post by SlowToke » Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:25 pm

Heck. Some owners manuals these days don't even tell you how to change the oil. I guess you can find it on YouTube though. [/imisstheeyerollemoji]
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Re: Owner's Manuals then and now

Post by plainview » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:33 pm

My old VW Bug's manual definitely had the "do it yourself" vibe.

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Re: Owner's Manuals then and now

Post by Roadmaster » Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:20 am

The owners manual in my 57 Chevrolet states, "Car being sold with a 4,000 mile or 90 day warranty, whichever comes first."

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Re: Owner's Manuals then and now

Post by GaryInVA » Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:40 am

plainview wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:33 pm
My old VW Bug's manual definitely had the "do it yourself" vibe.
My copy of this was spiral bound. Wish I still had it.

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Re: Owner's Manuals then and now

Post by plainview » Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:06 am

GaryInVA wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:40 am
plainview wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:33 pm
My old VW Bug's manual definitely had the "do it yourself" vibe.
My copy of this was spiral bound. Wish I still had it.

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Neat book. Have to keep those VW valves adjusted. :D

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Re: Owner's Manuals then and now

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GaryInVA wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:40 am
plainview wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:33 pm
My old VW Bug's manual definitely had the "do it yourself" vibe.
My copy of this was spiral bound. Wish I still had it.

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I still have my copy. Somehow the impression of the bottom of a Bilstein jack got embossed into the front cover
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Re: Owner's Manuals then and now

Post by FredS » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:53 pm

The thinking is that few people do even minimal services to their vehicles these days. I've owned a few newer vehicles with automatic transmissions with no dipsticks because it's not considered a "user serviceable" item. Most drivers can put in gas and windshield washer fluid and take it to the shop for everything else.

Geezers b**** & moan about the expense and complication of new cars but they're so much better these days. When I was a kid, we repacked wheel bearings every year. We changed jets in the carburetor when we vacationed in Colorado. Brake shoes and pads lasted maybe 15,000 miles. Tires sucked. Remember when we actually had to change tires in the winter?

Some companies won't sell repair manuals or proprietary repair parts to independent auto shops or individual consumers. VW and Tesla are the worst but even John Deere is in on this. If you're a guy who likes to fix things on your vehicles I encourage you to investigate the "Right to Repair" (R2R) Campaign and advocate for your interests.
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Re: Owner's Manuals then and now

Post by AnungUnRama » Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:49 pm

Dude that is one reason I will not even buy small John Deere equipment. They were on my short list for a zero turn or tractor mower when I found that out and they went straight to the round filing cabinet afterwards.

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Re: Owner's Manuals then and now

Post by Hovannes » Thu Oct 08, 2020 8:50 am

FredS wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:53 pm
The thinking is that few people do even minimal services to their vehicles these days. I've owned a few newer vehicles with automatic transmissions with no dipsticks because it's not considered a "user serviceable" item. Most drivers can put in gas and windshield washer fluid and take it to the shop for everything else.

Geezers b**** & moan about the expense and complication of new cars but they're so much better these days. When I was a kid, we repacked wheel bearings every year. We changed jets in the carburetor when we vacationed in Colorado. Brake shoes and pads lasted maybe 15,000 miles. Tires sucked. Remember when we actually had to change tires in the winter?

Some companies won't sell repair manuals or proprietary repair parts to independent auto shops or individual consumers. VW and Tesla are the worst but even John Deere is in on this. If you're a guy who likes to fix things on your vehicles I encourage you to investigate the "Right to Repair" (R2R) Campaign and advocate for your interests.
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