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Woodworking, good grief!

Post by Hovannes » Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:59 pm

I had a few small projects in mind. I haven't done any wood working in quite a few years since my band saw, drill press and miter saw wore out.
I toyed with a few handsaws I picked up at junk stores and swap meets, mostly out of curiosity and cheap thrills, cleaned them up and found them, well, fun!
I recently replaced the band saw, drill press and miter saw and even dragged out some classic old hand tools out of the garage to restore and possibly use, so I went to YouTube and searched wood working videos to learn how to restore old woodworking tools..
Oh. my!
What a rabbit hole I've fallen into! 8O
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

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Hovannes wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:59 pm
I had a few small projects in mind. I haven't done any wood working in quite a few years since my band saw, drill press and miter saw wore out.
I toyed with a few handsaws I picked up at junk stores and swap meets, mostly out of curiosity and cheap thrills, cleaned them up and found them, well, fun!
I recently replaced the band saw, drill press and miter saw and even dragged out some classic old hand tools out of the garage to restore and possibly use, so I went to YouTube and searched wood working videos to learn how to restore old woodworking tools..
Oh. my!
What a rabbit hole I've fallen into! 8O
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by FredS » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:11 am

What sorts of projects are you thinking about?
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by Hovannes » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:33 am

FredS wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:11 am
What sorts of projects are you thinking about?
A folding neck tie rack is how this started. I had a circa 1930s-1940s one made out of celluloid that finally broke and couldn't be repaired so I wanted to replace it with wood.
Then one thing led to another,
and Paul Sellers and Rex Kreuger showed up :facepalm:
I found a piece of flat granite countertop that's been sitting outside that I want to clean up and use for sharpening chisels and plane irons,
Then I'll need a mallet for the chisels
And a work bench
And a leg vise
And a.... :egor:
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by Jocose » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:05 pm

Hovannes wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:33 am
FredS wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:11 am
What sorts of projects are you thinking about?
A folding neck tie rack is how this started. I had a circa 1930s-1940s one made out of celluloid that finally broke and couldn't be repaired so I wanted to replace it with wood.
Then one thing led to another,
and Paul Sellers and Rex Kreuger showed up :facepalm:
I found a piece of flat granite countertop that's been sitting outside that I want to clean up and use for sharpening chisels and plane irons,
Then I'll need a mallet for the chisels
And a work bench
And a leg vise
And a.... :egor:
I want one too.
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by FredS » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:23 pm

Jocose wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:05 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:33 am
FredS wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:11 am
What sorts of projects are you thinking about?
A folding neck tie rack is how this started. I had a circa 1930s-1940s one made out of celluloid that finally broke and couldn't be repaired so I wanted to replace it with wood.
Then one thing led to another,
and Paul Sellers and Rex Kreuger showed up :facepalm:
I found a piece of flat granite countertop that's been sitting outside that I want to clean up and use for sharpening chisels and plane irons,
Then I'll need a mallet for the chisels
And a work bench
And a leg vise
And a.... :egor:
I want one too.
You two should get together and make some. One guy makes the wood parts, one makes the metal.
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by Hovannes » Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:19 pm

I may have found a lead on some auger bits for my brace :chili:
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by Hovannes » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:32 pm

Sharpening chisels and plane irons are a big part of the program. There are a few ways to do this but most involve putting together a sharpening station of flat glass or stone for sandpaper, or something like MDF for diamond plates or stones.
I found a cigar box or old stones, but I have no idea what grit they are, I also have a scrap of granite countertop that's rough on two sides.
So sharpening with sand paper it will be for now, but I need to make straight the two sides so out comes my tile saw with a diamond blade.

One side cut smoothly :D but 6" shy of the other side she stopped cutting. The diamond blade is dulls-ville.
I had used this blade quite a bit before putting the saw away, so it doesn't surprise me, but :poop: now I should get a new diamond saw blade and they ain't cheap.
For 6" of granite.
To make it more distasteful, this is my last piece of stone, so it is doubtful I'll be cutting any more of anything requiring a diamond blade.

Maybe Harbor Freight has a deal with a coupon so I can get this disaster off our patio table :(
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by FredS » Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:49 am

Hovannes wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:32 pm
Sharpening chisels and plane irons are a big part of the program . . . I found a cigar box or old stones, but I have no idea what grit they are,
Ya use what ya got. Surely you can sort them coarse, medium, fine. Or even just coarse and fine.
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by JMG » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:16 pm

FredS wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:49 am
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:32 pm
Sharpening chisels and plane irons are a big part of the program . . . I found a cigar box or old stones, but I have no idea what grit they are,
Ya use what ya got. Surely you can sort them coarse, medium, fine. Or even just coarse and fine.
I've gone to using just a plane of glass with various grit sandpaper. Maybe some compound on a cloth at the end. Does a fair job.
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by FredS » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:25 pm

