Thoughts on Pipe Packing

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Thoughts on Pipe Packing

Post by 7formy1911 » Wed May 20, 2009 8:15 am

I was contemplating the universe the other night while smoking and my thoughts strayed towards packing my pipe and how I do it a little differently for each pipe that I own. I know all of us have had trouble in the past with packing a pipe especially when we first began. Depending on the cut or form of the tobacco we all like to experiment although I've had good luck with the Frank method when it comes to ribbon or crimp cuts. Flakes, ropes and plugs are a whole different ball game so I won't be covering those here. In any case I like my pipes to have a very free draw with no constriction. I do have one pipe which is a Bjarne bent acorn that has a mildly restricted flow. This happened to be the pipe I was smoking when my thoughts came to pipe packing. I noticed that with the slightly restricted draw that the pipe wasn't as warm to the touch as my other pipes get and I was sipping the smoke more slowly than I do with my open draw pipes.

This is what came out of that contemplation:

1. With a free draw I noticed I tended to heat up the pipe since it was much easier to take a deeper draw.

2. If I pack my free draw pipes a little heavier than usual and *slightly* restrict the flow I sip a little slower and the pipe doesn't get anywhere near as hot.

3. As an added benefit I've noticed lighter flavors that were meant to come out of the tobacco and weren't "washed out" by the heat generated in the pipe.

Hardly earth shattering revelations but I thought I'd share them with you guys in case there are any new smokers that might find this helpful. Also, remember that it's just as easy to over pack your pipe and completely shut off your draw so that you're having to relight frequently.

For me pipe smoking has been a journey of self discovery and a delicate art as well. As an analytical person by trade it's actually nice to step away from "hard science" and enter in a hobby that I truly consider an art since each pipe smoker has different tastes and habits that cannot be covered at all by a single set of instructions.
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Post by FredS » Wed May 20, 2009 6:50 pm

I found dryer lint gives too much bite. Navel lint is better.
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Post by 7formy1911 » Thu May 21, 2009 3:59 am

FredS wrote:I found dryer lint gives too much bite. Navel lint is better.
You need to moisten it a little first... it'll take the edge off. :D
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Post by Steverino » Thu May 21, 2009 5:10 am

Good post, 7. It helps us all to keep the basics in mind. I think packing the pipe is probably the most enigmatic aspect of pipe smoking to me, as it seems like each different tobacco benefits from slightly different handling. Of course, I pack everything pretty much the same, so they don't get much benefit from me!

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Post by 7formy1911 » Thu May 21, 2009 5:24 am

Steverino wrote:Good post, 7. It helps us all to keep the basics in mind. I think packing the pipe is probably the most enigmatic aspect of pipe smoking to me, as it seems like each different tobacco benefits from slightly different handling. Of course, I pack everything pretty much the same, so they don't get much benefit from me!

Also, congrats to you guys - that was one of the quickest thread perversions I've seen on CPS.
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Post by IrishPiper » Thu May 21, 2009 8:02 am

7formy1911 wrote:
FredS wrote:I found dryer lint gives too much bite. Navel lint is better.
You need to moisten it a little first... it'll take the edge off. :D
Dryer lint cased with Bounce Outdoor Fresh - excellent aromatic. Although, yes, a bit of a bite. :lol:

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Re: Thoughts on Pipe Packing

Post by xenawarriorcat » Fri May 22, 2009 8:43 am

7formy1911 wrote:I was contemplating the universe the other night while smoking and my thoughts strayed towards packing my pipe...
Prologue

Respectfully, I eschew use of the word "pack" relative to pipes. Pack implies, esp. to the newguy, exactly what you don't want to do with a pipe. It conveys an intent to do more than you should and implies a haphazard methodology. The word pack should not be in the pipe lexicon. I promote use of the word fill. A pipe is filled, not packed.

Pack a lunch.
Pack a punch.
Fill a pipe.

If you start with the word fill rather than the word pack the process automatically becomes more thoughtful and more correct. There. I've said it.

