1. The point isn't that the Canadian cops are actually Nazis or Gestapo, but that they are operating in the same 'spirit' of cracking down on freedoms. And I'm not saying whether or not Jesus would give his stamp of approval in this situation, but there is a similarity in Jesus and the Baptist calling their authorities vipers and whitewashed tombs and such. In other words, this pastor (as I read it) wasn't saying this to identify them as much as it was to shame them.FredS wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:33 am1. The guy needs to reflect on the persecution he may have seen as a boy. Then realize those Canadian cops weren't doing anything near that. Then learn how to be situationaly aware. Then learn how not to totally lose his %fracking mind when he feels threatened or uncomfortable. Canada has (or wants) some pretty severe - unreasonable, I think - laws on hate speech and I dare say the things this whackadoodle screamed at the cops are bumping right up against that.tuttle wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:25 am1. The guy was born in communist Poland. I don't think a trip to China is necessary.FredS wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:54 amI say he's a %fracking idiot, not a legend.
Gestapo Nazi psychopaths? I suppose the cops were there because someone called them to report violation of a mask mandate or law limiting the size of a gathering but I don't know that for sure. If that's the case though, police walking peacefully in to and out of his church building because he was breaking the law is hardly on the same level as the holocaust. That jackass needs to take a trip to China if he wants to see persecution and intimidation. But hey - by god he made a heroic stand in the face of evil! Thank goodness he was fortunate enough to catch it all on his cell phone to share with the world how brave and defiant he is. His on-screen rant there at the end was just great.
2. This is right off the heels of Canada jailing a pastor for 35 days violating Covid regulations.
3. Regardless of his colorful use of epithets, he was well within his rights to tell them to leave if they don't have a warrant (insofar as I've seen on reports). Now, while I would likely choose a different way of handling it, I happen to agree with his logic regarding the name calling. I see what the purpose was.
4. Also according to reports, this isn't the first time the state has interfered with this guy so it seems his claim that their presence was meant to intimidate worshippers is valid to some degree.
2. Other pastors being jailed for breaking the law is no excuse for his temper tantrum.
3. I'm not sure he was within his rights to ask them to leave. Are the cops not allowed to enter a building when and where they suspect a crime is being committed or where someone expressly reported a crime being committed? Perhaps they ransacked the place searching for evidence of a crime or questioned people before the video started but all we saw were the cops entering and exiting a building that was presumably open to the public when they entered.
4. One wonders why this guy has a history of 'state interference'. What is he doing to draw their attention and why? You and I will distill this down until we understand that neither of us wants jackbooted thugs standing on our necks preventing the free practice of religion and free assembly, but I wonder if this guy's history of breaking the law or tweaking the cops - and broadcasting it at least this once - is more about him than it is about Jesus.
2. This didn't sound like a temper tantrum as much as it was fury. Whether it was righteous fury or not it seems folks have different opinions. I viewed it as a shepherd making a point rather than a toddler throwing a fit. And the uploading it to the internet isn't a tantrum, but purposeful which I think is further evidence that he's making a point.
3. I don't know Canadian law. It seems demanding a warrant was a legitimate as the cops just left and didn't smash his face into the concrete. But then again, Canadians are so nice, perhaps they just left even though he was wrong.
4. I don't know how far we want to branch this out but I took a look at his wiki page. Seems he's a conservative firebrand, fit more for the American Bible Belt than the Great North but I couldn't find anything much more damning than that. But having a wiki page means people know who he is, even if we don't, and whether he's a lightning rod for the right reasons or wrong, it's beyond me at the moment.
Whatever the case, it is undeniable that COVID restrictions have placed both churches and cops in some tension. In cultures rooted in religious liberty any encroachment, for safety or otherwise, is going to cause pushback. And there is a growing feeling among some churches that the COVID regulations are being abused by some. You see the same feeling in pockets across the US. Canada took it one step farther by arresting a pastor over it and so tensions are higher. People like me look at that situation and find it incredible that a Pastor would be arrested--doing the very thing my church and many others have been doing the whole time--having worship in person.