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Post by fisherofpipes » Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:24 am

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I believe Jerry's favorite everyday food was McDonalds. Probably not the best diet for a diabetic...
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Post by fisherofpipes » Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:56 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VF1eVtaoks

This will be different, but the open-minded may want to at least click. Audio only, probably some profanity, but don't remember anything really vulgar about the acid-test audios, just weird. It's part of Dead history...
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Post by JimVH » Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:32 am

UncleBob wrote:I have never done illicit drugs so the soulful subtleties of the Grateful Dead have always eluded me.
I never got it, either. I honestly don't think I could name a single song they recorded.

But then, I shouldn't judge. I'm a big Junior Brown fan and he escapes most people, too.

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Post by fisherofpipes » Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:38 am

JimVH wrote:
UncleBob wrote:I have never done illicit drugs so the soulful subtleties of the Grateful Dead have always eluded me.
I never got it, either. I honestly don't think I could name a single song they recorded.

But then, I shouldn't judge. I'm a big Junior Brown fan and he escapes most people, too.
They didn't all do drugs, and the ones that did didn't do all the drugs. Pigpen (Ron Mc Kernon, original lead singer and keyboards) was a whiskey man, and LSD terrified him. Bob Weir was pretty clean-living. Jerry stuck to pot, and did a few LSD experiments, but later on sadly turned to heroin. Phil I think was at times anything goes. Can't remember about the two drummers. Keyboard players (Dead keyboard players dropped off like Spinal Tap drummers) were I believe a mix.

Also, when the Dead formed, LSD was not illegal...

Do remember that Mickey Hart was a karate master, and Tom Constanten (briefly the keyboard player) was military, and I believe pretty toxin-free.

Tom Constanten, BTW, is the only former member I have ever met. He is a bit peculiar, and likes to speak to random people in Hungarian. :? :?
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Post by fisherofpipes » Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:40 am

JimVH wrote:
UncleBob wrote:I have never done illicit drugs so the soulful subtleties of the Grateful Dead have always eluded me.
I never got it, either. I honestly don't think I could name a single song they recorded.

But then, I shouldn't judge. I'm a big Junior Brown fan and he escapes most people, too.
And Jim:

You could name lots of songs they recorded if you knew how many covers they recorded... :wink:
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Post by Irish-Dane » Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:46 am

fisherofpipes wrote:
JimVH wrote:
UncleBob wrote:I have never done illicit drugs so the soulful subtleties of the Grateful Dead have always eluded me.
I never got it, either. I honestly don't think I could name a single song they recorded.

But then, I shouldn't judge. I'm a big Junior Brown fan and he escapes most people, too.
They didn't all do drugs, and the ones that did didn't do all the drugs. Pigpen (Ron Mc Kernon, original lead singer and keyboards) was a whiskey man, and LSD terrified him. Bob Weir was pretty clean-living. Jerry stuck to pot, and did a few LSD experiments, but later on sadly turned to heroin. Phil I think was at times anything goes. Can't remember about the two drummers. Keyboard players (Dead keyboard players dropped off like Spinal Tap drummers) were I believe a mix.

Also, when the Dead formed, LSD was not illegal...
Drummers rarely make it long and often are the least known members. Of course there are exceptions, but I bet most people can't name 10 or more drummers from high profile bands. I can, and most other drummers can too, but few others retain that info. Compare that to singers and guitarists. Even if you've never been a musician, most people can name a lot of members from those two groups.
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Post by fisherofpipes » Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:11 pm

Irish-Dane wrote:
fisherofpipes wrote:
JimVH wrote:
UncleBob wrote:I have never done illicit drugs so the soulful subtleties of the Grateful Dead have always eluded me.
I never got it, either. I honestly don't think I could name a single song they recorded.

But then, I shouldn't judge. I'm a big Junior Brown fan and he escapes most people, too.
They didn't all do drugs, and the ones that did didn't do all the drugs. Pigpen (Ron Mc Kernon, original lead singer and keyboards) was a whiskey man, and LSD terrified him. Bob Weir was pretty clean-living. Jerry stuck to pot, and did a few LSD experiments, but later on sadly turned to heroin. Phil I think was at times anything goes. Can't remember about the two drummers. Keyboard players (Dead keyboard players dropped off like Spinal Tap drummers) were I believe a mix.

Also, when the Dead formed, LSD was not illegal...
Drummers rarely make it long and often are the least known members. Of course there are exceptions, but I bet most people can't name 10 or more drummers from high profile bands. I can, and most other drummers can too, but few others retain that info. Compare that to singers and guitarists. Even if you've never been a musician, most people can name a lot of members from those two groups.
Funny how the Dead's two drummers were the most sane and stable band members. It was the keyboard players with them...
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Post by fisherofpipes » Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:29 pm

coco wrote:
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UncleBob wrote:I have never done illicit drugs so the soulful subtleties of the Grateful Dead have always eluded me.
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Post by UncleBob » Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:54 pm

fisherofpipes wrote:
JimVH wrote:
UncleBob wrote:I have never done illicit drugs so the soulful subtleties of the Grateful Dead have always eluded me.
I never got it, either. I honestly don't think I could name a single song they recorded.

