Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

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Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

Post by Nature of a Man » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:26 pm

My understanding of Foucault is limited, and I take that he isn't the caliber of author worth reading too deeply into to begin with- however from what I've gleaned, his central theme was that cultural beliefs, myths can be corrupted or fabricated, used as a means of elites maintaining illegitimate power over the masses.

As a result, he was skeptical of all modern beliefs, institutions, and "meta-narratives" - such as those of the Enlightenment era, modern science and psychology, and whether or not there was any legitimacy to them at all, anymore so than that of the medieval Catholic Church's universal claims to authority and salvation.

One could easily argue that Foucault himself was not of sound mind or body, given that he more or less admitted his own "work" was meaningless itself, beyond what he believed would grant him the affection of "beautiful boys".

Those inspired by him and other 'radical' thinkers such as Nietzsche, Ayn Rand, Marx, or those who came later - tended to degenerate all cultural values and institutions (beyond their own fabricated values and institutions) into nothing more than means of oppression and control by elites, and develop a "might makes right" view of the world in which they or their own "tribe", or their ability seek revenge against their alleged oppressors, was all that mattered, akin to the Jacobins of the French Revolution who instituted the "reign of terror".

Much of these themes or trends apparently had a degree of popular influence in the counter-culture fads of the 1960s, as well as other fads associated with Baby Boomers and Millenials, such as the trendy "feminists or social justice warriors (SJWs)" which have become popular to mock on social media, "LGBT rights" fads, or other recent counter-cultural fads, such as the "New Atheism" movement, or "pop nihilism" and millennial angst in general, as exemplified in outlets such as the "grunge" and "alt rock" fads of the 1990s, and the troubled individuals and icons associated with it, like the suicidal millionaire Kurt Kobain.

The more recent "alt-right" movement, associated with Neo-Nazis and white supremacists on social media (though often merely made up of bored young people who seem to have more of a fetish for ugly cartoon frogs or cartoon Asian girls than women of their own race), is in many ways, a continuation of postmodernism, at least in the sense that it embraces postmodernism's nihilistic ideology of "tribe vs tribe", never evolving beyond that primitive, survivalistic worldview more akin to that of an ape or a worm than a man or a woman - but with the aim of making "white people" or those who identify with the "far right", the new dominant "tribe" in public academia and modern media - having framed the "far-left" postmodernists as their own inferiors or oppressors, and the new targets of their wrath.

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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

Post by UncleBob » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:20 am

Wow.
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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

Post by John-Boy » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:53 am

UncleBob wrote:
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Wow.
This thread needs a poll... I'll add it.
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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

Post by UncleBob » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:55 am

John-Boy wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:53 am
UncleBob wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:20 am
Wow.
This thread needs a poll... I'll add it.
Can we add a "Wow." option?
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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

Post by John-Boy » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:57 am

UncleBob wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:55 am
John-Boy wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:53 am
UncleBob wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:20 am
Wow.
This thread needs a poll... I'll add it.
Can we add a "Wow." option?
Wow can mean a lot of things. In this case, what does wow mean?
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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

Post by UncleBob » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:00 am

John-Boy wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:57 am
UncleBob wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:55 am
John-Boy wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:53 am
UncleBob wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:20 am
Wow.
This thread needs a poll... I'll add it.
Can we add a "Wow." option?
Wow can mean a lot of things. In this case, what does wow mean?
Duh. World of Warcraft, of course.

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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

Post by gaining_age » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:24 am

If it stays, it should move to opt in. That last paragraph could be completely moved even if thread retained....


P.s. I was going make a comment about Foucault pendulum and then read the post. Uh....
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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

Post by Cleon » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:29 am

Too long of an initial post. Brevity, man.

I vote for keeping it and moving to opt in. No need to cut anything. I think many of you guys are way too sensitive. Put your big boy britches on and see how it plays out.
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Post by JimVH » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:41 am

That's sure a long way around the barn.

A meme might help.
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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

Post by John-Boy » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:42 am

JimVH wrote:
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That's sure a long way around the barn.

A meme might help.
found this one:
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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

Post by JimVH » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:44 am

John-Boy wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:42 am
JimVH wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:41 am
That's sure a long way around the barn.

A meme might help.
found this one:
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Now I get it.

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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

Post by hugodrax » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:09 am

Oh, keep it here. I’d never opt in to read that, but I’m sure glad I had the chance.

Kudos to the author, though. That’s a magnificent post. It’s rambling, inane, and jejeune all at the same time. That dash of pseudo-contemptuous disgust homosexuality always arouses (the mot juste, n’est pas?) in the author really serves to bring out the madness.

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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

Post by Jester » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:27 am

hugodrax wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:09 am
Oh, keep it here. I’d never opt in to read that, but I’m sure glad I had the chance.

Kudos to the author, though. That’s a magnificent post. It’s rambling, inane, and jejeune all at the same time. That dash of pseudo-contemptuous disgust homosexuality always arouses (the mot juste, n’est pas?) in the author really serves to bring out the madness.

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Post by hugodrax » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:39 am

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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

Post by durangopipe » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:53 am

Foucault:

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Modernist:

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With his hairs:

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I hope that cleared things up.
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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

Post by hugodrax » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:01 am

durangopipe wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:53 am
Foucault:

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Post:

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Modernist:

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With his hairs:

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I hope that cleared things up.

Hold still. Need to calculate parallax.
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Re: Michel Foucault: the postmodernist, and his heirs

Post by durangopipe » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:03 am

hugodrax wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:01 am
durangopipe wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:53 am
Foucault:

Image

Post:

Image

Modernist:

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With his hairs:

Image


I hope that cleared things up.

Hold still. Need to calculate parallax.
Will do.

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