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Post by Jocose » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:57 pm

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You won't or can't answer my questions, why?
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Post by Zed » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:01 pm

Jocose wrote:Zed

You won't or can't answer my questions, why?
I did. You didn't accept the answer. So I'm trying a different rout.

Do you honestly want an answer or are you picking a fight? If you want to pick a fight I can supply one. After all you fell once you can fall again. :twisted:
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Post by Jocose » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:05 pm

I am not picking a fight.

I ask again... sigh..

Are JW's and Mormons idiots or of low intelligence? No, they are not.

Like the jw and the mormon, cOB smokers are not idiots.

cOB smokers do though, take all criticism and call it hate.
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Post by hogleg » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:07 pm

Jocose wrote:Cob smokers do though, take all criticism and call it hate.
Actually, from what I've seen here, cob smokers take your criticism and call it hate. Consider that for a moment or two.
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Post by Zed » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:09 pm

Jocose wrote:I am not picking a fight.

I ask again... sigh..

Are JW's and Mormons idiots or of low intelligence? No, they are not.

Like the jw and the mormon, cOB smokers are not idiots.

cOB smokers do though, take all criticism and call it hate.
just cuz yer a hater doesn't mean all who criticize cobs are haters.

so do you really want to know? if so state your question again but be concise that I may give a concise answer.
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Post by Jocose » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:09 pm

There are many terrible attributes to the lowly cob, I will name only a few:

First issue, taste of the burning wood stem.
Second issue, taste of burning epoxy.
Third issue, taste of the burning/charred corn bowl.
Fourth issue, cheap, crappy, uncomfortable bits that easily break.
Fifth issue, bits that become either too loose or too tight.
Sixth issue, a pipe cleaner is almost impossible to use on those crap 'pinched' bent stems.
Seventh issue, the MAJOR condensation build up on the inferior stems.
Eighth issue, the bowls are way too small.
Ninth issue, the ugliness
Tenth issue, the rust that builds up on the stem/stummel connection.
Eleventh issue, no matter how "broke-in" it is, it still imparts a burnt corn flavor.
Twelfth issue, there is plaster in the bottom of the bowl.
Issue #13.. It's a Hillbilly souvenir/toy, not a real pipe.
Issue #14, I dont care who you are, you look funny while 'smoking' a cob.


So, I got to wondering, if a cob style pipe were to be built with a Briar bowl (or clay, meer, etc.) but came with a glued in wooden stem that was set into a bed of plaster, and if this so-called pipe imparted a charred/burnt taste, and used cheap inferior bits that were either too loose or too tight, it most certainly would be deemed a joke. But hey, put a piece of dried corn cob on the end and people think its the greatest thing ever ???
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Post by hogleg » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:15 pm

A question for you, Jocose --- why do you feel the need to needle a new comer on his very first post here about cobs? It is quite unbecoming. For you and the site.
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Post by Zed » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:15 pm

Jocose wrote:There are many terrible attributes to the lowly cob, I will name only a few:

First issue, taste of the burning wood stem.
Second issue, taste of burning epoxy.
Third issue, taste of the burning/charred corn bowl.
Fourth issue, cheap, crappy, uncomfortable bits that easily break.
Fifth issue, bits that become either too loose or too tight.
Sixth issue, a pipe cleaner is almost impossible to use on those crap 'pinched' bent stems.
Seventh issue, the MAJOR condensation build up on the inferior stems.
Eighth issue, the bowls are way too small.
Ninth issue, the ugliness
Tenth issue, the rust that builds up on the stem/stummel connection.
Eleventh issue, no matter how "broke-in" it is, it still imparts a burnt corn flavor.
Twelfth issue, there is plaster in the bottom of the bowl.
Issue #13.. It's a Hillbilly souvenir/toy, not a real pipe.
Issue #14, I dont care who you are, you look funny while 'smoking' a cob.