JMG wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:16 pm
FredS wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:49 am
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:32 pm
Sharpening chisels and plane irons are a big part of the program . . . I found a cigar box or old stones, but I have no idea what grit they are,
Ya use what ya got. Surely you can sort them coarse, medium, fine. Or even just coarse and fine.
I've gone to using just a plane of glass with various grit sandpaper. Maybe some compound on a cloth at the end. Does a fair job.
I have a 12x12x2 grade A granite plate that's fantastic for honing tools or sanding dead flat surfaces on metal or wood. I think I only paid about $60 for it 15 or 20 years ago. That's certainly more than a recycled pane of glass or counter top but it's handy. Thing probably weighs 40-50lbs so it doesn't move around when I'm working on it. Truth be told though, I'm not a guy who keeps his woodworking tools hair-popping sharp. I'm more of a those-burrs-the-belt-grinder-leaves-act-like-really-fine-teeth-and-cut-good-enough kind of guy.
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by JMG » Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:50 pm

FredS wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:25 pm
JMG wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:16 pm
FredS wrote:
Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:49 am
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:32 pm
Sharpening chisels and plane irons are a big part of the program . . . I found a cigar box or old stones, but I have no idea what grit they are,
Ya use what ya got. Surely you can sort them coarse, medium, fine. Or even just coarse and fine.
I've gone to using just a plane of glass with various grit sandpaper. Maybe some compound on a cloth at the end. Does a fair job.
I have a 12x12x2 grade A granite plate that's fantastic for honing tools or sanding dead flat surfaces on metal or wood. I think I only paid about $60 for it 15 or 20 years ago. That's certainly more than a recycled pane of glass or counter top but it's handy. Thing probably weighs 40-50lbs so it doesn't move around when I'm working on it. Truth be told though, I'm not a guy who keeps his woodworking tools hair-popping sharp. I'm more of a those-burrs-the-belt-grinder-leaves-act-like-really-fine-teeth-and-cut-good-enough kind of guy.
I haven’t gotten anywhere near the skill level that requires those crazy sharp, mirror polished finishes, but I find sharpening a really relaxing thing to do...especially at night after everyone else goes to bed.
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by Hovannes » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:11 pm

I went to two Harbor Freights and between the two there was only one 4-1/2" diamond saw blade left for $27 8O
i went home, reinstalled the old dull blade and took it real slow and had a few kick backs, but
it finished the cut :D
Then I threw that old blade away.
My 16"x12"x1" granite tile is ready for work :chili:
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by Hovannes » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:40 pm

I found two planes in the garage, a Stanley Bailey #5 and a smaller plane which I assumed was an incarnation of a #4.
Since #4s are the darlings of internet woodworking blogs, I opted the restore the #4-oid first.
Yikes! 8O
There is no name and the only foundry marks are a 5, and 8, a U in a circle and Made in the USA
The frog is stamped sheet metal held on with two screws, but the proper sized screwdriver blade for those screws do not fit in the slots in the frog---I had to use a cabinet screwdriver for the job. Fortunately it didn't booger the screwheads. Then the heel is askew to one side and is quite noticeable after I took off the tote. A pretty good grinding job, but why? What's that all about?
Also one of the cheeks was apparently polished and rusted(which I expected) but the cheek on the opposite side looks japaned. :egor:

I think I'll put this one aside and start working on the Stanley instead.
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by Hovannes » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:42 pm

It's been four days and I've yet to touch a single piece of wood. :lol:
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by JMG » Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:41 pm

Hovannes wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:40 pm
I found two planes in the garage, a Stanley Bailey #5 and a smaller plane which I assumed was an incarnation of a #4.
Since #4s are the darlings of internet woodworking blogs, I opted the restore the #4-oid first.
Yikes! 8O
There is no name and the only foundry marks are a 5, and 8, a U in a circle and Made in the USA
The frog is stamped sheet metal held on with two screws, but the proper sized screwdriver blade for those screws do not fit in the slots in the frog---I had to use a cabinet screwdriver for the job. Fortunately it didn't booger the screwheads. Then the heel is askew to one side and is quite noticeable after I took off the tote. A pretty good grinding job, but why? What's that all about?
Also one of the cheeks was apparently polished and rusted(which I expected) but the cheek on the opposite side looks japaned. :egor:

I think I'll put this one aside and start working on the Stanley instead.
I bought a filing cabinet at a Goodwill type store last week or so, and the owner kicked in an old Stanley No. 4 for free. It needs a fair share of restoration, but all the parts are there. The handle has a split in it. I will probably glue it back together and shouldn't be noticeable, but I'm tempted to make a new and a front knob from something cool.

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Post by Hovannes » Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:32 am

Cool!
Planes are interesting to work on.
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by Hovannes » Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:58 pm

I was taking a bunch of stuff out of the garage to donate to the Restore and came across a Stanley try square,
It looks just like this:Image
This should come in handy :D
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Re: Woodworking, good grief!

Post by FredS » Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:34 am

Hovannes wrote:
Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:42 pm
It's been four days and I've yet to touch a single piece of wood. :lol:
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