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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by tuttle » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:45 pm

elimtaft wrote:
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That's a real bummer. I'm mostly an English blend guy, and Frog Morton is my 2nd favorite English blend. I know many people for whom that is their #1 favorite English blend.

I'd say it was my #1.


What's yer #1?


I'm on the look out for a new #1.
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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by UncleBob » Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:03 pm

Most all the Frog Morton blends are still available on SP.
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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by JimVH » Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:15 pm

FredS wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:30 pm
Irish-Dane wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:14 pm
Skip wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:01 pm
Jester wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:04 am
Skip wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:41 am
...and thus my largest tobacco order EVER at Smoking Pipes has been placed.
Give us the inside. What did you get?
Twenty 100g tins of FMOTT. It's the blend that made me fall in love with my pipe. I basically blew most of my annual tobacco budget, but it was with the wife's blessing.
How did you get away with 20 tins?!?! When I went to order there was a ten tin limit. Naturally I ordered ten, and a bunch of Cellar, Old Church, and a few random tins of Pal O' Mine because I seem to recall liking it. Definitely my most expensive SP order ever.
Town Topic and Best of Show are my two McClelland favs and P&C is out of both.
Best of Show was the first tinned tobacco I ever bought after venturing out from my local tobacconist's house blends. One fine aroma, right there.

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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by JMG » Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:33 pm

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Of course you'll have to get past smoking blends named 'Toad Mutton Late Evening in the City' and 'Toad Mutton Far Side of the Small Lake'.
I don't think I've ever read anything that made me laugh so hard and be so sad all at the same time.
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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by JMG » Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:36 pm

tuttle wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:45 pm
elimtaft wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:56 pm
That's a real bummer. I'm mostly an English blend guy, and Frog Morton is my 2nd favorite English blend. I know many people for whom that is their #1 favorite English blend.

I'd say it was my #1.


What's yer #1?


I'm on the look out for a new #1.
Not that it's my favorite English, and don't shoot me for saying this, but Sutliff's #5 ain't too shabby at all...especially for the price.
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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by Pepik » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:10 pm

Skip wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:41 am
...and thus my largest tobacco order EVER at Smoking Pipes has been placed.
Aaaayyup.
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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by Thunktank » Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:01 pm

I ordered a few tins of FMOTT.
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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by DAN » Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:27 pm

I'll miss them more on principle than anything else. I tried a lot of their stuff over the years, but the only things that ever really tripped my trigger were 2015 and--what was it? The Virginia flake with Turkish?--and even there, I couldn't really say their absence is just going to be earth-shattering for me.

If Cornell & Diehl shuts down before I die, I'm gonna be mad.

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Post by Thunktank » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:44 pm

I predict GL Pease will find inspiration from some of McCellands blends and come up with some future replacements. :pipe2:
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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by Goose55 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:13 pm

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I predict GL Pease will find inspiration from some of McCellands blends and come up with some future replacements. :pipe2:
I have thought this as well. Their Fog City Series case in point. If Pease can make those, he can make McClelland
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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by Thunktank » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:32 pm

Goose55 wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:13 pm
Thunktank wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:44 pm
I predict GL Pease will find inspiration from some of McCellands blends and come up with some future replacements. :pipe2:
I have thought this as well. Their Fog City Series case in point. If Pease can make those, he can make McClelland
We should start a rumor.
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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by Thunktank » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:32 pm

I’ve not kept up to date with the legislation, but hasn’t the FDA upended the entire industry? Isn’t that one of main reasons McClellend is shutting its doors? Surely they something of value. Curious.
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Post by ryland » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:56 pm

Thunktank wrote:I’ve not kept up to date with the legislation, but hasn’t the FDA upended the entire industry? Isn’t that one of main reasons McClellend is shutting its doors? Surely they something of value. Curious.
I think the dominoes are starting to fall.