So, I got to wondering, if a cob style pipe were to be built with a Briar bowl (or clay, meer, etc.) but came with a glued in wooden stem that was set into a bed of plaster, and if this so-called pipe imparted a charred/burnt taste, and used cheap inferior bits that were either too loose or too tight, it most certainly would be deemed a joke. But hey, put a piece of dried corn cob on the end and people think its the greatest thing ever ???
this is not a concise question. it is the ramblings of an angry person.
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Post by Del » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:16 pm

Jocose wrote:Del, you said that when you were in college you burnt your tongue on crappy aromatics in a cOB and then quit.
My problem was that I was packing too tight. I didn't have anyone to show me.... and there was no internet.

I don't remember tongue bite. I enjoyed smoking, and bought several ounces of whatever the knob at Tinderbox recommended for three years. We could smoke in our dorm rooms then.

After college, I just sort of drifted in and out of the hobby. Every three to five years, I'd buy a couple of oz and smoke it, then drift away again.
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Post by hogleg » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:22 pm

Jocose wrote:Zed, with all due respect, nobody should EVER smoke a cOB or an aROMATIC.
Why? Because you say so? Feeling a bit superior, are you?
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Post by Zed » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:23 pm

Jocose wrote:There are many terrible attributes to the lowly cob, I will name only a few:

First issue, taste of the burning wood stem.
Second issue, taste of burning epoxy.
Third issue, taste of the burning/charred corn bowl.
Fourth issue, cheap, crappy, uncomfortable bits that easily break.
Fifth issue, bits that become either too loose or too tight.
Sixth issue, a pipe cleaner is almost impossible to use on those crap 'pinched' bent stems.
Seventh issue, the MAJOR condensation build up on the inferior stems.
Eighth issue, the bowls are way too small.
Ninth issue, the ugliness
Tenth issue, the rust that builds up on the stem/stummel connection.
Eleventh issue, no matter how "broke-in" it is, it still imparts a burnt corn flavor.
Twelfth issue, there is plaster in the bottom of the bowl.
Issue #13.. It's a Hillbilly souvenir/toy, not a real pipe.
Issue #14, I dont care who you are, you look funny while 'smoking' a cob.


So, I got to wondering, if a cob style pipe were to be built with a Briar bowl (or clay, meer, etc.) but came with a glued in wooden stem that was set into a bed of plaster, and if this so-called pipe imparted a charred/burnt taste, and used cheap inferior bits that were either too loose or too tight, it most certainly would be deemed a joke. But hey, put a piece of dried corn cob on the end and people think its the greatest thing ever ???
1. only happens during the first two smokes of the 4 smoke breaking in period. Briar takes a much longer breaking in period.

2. having smoked dozens of cobs i have never experienced this.

3. only happens during the first two smokes of the 4 smoke breaking in period. Briar takes a much longer breaking in period.

4. comfort is subjective. I personally don't think they are uncomfortable. as for cheap and breaking... $0.25 for a new one...so what?

5. same with briar.

6. use water

7. same with briar.

8. agreed, but often times a short smoke is welcomed. also helps to make expensive tobacco last longer. and hot burning tobacco is not so hot in a small bowl.

9. personal opinion. but I agree.

10. never had that.

11. not at all true.

12. that is pith not plaster.

13. bigot

14. again personal opinion that is not shared by all or even most people.
YEAH COBS

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Post by nosferatu » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:30 pm

Jocose wrote:I'm looking for the link that links all amateur pipe smokers together..

An amateur pipe smoker always, ALWAYS, will gravitate towards aromatics and cobs?

Why?
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Amateur... yeah... tell that to his face.

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Post by DepartedLight » Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:16 am

I love my cob. There are many like it, but this one is mine…

I started on a cob when I became serious about looking into piping because I had heard that one should not smoke various types of blends through the same briar pipe. However, one could do that through meerschaum or cob. I had no idea what was "my blend" (dating my pipe starting days back to when most guys smoked one blend and that was it) and I got a cob for less than 3 bucks. I worked in a pipe and cigar shop and tried everything I could in that cob. I smoked the poop out of it for 6 months or so before I got a nice small GBD as my first "English" pipe.

During my try anything and everything in my one and only cob time, I noticed the coloring and aging that occurs in a cob which made an older well smoked cob quite attractive to me. New cobs do look sort of dorky I do admit, but an aged well smoked one looks neat.

