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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by JimVH » Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:35 pm

Tatanka wrote:... And I've been rushing this entire process way too much!
My problem exactly. I love the idea of mug and brush, but by the time I get ready to shave I'm ready to be where I'm going. There's no taking my time.

Lord give me patience and give it to me now.

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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by Tatanka » Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:44 pm

JimVH wrote:
Tatanka wrote:... And I've been rushing this entire process way too much!
My problem exactly. I love the idea of mug and brush, but by the time I get ready to shave I'm ready to be where I'm going. There's no taking my time.

Lord give me patience and give it to me now.
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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by AFRS » Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:23 pm

Real men don't shave.

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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by Tatanka » Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:37 pm

AFRS wrote:Real men don't shave.

Call me 1/2 a man! Given the empty face that is not covered with my beard and Mooosh-tash ! :) :)
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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by Joshoowah » Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:02 pm

With grain (downward)' cross grain (nose to ear), and then against grain for me. I do this every time I shave because if I don't I'll have a 5 o'clock shadow by 3.

I haven't shaved in a month though.
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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by Al_S_ » Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:28 am

ATG first, while possible might be a bit painful. Part of the idea of the WTG pass is to reduce the beard, which then makes the ATG pass more comfortable. If you aren't getting a really smooth shave, you may want to take time to pay close attention to the direction your hair is growing, especially in areas that aren't getting smooth. I know for me, while most of my WTG/ATG passes are north/south, on either side of my adam's apple, the direction is east/west. Learning this helped me approach more effectively with the blade.

Others have mentioned using a bowl or mug to build lather, I actually prefer to face lather as it helps moisturize my whickers and stand them up. Finding a good soap (or cream) that has slickness and cushion is also a big help. There are a lot of great options out there. Moisture in the soap is also critical, I use straights and prefer my lather on the very wet side.

Since you are using a DE, you may also want to play with different blades to see which one works best with your razor and beard. This can make a very big difference in both the comfort and effectiveness of the shave.

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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by Skip » Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:33 am

Al_S_ wrote:ATG first, while possible might be a bit painful. Part of the idea of the WTG pass is to reduce the beard, which then makes the ATG pass more comfortable. If you aren't getting a really smooth shave, you may want to take time to pay close attention to the direction your hair is growing, especially in areas that aren't getting smooth. I know for me, while most of my WTG/ATG passes are north/south, on either side of my adam's apple, the direction is east/west. Learning this helped me approach more effectively with the blade.

Others have mentioned using a bowl or mug to build lather, I actually prefer to face lather as it helps moisturize my whickers and stand them up. Finding a good soap (or cream) that has slickness and cushion is also a big help. There are a lot of great options out there. Moisture in the soap is also critical, I use straights and prefer my lather on the very wet side.

Since you are using a DE, you may also want to play with different blades to see which one works best with your razor and beard. This can make a very big difference in both the comfort and effectiveness of the shave.
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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by jruegg » Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:51 am

Skip wrote:
Al_S_ wrote:ATG first, while possible might be a bit painful. Part of the idea of the WTG pass is to reduce the beard, which then makes the ATG pass more comfortable. If you aren't getting a really smooth shave, you may want to take time to pay close attention to the direction your hair is growing, especially in areas that aren't getting smooth. I know for me, while most of my WTG/ATG passes are north/south, on either side of my adam's apple, the direction is east/west. Learning this helped me approach more effectively with the blade.

Others have mentioned using a bowl or mug to build lather, I actually prefer to face lather as it helps moisturize my whickers and stand them up. Finding a good soap (or cream) that has slickness and cushion is also a big help. There are a lot of great options out there. Moisture in the soap is also critical, I use straights and prefer my lather on the very wet side.

Since you are using a DE, you may also want to play with different blades to see which one works best with your razor and beard. This can make a very big difference in both the comfort and effectiveness of the shave.
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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by Bloodhound » Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:33 pm

I am a Mug & Brush with a safety razor, Gellette "Fat Boy" with Shark brend blades shaver. I shave with then across....if it needs to last longer than 24 hours...I go across again and then against the grain...then I can skip a day...but I can also count on my face being a little sore for a few hours....so normally its with and across and done.
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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by dennisthemenace » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:44 am

And then there's shaving w/ COLD water. I've tried it, and it works. But these days of single digit F. temps, I just don't want to.
Here's the info though:

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2010/03/2 ... r-shaving/
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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by Cleon » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:30 am

dennisthemenace wrote:And then there's shaving w/ COLD water. I've tried it, and it works. But these days of single digit F. temps, I just don't want to.
Here's the info though:

http://www.artofmanliness.com/2010/03/2 ... r-shaving/
I cold water shave sometimes, mostly out of laziness. It works just fine. I splash cold water on my face and run a bar of ivory soap over it against the grain, making the whiskers stand up. Then shave with the grain.

