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Re: Upshall

Post by JudgeRusty » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:57 am

Rusty wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:19 am
How about showing us a pic of your B?
I did-4/8/17 2pm. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8800
Here it is again; I do not tire of looking at it.
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I was searching about online for info and found a pipe/tobacco forum that was discussing Upshall. Ken Barnes actually joined into the discussion and dated the FH introduction and credited (blamed) Barry Jones with that innovation.
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Re: Upshall

Post by UncleBob » Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:03 am

JudgeRusty wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:57 am
Rusty wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:19 am
How about showing us a pic of your B?
I did-4/8/17 2pm. viewtopic.php?f=20&t=8800
Here it is again; I do not tire of looking at it.
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I was searching about online for info and found a pipe/tobacco forum that was discussing Upshall. Ken Barnes actually joined into the discussion and dated the FH introduction and credited (blamed) Barry Jones with that innovation.
That is a fine-looking pipe, right there.
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Re: Upshall

Post by hugodrax » Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:05 pm

Yow. That's something. Look at that bowl. Look at that stem.

I have to go now.
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Re: Upshall

Post by JudgeRusty » Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:34 pm

Now I am on a mission to find an Upshall in a Lumberman, Liverpool or Canadian.
Rusty wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:19 am
Don't exclude the Astley branded pipes in your hunt. They're usually Upshalls too (or if they're earlier then they're quite likely made by Charatan or Dunhill).
One of the nice things about Upshall (and this derives from Charatan too) is that the wood weighs in even with classical shapes. So longer shanks occur quite often (Liverpool/Lovat, Canadian/Lumberman but also other shapes) and they will also employ some cant to the bowl. Nice variations if you're not a petrified conservative.
This may be the wrong thread, but I will post elsewhere when I receive the pipe. I pulled the trigger on an eBay estate today in a Canadian shape.

The poor photography and low price made me a bit nervous, but after a bit of research online and reading vintage Rusty posts, I have less buyer's remorse (at least until it arrives).

I think I purchased a mid 1960s Lane era pipe; it is a Charatan's Make Special 402.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHARATAN-039-S- ... true&rt=nc
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Re: Upshall

Post by durangopipe » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:02 pm

JudgeRusty wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:34 pm
Now I am on a mission to find an Upshall in a Lumberman, Liverpool or Canadian.
Rusty wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:19 am
Don't exclude the Astley branded pipes in your hunt. They're usually Upshalls too (or if they're earlier then they're quite likely made by Charatan or Dunhill).
One of the nice things about Upshall (and this derives from Charatan too) is that the wood weighs in even with classical shapes. So longer shanks occur quite often (Liverpool/Lovat, Canadian/Lumberman but also other shapes) and they will also employ some cant to the bowl. Nice variations if you're not a petrified conservative.
This may be the wrong thread, but I will post elsewhere when I receive the pipe. I pulled the trigger on an eBay estate today in a Canadian shape.

The poor photography and low price made me a bit nervous, but after a bit of research online and reading vintage Rusty posts, I have less buyer's remorse (at least until it arrives).

I think I purchased a mid 1960s Lane era pipe; it is a Charatan's Make Special 402.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHARATAN-039-S- ... true&rt=nc
Holy cow - sweet pipe!
Fantastic deal.

Congratulations.
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Re: Upshall

Post by JudgeRusty » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:29 pm

durangopipe wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:02 pm
JudgeRusty wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:34 pm
Now I am on a mission to find an Upshall in a Lumberman, Liverpool or Canadian.
Rusty wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:19 am
Don't exclude the Astley branded pipes in your hunt. They're usually Upshalls too (or if they're earlier then they're quite likely made by Charatan or Dunhill).
One of the nice things about Upshall (and this derives from Charatan too) is that the wood weighs in even with classical shapes. So longer shanks occur quite often (Liverpool/Lovat, Canadian/Lumberman but also other shapes) and they will also employ some cant to the bowl. Nice variations if you're not a petrified conservative.
This may be the wrong thread, but I will post elsewhere when I receive the pipe. I pulled the trigger on an eBay estate today in a Canadian shape.

The poor photography and low price made me a bit nervous, but after a bit of research online and reading vintage Rusty posts, I have less buyer's remorse (at least until it arrives).

I think I purchased a mid 1960s Lane era pipe; it is a Charatan's Make Special 402.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHARATAN-039-S- ... true&rt=nc
Holy cow - sweet pipe!
Fantastic deal.
Congratulations.
I hope you're right.
We shall see.
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Re: Upshall

Post by JudgeRusty » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:35 pm

JudgeRusty wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:29 pm
durangopipe wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:02 pm
JudgeRusty wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:34 pm
Now I am on a mission to find an Upshall in a Lumberman, Liverpool or Canadian.
Rusty wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:19 am
Don't exclude the Astley branded pipes in your hunt. They're usually Upshalls too (or if they're earlier then they're quite likely made by Charatan or Dunhill).
One of the nice things about Upshall (and this derives from Charatan too) is that the wood weighs in even with classical shapes. So longer shanks occur quite often (Liverpool/Lovat, Canadian/Lumberman but also other shapes) and they will also employ some cant to the bowl. Nice variations if you're not a petrified conservative.
This may be the wrong thread, but I will post elsewhere when I receive the pipe. I pulled the trigger on an eBay estate today in a Canadian shape.