My tobacconist boss sold house blends from Lane and others, I never liked 1Q from the start. But there were a couple of other aromatics that I did like but it wasn't long before Mr. Latakia and I were introduced. My first bowl of Balkan Sobranie 759 was in that cob. I knew I liked it so when I got my first proper briar that's all I smoked in it. If I didn't cob it up, I doubt I would have stuck with the hobby due to price of materials for a younger guy with crummy jobs.

Cobs also made me appreciate a good quality briar. That first simple full bent GBD was a dream, a real beauty. I was able to discern the sweetening of the pipe over time because of my time with the cob.

Cobs aren't for everyone. But, they're not a bad place to start from or even to stay at. Had a bowl in my cob over the weekend, it was mighty fine.
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Post by Irish-Dane » Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:51 am

Zed wrote:
Jocose wrote:There are many terrible attributes to the lowly cob, I will name only a few:

First issue, taste of the burning wood stem.
Second issue, taste of burning epoxy.
Third issue, taste of the burning/charred corn bowl.
Fourth issue, cheap, crappy, uncomfortable bits that easily break.
Fifth issue, bits that become either too loose or too tight.
Sixth issue, a pipe cleaner is almost impossible to use on those crap 'pinched' bent stems.
Seventh issue, the MAJOR condensation build up on the inferior stems.
Eighth issue, the bowls are way too small.
Ninth issue, the ugliness
Tenth issue, the rust that builds up on the stem/stummel connection.
Eleventh issue, no matter how "broke-in" it is, it still imparts a burnt corn flavor.
Twelfth issue, there is plaster in the bottom of the bowl.
Issue #13.. It's a Hillbilly souvenir/toy, not a real pipe.
Issue #14, I dont care who you are, you look funny while 'smoking' a cob.


So, I got to wondering, if a cob style pipe were to be built with a Briar bowl (or clay, meer, etc.) but came with a glued in wooden stem that was set into a bed of plaster, and if this so-called pipe imparted a charred/burnt taste, and used cheap inferior bits that were either too loose or too tight, it most certainly would be deemed a joke. But hey, put a piece of dried corn cob on the end and people think its the greatest thing ever ???
1. only happens during the first two smokes of the 4 smoke breaking in period. Briar takes a much longer breaking in period.

2. having smoked dozens of cobs i have never experienced this.

3. only happens during the first two smokes of the 4 smoke breaking in period. Briar takes a much longer breaking in period.

4. comfort is subjective. I personally don't think they are uncomfortable. as for cheap and breaking... $0.25 for a new one...so what?

5. same with briar.

6. use water

7. same with briar.

8. agreed, but often times a short smoke is welcomed. also helps to make expensive tobacco last longer. and hot burning tobacco is not so hot in a small bowl.

9. personal opinion. but I agree.

10. never had that.

11. not at all true.

12. that is pith not plaster.

13. bigot

14. again personal opinion that is not shared by all or even most people.
The best post in this thread. Nice arguments on both sides. I give you both a sticker for your efforts.

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Post by DepartedLight » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:58 am

The number one reason not to be a Briarite:

You'll come down with a raging case of incurable Jocose breath.
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Post by Onyx » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:14 am

hogleg wrote:
Jocose wrote:The Novice smokes aROMATIC pipe tobacco and will defend the cOB.. Why?
The novice trashes others choices to justify his own choice in his own mind.
I go down on record as agreeing with hogleg.

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Post by Steverino » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:17 am

Zed wrote::D YEAH TOAST :D
That's what I'm talkin about.
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Post by Onyx » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:21 am

hogleg wrote:A question for you, Jocose --- why do you feel the need to needle a new comer on his very first post here about cobs? It is quite unbecoming. For you and the site.
Ok, my agreement with hogleg was shortlived. I'm impressed by the 12 points put forward by Jocose. They are not needling... they are telling it straight. I have cobs. I like them. They are cheap. They are nasty. That's what I like. I also like class. Cobs have none.
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Post by hoojoe » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:52 am

Little advice I was given when I started pipe smoking, "smoke what you like...".

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Post by TNLawPiper » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:06 am

james-owen wrote:I like my cob stem its soft unlike vulcanite.
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