But then, I shouldn't judge. I'm a big Junior Brown fan and he escapes most people, too.
They didn't all do drugs, and the ones that did didn't do all the drugs. Pigpen (Ron Mc Kernon, original lead singer and keyboards) was a whiskey man, and LSD terrified him. Bob Weir was pretty clean-living. Jerry stuck to pot, and did a few LSD experiments, but later on sadly turned to heroin. Phil I think was at times anything goes. Can't remember about the two drummers. Keyboard players (Dead keyboard players dropped off like Spinal Tap drummers) were I believe a mix.

Also, when the Dead formed, LSD was not illegal...

Do remember that Mickey Hart was a karate master, and Tom Constanten (briefly the keyboard player) was military, and I believe pretty toxin-free.

Tom Constanten, BTW, is the only former member I have ever met. He is a bit peculiar, and likes to speak to random people in Hungarian. :? :?
I'm talking about those who listen to their music. Drugs seem to be required to "get it".
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Post by coco » Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:14 pm

UncleBob wrote:
fisherofpipes wrote:
JimVH wrote:
UncleBob wrote:I have never done illicit drugs so the soulful subtleties of the Grateful Dead have always eluded me.
I never got it, either. I honestly don't think I could name a single song they recorded.

But then, I shouldn't judge. I'm a big Junior Brown fan and he escapes most people, too.
They didn't all do drugs, and the ones that did didn't do all the drugs. Pigpen (Ron Mc Kernon, original lead singer and keyboards) was a whiskey man, and LSD terrified him. Bob Weir was pretty clean-living. Jerry stuck to pot, and did a few LSD experiments, but later on sadly turned to heroin. Phil I think was at times anything goes. Can't remember about the two drummers. Keyboard players (Dead keyboard players dropped off like Spinal Tap drummers) were I believe a mix.

Also, when the Dead formed, LSD was not illegal...

Do remember that Mickey Hart was a karate master, and Tom Constanten (briefly the keyboard player) was military, and I believe pretty toxin-free.

Tom Constanten, BTW, is the only former member I have ever met. He is a bit peculiar, and likes to speak to random people in Hungarian. :? :?
I'm talking about those who listen to their music. Drugs seem to be required to "get it".
I've never done drugs.
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Post by UncleBob » Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:15 pm

coco wrote:
UncleBob wrote:
fisherofpipes wrote:
JimVH wrote:
UncleBob wrote:I have never done illicit drugs so the soulful subtleties of the Grateful Dead have always eluded me.
I never got it, either. I honestly don't think I could name a single song they recorded.

But then, I shouldn't judge. I'm a big Junior Brown fan and he escapes most people, too.
They didn't all do drugs, and the ones that did didn't do all the drugs. Pigpen (Ron Mc Kernon, original lead singer and keyboards) was a whiskey man, and LSD terrified him. Bob Weir was pretty clean-living. Jerry stuck to pot, and did a few LSD experiments, but later on sadly turned to heroin. Phil I think was at times anything goes. Can't remember about the two drummers. Keyboard players (Dead keyboard players dropped off like Spinal Tap drummers) were I believe a mix.

Also, when the Dead formed, LSD was not illegal...

Do remember that Mickey Hart was a karate master, and Tom Constanten (briefly the keyboard player) was military, and I believe pretty toxin-free.

Tom Constanten, BTW, is the only former member I have ever met. He is a bit peculiar, and likes to speak to random people in Hungarian. :? :?
I'm talking about those who listen to their music. Drugs seem to be required to "get it".
I've never done drugs.
That is just what a junkie would say.
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Post by coco » Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:15 pm

UncleBob wrote:
coco wrote:
UncleBob wrote:
fisherofpipes wrote:
JimVH wrote:
UncleBob wrote:I have never done illicit drugs so the soulful subtleties of the Grateful Dead have always eluded me.
I never got it, either. I honestly don't think I could name a single song they recorded.

But then, I shouldn't judge. I'm a big Junior Brown fan and he escapes most people, too.
They didn't all do drugs, and the ones that did didn't do all the drugs. Pigpen (Ron Mc Kernon, original lead singer and keyboards) was a whiskey man, and LSD terrified him. Bob Weir was pretty clean-living. Jerry stuck to pot, and did a few LSD experiments, but later on sadly turned to heroin. Phil I think was at times anything goes. Can't remember about the two drummers. Keyboard players (Dead keyboard players dropped off like Spinal Tap drummers) were I believe a mix.