The poor photography and low price made me a bit nervous, but after a bit of research online and reading vintage Rusty posts, I have less buyer's remorse (at least until it arrives).

I think I purchased a mid 1960s Lane era pipe; it is a Charatan's Make Special 402.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHARATAN-039-S- ... true&rt=nc
Holy cow - sweet pipe!
Fantastic deal.
Congratulations.
I hope you're right.
We shall see.
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Re: Upshall

Post by Rusty » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:19 pm

JudgeRusty wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:34 pm
Now I am on a mission to find an Upshall in a Lumberman, Liverpool or Canadian.
Rusty wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:19 am
Don't exclude the Astley branded pipes in your hunt. They're usually Upshalls too (or if they're earlier then they're quite likely made by Charatan or Dunhill).
One of the nice things about Upshall (and this derives from Charatan too) is that the wood weighs in even with classical shapes. So longer shanks occur quite often (Liverpool/Lovat, Canadian/Lumberman but also other shapes) and they will also employ some cant to the bowl. Nice variations if you're not a petrified conservative.
This may be the wrong thread, but I will post elsewhere when I receive the pipe. I pulled the trigger on an eBay estate today in a Canadian shape.

The poor photography and low price made me a bit nervous, but after a bit of research online and reading vintage Rusty posts, I have less buyer's remorse (at least until it arrives).

I think I purchased a mid 1960s Lane era pipe; it is a Charatan's Make Special 402.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHARATAN-039-S- ... true&rt=nc
Nice Special. The cross-grain was very typical of the grade. It's very hard to go wrong with these. I used to marvel at large displays of these when they were new on retailer walls. You should see what Dunhill asks for that grade now! 8O
You might also try a dilute solution of Murphy's wood soap to see if you can remove some of handling dirt that makes it rather dark. These were quite a bit lighter coloured than they appear for both your B Upshall and this Special.
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Re: Upshall

Post by A_Morley » Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:46 pm

I normally would mourn the passing of any established British pipe maker, but I never knew Upshall to make a small pipe. This was enough to ensure that I never bought one.
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Re: Upshall

Post by qmechanics » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:03 am

Hi
I bought a new Wiley Ovation W5 at auction from Karen. She is really nice lady who told me the pipe was part of her late husband's ( Moty Ezrati) collection. Apparently Moty Ezrati was quite the pipe collector. Karen was selling off Upshall as well as her husband's other pipes.
At the time I was not sure how Wiley Ovations were graded.After communications with Randy, he told me that the pipe was his highest grade (W5) of his top end (Ovation) line with maybe (Randy was not 100% sure of the number)13 W5 graded Ovations made over the years. It is a beautiful pipe with a colorful history. I could not be more pleased.

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Re: Upshall

Post by Jocose » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:44 pm

A_Morley wrote:
Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:46 pm
I normally would mourn the passing of any established British pipe maker, but I never knew Upshall to make a small pipe. This was enough to ensure that I never bought one.
Exactamundo.

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Re: Upshall

Post by Goose55 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:34 am

I did not know Upshall Pipes were no more. I got this new old stock large bent Tilshead Billiard a few months ago and I love it...

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Re: Upshall

Post by Jocose » Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:47 am

Goose55 wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:34 am
I did not know Upshall Pipes were no more. I got this new old stock large bent Tilshead Billiard a few months ago and I love it...

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I cut one up that was similar to this.
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Re: Upshall

Post by Goose55 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 12:53 pm

Jocose wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:47 am
Goose55 wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:34 am
I did not know Upshall Pipes were no more. I got this new old stock large bent Tilshead Billiard a few months ago and I love it...

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I cut one up that was similar to this.
And why?
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Re: Upshall

Post by JudgeRusty » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:18 pm

Goose55 wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:34 am
I did not know Upshall Pipes were no more. I got this new old stock large bent Tilshead Billiard a few months ago and I love it...
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This is hard to accept considering the number of Upshalls you have put in and out of commerce for some time now. I treasure my three and hope to obtain a few more; the Barry Jones work should be respected in his mastery of the traditional shapes.
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Re: Upshall

Post by Goose55 » Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:10 pm

JudgeRusty wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:18 pm
Goose55 wrote:
Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:34 am
I did not know Upshall Pipes were no more. I got this new old stock large bent Tilshead Billiard a few months ago and I love it...
Image
This is hard to accept considering the number of Upshalls you have put in and out of commerce for some time now. I treasure my three and hope to obtain a few more; the Barry Jones work should be respected in his mastery of the traditional shapes.
Its what I like about this Tilshead. It's simply elegant
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