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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by Irish-Dane » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:19 am

ryland wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:56 pm
Thunktank wrote:I’ve not kept up to date with the legislation, but hasn’t the FDA upended the entire industry? Isn’t that one of main reasons McClellend is shutting its doors? Surely they something of value. Curious.
I think the dominoes are starting to fall.
I haven't seen anyone post this yet...
I just got off the phone with Mary McNiel. I had left them a message earlier in the day and she was kind enough to call me back. Mary is undoubtedly one of the nicest (and most knowledgeable) people in the tobacco industry. We had a wide-ranging discussion on how the industry has changed over the past decade or so: The removal of government price supports, the farmer buyouts, the demise of the auction system, all of which has led to an overall decline in the quality, availability and diversity of tobacco available to McClelland. Then there's the FDA, and the great regulatory and financial burdens it will place on them. Up to a half million dollars to get all of their blends tested to meet FDA regulations. And if they suspend production of a blend (due to not having the right leaf available, as in the situation with 5100) they may not be able to resume production without going through the FDA approval process for new products.

In the end, Mary and Mike have made the decision to close their doors. The exact timing isn't known to them as of yet, as they are still tinning blends that they have in stock. But they do not foresee much, if any, additional production. "We look at the burdens that lie ahead with the FDA. What does the future hold?" Mary told me, "We're just going to close the doors".

Mary and Mike, I wish you the very best in your retirement. Move forward, knowing that you have brought over 40 years of happiness and pleasure to pipe smokers around the world. You will be missed, but you will always be deeply appreciated for bringing us extraordinary and unique blends, pipe tobacco like no one else makes, now and forever.
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Post by FredS » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:07 am

Tobacco, textiles/cotton, and coal. Seems the federal gov'ment doesn't care much for the livelihood of the southern working man.
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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by UncleBob » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:27 am

FredS wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:07 am
Tobacco, textiles/cotton, and coal. Seems the federal gov'ment doesn't care much for the livelihood of the southern working man.
Lots of cotton around here and the farmers are all dancing in the streets because cotton just got added again to the farm bill.
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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by FredS » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:24 am

UncleBob wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:27 am
FredS wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:07 am
Tobacco, textiles/cotton, and coal. Seems the federal gov'ment doesn't care much for the livelihood of the southern working man.
Lots of cotton around here and the farmers are all dancing in the streets because cotton just got added again to the farm bill.
Mayhaps I should have left cotton off the list.
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Post by sweetandsour » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:30 am

FredS wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:24 am
UncleBob wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:27 am
FredS wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:07 am
Tobacco, textiles/cotton, and coal. Seems the federal gov'ment doesn't care much for the livelihood of the southern working man.
Lots of cotton around here and the farmers are all dancing in the streets because cotton just got added again to the farm bill.
Mayhaps I should have left cotton off the list.
Also, Remington Arms filed for bankruptcy a week or 2 ago. But they're up north.
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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by UncleBob » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:31 am

FredS wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:24 am
UncleBob wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:27 am
FredS wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:07 am
Tobacco, textiles/cotton, and coal. Seems the federal gov'ment doesn't care much for the livelihood of the southern working man.
Lots of cotton around here and the farmers are all dancing in the streets because cotton just got added again to the farm bill.
Mayhaps I should have left cotton off the list.
Friendly policies keep US oil and coal afloat far more than we thought

Maybe the "southern working man" is misinformed.
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Re: McClelland Officially Going Out of Business...

Post by FredS » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:09 pm

UncleBob wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:31 am
FredS wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:24 am
UncleBob wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:27 am
FredS wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:07 am
Tobacco, textiles/cotton, and coal. Seems the federal gov'ment doesn't care much for the livelihood of the southern working man.
Lots of cotton around here and the farmers are all dancing in the streets because cotton just got added again to the farm bill.
Mayhaps I should have left cotton off the list.
Friendly policies keep US oil and coal afloat far more than we thought

Maybe the "southern working man" is misinformed.
Damit Bob. You're spoiling my narrative.
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