Also, when the Dead formed, LSD was not illegal...

Do remember that Mickey Hart was a karate master, and Tom Constanten (briefly the keyboard player) was military, and I believe pretty toxin-free.

Tom Constanten, BTW, is the only former member I have ever met. He is a bit peculiar, and likes to speak to random people in Hungarian. :? :?
I'm talking about those who listen to their music. Drugs seem to be required to "get it".
I've never done drugs.
That is just what a junkie would say.
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Post by UncleBob » Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:52 pm

coco wrote:
UncleBob wrote:
coco wrote:
UncleBob wrote:
fisherofpipes wrote:
JimVH wrote:
UncleBob wrote:I have never done illicit drugs so the soulful subtleties of the Grateful Dead have always eluded me.
I never got it, either. I honestly don't think I could name a single song they recorded.

But then, I shouldn't judge. I'm a big Junior Brown fan and he escapes most people, too.
They didn't all do drugs, and the ones that did didn't do all the drugs. Pigpen (Ron Mc Kernon, original lead singer and keyboards) was a whiskey man, and LSD terrified him. Bob Weir was pretty clean-living. Jerry stuck to pot, and did a few LSD experiments, but later on sadly turned to heroin. Phil I think was at times anything goes. Can't remember about the two drummers. Keyboard players (Dead keyboard players dropped off like Spinal Tap drummers) were I believe a mix.

Also, when the Dead formed, LSD was not illegal...

Do remember that Mickey Hart was a karate master, and Tom Constanten (briefly the keyboard player) was military, and I believe pretty toxin-free.

Tom Constanten, BTW, is the only former member I have ever met. He is a bit peculiar, and likes to speak to random people in Hungarian. :? :?
I'm talking about those who listen to their music. Drugs seem to be required to "get it".
I've never done drugs.
That is just what a junkie would say.
:lol:
Here is a test: If you see a dancing taco anywhere in this response, you need to cut back on the Grateful Dead.

:taco:
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Post by fisherofpipes » Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:14 pm

UncleBob wrote:
fisherofpipes wrote:
JimVH wrote:
UncleBob wrote:I have never done illicit drugs so the soulful subtleties of the Grateful Dead have always eluded me.
I never got it, either. I honestly don't think I could name a single song they recorded.

But then, I shouldn't judge. I'm a big Junior Brown fan and he escapes most people, too.
They didn't all do drugs, and the ones that did didn't do all the drugs. Pigpen (Ron Mc Kernon, original lead singer and keyboards) was a whiskey man, and LSD terrified him. Bob Weir was pretty clean-living. Jerry stuck to pot, and did a few LSD experiments, but later on sadly turned to heroin. Phil I think was at times anything goes. Can't remember about the two drummers. Keyboard players (Dead keyboard players dropped off like Spinal Tap drummers) were I believe a mix.

Also, when the Dead formed, LSD was not illegal...

Do remember that Mickey Hart was a karate master, and Tom Constanten (briefly the keyboard player) was military, and I believe pretty toxin-free.

Tom Constanten, BTW, is the only former member I have ever met. He is a bit peculiar, and likes to speak to random people in Hungarian. :? :?
I'm talking about those who listen to their music. Drugs seem to be required to "get it".
Though there were lots of drugs at Dead shows, not true. Many drs/lawyers, other professionals. In the early days, maybe more, but in say the 90s, one could sometimes not even smell pot in the parking lot. Sure, half the people there might have been stoned, but the police payed special attention, so those people just smoked it on the way to the show.

I really don't think any of their music requires drugs to "get it," any more than Mahler's music would.
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Post by UncleBob » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:17 pm

fisherofpipes wrote: Though there were lots of drugs at Dead shows, not true. Many drs/lawyers, other professionals. In the early days, maybe more, but in say the 90s, one could sometimes not even smell pot in the parking lot. Sure, half the people there might have been stoned, but the police payed special attention, so those people just smoked it on the way to the show.

I really don't think any of their music requires drugs to "get it," any more than Mahler's music would.
Do you see the dancing TACO? Well, do you?

:taco:

In other words, your argument is invalid because TACO.

That is all.
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Post by fisherofpipes » Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:42 pm

UncleBob wrote:
fisherofpipes wrote: Though there were lots of drugs at Dead shows, not true. Many drs/lawyers, other professionals. In the early days, maybe more, but in say the 90s, one could sometimes not even smell pot in the parking lot. Sure, half the people there might have been stoned, but the police payed special attention, so those people just smoked it on the way to the show.

I really don't think any of their music requires drugs to "get it," any more than Mahler's music would.
Do you see the dancing TACO? Well, do you?

:taco:

In other words, your argument is invalid because TACO.

That is all.
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Post by Jocose » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:23 am

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