I will say that I don't cut myself as much with cold water. I still like the soothing feel of hot water though and prefer it when I have the time and energy.
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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by Thoth » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:28 pm

With the grain on first pass and if I do a second pass I actually shave perpendicular to the grain, I get a close shave without the ingrown hairs and razor bumps I'm prone to because of my curly hair.
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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by UncleBob » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:35 pm

I have a beard but I shave my neck so are you all ready? Brace yerself, TNLP: For 20+ years I have dry shaved, against the grain. Yep, bottom of neck up to jawline with a disposable razor.

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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by JimVH » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:40 pm

UncleBob wrote:I have a beard but I shave my neck so are you all ready? Brace yerself, TNLP: For 20+ years I have dry shaved, against the grain. Yep, bottom of neck up to jawline with a disposable razor.

That is all.
You're a freak.

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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by UncleBob » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:45 pm

JimVH wrote:
UncleBob wrote:I have a beard but I shave my neck so are you all ready? Brace yerself, TNLP: For 20+ years I have dry shaved, against the grain. Yep, bottom of neck up to jawline with a disposable razor.

That is all.
You're a freak.

And I mean that with all the brotherly love I can muster.
Manliness amidst the hipsters would look, I imagine, freakish to them. It certainly does to the uninformed observer. Sort of like the Hulk sitting with a group of young women.
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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by Cleon » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:07 pm

UncleBob wrote:I have a beard but I shave my neck so are you all ready? Brace yerself, TNLP: For 20+ years I have dry shaved, against the grain. Yep, bottom of neck up to jawline with a disposable razor.

That is all.
I do that too. And sometimes, when I really want to show my mettle, I grab one of the pink disposables that my wife has already dulled. Hurts so good.
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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by TNLawPiper » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:30 pm

UncleBob wrote:
JimVH wrote:
UncleBob wrote:I have a beard but I shave my neck so are you all ready? Brace yerself, TNLP: For 20+ years I have dry shaved, against the grain. Yep, bottom of neck up to jawline with a disposable razor.

That is all.
You're a freak.

And I mean that with all the brotherly love I can muster.
Manliness amidst the hipsters would look, I imagine, freakish to them. It certainly does to the uninformed observer. Sort of like the Hulk sitting with a group of young women.
WTFS?

I'm sure you do look like a freak with all of those scars left over from your dry shaving days.

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Post by UncleBob » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:43 pm

Cleon wrote:
UncleBob wrote:I have a beard but I shave my neck so are you all ready? Brace yerself, TNLP: For 20+ years I have dry shaved, against the grain. Yep, bottom of neck up to jawline with a disposable razor.

That is all.
I do that too. And sometimes, when I really want to show my mettle, I grab one of the pink disposables that my wife has already dulled. Hurts so good.
I'm recently married so I didn't have to endure that until recently, although it is that she has dulled my manly Bic Sensitive Skin disposable razors.

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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by UncleBob » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:44 pm

TNLawPiper wrote:
UncleBob wrote:
JimVH wrote:
UncleBob wrote:I have a beard but I shave my neck so are you all ready? Brace yerself, TNLP: For 20+ years I have dry shaved, against the grain. Yep, bottom of neck up to jawline with a disposable razor.

That is all.
You're a freak.

And I mean that with all the brotherly love I can muster.
Manliness amidst the hipsters would look, I imagine, freakish to them. It certainly does to the uninformed observer. Sort of like the Hulk sitting with a group of young women.
WTFS?

I'm sure you do look like a freak with all of those scars left over from your dry shaving days.
No scars. You see, TNLP, if you have manly, steel-titaniumesque skin like me (or just use a sharp razor; your call) you don't have scars while shaving.
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Re: Shaving Against and With the grain/angle.

Post by JimVH » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:52 pm

UncleBob wrote:
TNLawPiper wrote:
UncleBob wrote:
JimVH wrote:
UncleBob wrote:I have a beard but I shave my neck so are you all ready? Brace yerself, TNLP: For 20+ years I have dry shaved, against the grain. Yep, bottom of neck up to jawline with a disposable razor.

That is all.
You're a freak.

And I mean that with all the brotherly love I can muster.
Manliness amidst the hipsters would look, I imagine, freakish to them. It certainly does to the uninformed observer. Sort of like the Hulk sitting with a group of young women.
WTFS?

I'm sure you do look like a freak with all of those scars left over from your dry shaving days.
No scars. You see, TNLP, if you have manly, steel-titaniumesque skin like me (or just use a sharp razor; your call) you don't have scars while shaving.
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