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Post by Del » Fri May 22, 2009 9:58 am

7formy1911 wrote:
FredS wrote:I found dryer lint gives too much bite. Navel lint is better.
You need to moisten it a little first... it'll take the edge off. :D
Navel lint is still superior, because of its natural moisture content.
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Post by 7formy1911 » Fri May 22, 2009 3:30 pm

Del wrote:
7formy1911 wrote:
FredS wrote:I found dryer lint gives too much bite. Navel lint is better.
You need to moisten it a little first... it'll take the edge off. :D
Navel lint is still superior, because of its natural moisture content.
What about Naval lint??? Does it taste like squid?
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Post by DrPiper » Sat May 23, 2009 12:58 am

All kidding aside, I found that if I pack my pipe loose it is a better smoke but heats up fast as opposed to packing the pipe tight and drawing from it hard. I don't mind the heat as long as it's not much and doesn't take away from the smoke. Thats how I enjoy my pipe anyway...
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Re: Thoughts on Pipe Packing

Post by JudgeRusty » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:52 pm

So, all else being equal, a tighter pack leads to less heat in the chamber, as opposed to a looser pack?
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Re: Thoughts on Pipe Packing

Post by hugodrax » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:24 pm

JudgeRusty wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:52 pm
So, all else being equal, a tighter pack leads to less heat in the chamber, as opposed to a looser pack?
Not in my experience, Judge. But what do I know?
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Re: Thoughts on Pipe Packing

Post by JudgeRusty » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:48 pm

hugodrax wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:24 pm
JudgeRusty wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:52 pm
So, all else being equal, a tighter pack leads to less heat in the chamber, as opposed to a looser pack?
Not in my experience, Judge. But what do I know?
I have a few pipes that heat up rather quickly, a couple of them gifts that I would like to smoke in regular rotation, so I hope this discussion brings more ideas.
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Re: Thoughts on Pipe Packing

Post by hugodrax » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:57 pm

JudgeRusty wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:48 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:24 pm
JudgeRusty wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:52 pm
So, all else being equal, a tighter pack leads to less heat in the chamber, as opposed to a looser pack?
Not in my experience, Judge. But what do I know?
I have a few pipes that heat up rather quickly, a couple of them gifts that I would like to smoke in regular rotation, so I hope this discussion brings more ideas.
I’ve had wonderful luck with a couple of poor smokers by smoking the crud out of them, non stop, for a matter of 7-15 days. Cleaning them, of course, but just forcing them to break in. It’s painful, but it works.

Slowtoke is an engineering man and his ideas have caught my notice in the past. He thinks correctly redrilling fixes everything but poor briar curing. He’s probably right. I think my smoke the shizz out of it method only works on poorly cured briar.
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Re: Thoughts on Pipe Packing

Post by Joshoowah » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:28 pm

JudgeRusty wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:48 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:24 pm
JudgeRusty wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:52 pm
So, all else being equal, a tighter pack leads to less heat in the chamber, as opposed to a looser pack?
Not in my experience, Judge. But what do I know?
I have a few pipes that heat up rather quickly, a couple of them gifts that I would like to smoke in regular rotation, so I hope this discussion brings more ideas.
What type of cut are you using in those pipes? Different cuts require different packs.
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Re: Thoughts on Pipe Packing

Post by 7formy1911 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:51 pm

Joshoowah wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:28 pm
JudgeRusty wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:48 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:24 pm
JudgeRusty wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:52 pm
So, all else being equal, a tighter pack leads to less heat in the chamber, as opposed to a looser pack?
Not in my experience, Judge. But what do I know?
I have a few pipes that heat up rather quickly, a couple of them gifts that I would like to smoke in regular rotation, so I hope this discussion brings more ideas.
What type of cut are you using in those pipes? Different cuts require different packs.
Honestly when it comes down to it each pipe has a different personality, so to speak, and has to be treated accordingly. Some smoke hot, others cool, some have an easy draw and others more difficult. You add those variables along with the tobacco variables of cut, leaf varietal and moisture content and you've entered into a world of infinite variation which is precisely the reason we all enjoy this hobby so much.
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Post by UncleBob » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:06 pm

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Re: Thoughts on Pipe Packing

Post by TNLawPiper » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:18 am

I adopt the wosbald method for all tobacco types.

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