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Re: Introduction to Fountain Pens

Post by gaining_age » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:40 pm

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Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:11 pm
DRAT...I am here again...OK I have read and re-read the posts. If I decide to do this, I will be doing it for the nostalgia part of it...to write in my hunting journal (at least that is what I am telling myself). So I will not want to get a new fountain pen, but rather a vintage pen. I am guessing the auction site is the best place to start or is there a better option...what brand am I looking for if I was going to keep it around the $50 mark or is that too low?
Depends upon what you want in your vintage pen.

Some gold flexible nib pens have gone way up in the market-- yes, the auction site may be a good place to check.

However, if you want to take a look at Estherbrooks or other steel nibs you should be well below the $50 mark (or half that depending on the auction-- let me check).

Yes.. should be below that. Some $35.00 buy it now show up-- and I'd say those are little high too.

Of note on the Estherbrooks is that you can swap nibs easily-- getting interesting nibs can be a challenge. I think I have 3 Estherbrooks and they have the same nib.

Here's a link on the chart: http://www.snyderfamily.com/current/estienibs.htm

Lots of nice colors and they are a decent lever filler pen.

There are other brands with steel nibs.

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Re: Introduction to Fountain Pens

Post by Cleon » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:08 pm

gaining_age wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:40 pm
Bloodhound wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:11 pm
DRAT...I am here again...OK I have read and re-read the posts. If I decide to do this, I will be doing it for the nostalgia part of it...to write in my hunting journal (at least that is what I am telling myself). So I will not want to get a new fountain pen, but rather a vintage pen. I am guessing the auction site is the best place to start or is there a better option...what brand am I looking for if I was going to keep it around the $50 mark or is that too low?
Depends upon what you want in your vintage pen.

Some gold flexible nib pens have gone way up in the market-- yes, the auction site may be a good place to check.

However, if you want to take a look at Estherbrooks or other steel nibs you should be well below the $50 mark (or half that depending on the auction-- let me check).

Yes.. should be below that. Some $35.00 buy it now show up-- and I'd say those are little high too.

Of note on the Estherbrooks is that you can swap nibs easily-- getting interesting nibs can be a challenge. I think I have 3 Estherbrooks and they have the same nib.

Here's a link on the chart: http://www.snyderfamily.com/current/estienibs.htm

Lots of nice colors and they are a decent lever filler pen.

There are other brands with steel nibs.

G.
+1 to Esterbrook. They were built to be everyday writers at low price point. They knew what they were doing back then. You can get them for less than $20 on ebay. They have a rubber ink sac in them and over the years they can petrify and crumble. So take that into account. I had recommended Esterbrook to 7formy1911 on anther thread and he got a NIB one but the sac crumbled and fell apart. The ones left to me that were found in Grandad's office worked just fine after a good cleaning, so it's hit and miss I suppose.
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Re: Introduction to Fountain Pens

Post by gaining_age » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:37 pm

Cleon wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:08 pm
gaining_age wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:40 pm
Bloodhound wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:11 pm
DRAT...I am here again...OK I have read and re-read the posts. If I decide to do this, I will be doing it for the nostalgia part of it...to write in my hunting journal (at least that is what I am telling myself). So I will not want to get a new fountain pen, but rather a vintage pen. I am guessing the auction site is the best place to start or is there a better option...what brand am I looking for if I was going to keep it around the $50 mark or is that too low?
Depends upon what you want in your vintage pen.

Some gold flexible nib pens have gone way up in the market-- yes, the auction site may be a good place to check.

However, if you want to take a look at Estherbrooks or other steel nibs you should be well below the $50 mark (or half that depending on the auction-- let me check).

Yes.. should be below that. Some $35.00 buy it now show up-- and I'd say those are little high too.

Of note on the Estherbrooks is that you can swap nibs easily-- getting interesting nibs can be a challenge. I think I have 3 Estherbrooks and they have the same nib.

Here's a link on the chart: http://www.snyderfamily.com/current/estienibs.htm

Lots of nice colors and they are a decent lever filler pen.

There are other brands with steel nibs.

G.
+1 to Esterbrook. They were built to be everyday writers at low price point. They knew what they were doing back then. You can get them for less than $20 on ebay. They have a rubber ink sac in them and over the years they can petrify and crumble. So take that into account. I had recommended Esterbrook to 7formy1911 on anther thread and he got a NIB one but the sac crumbled and fell apart. The ones left to me that were found in Grandad's office worked just fine after a good cleaning, so it's hit and miss I suppose.
Repairing/replacing an ink sac is actually quite easy. I've not figured out lever bar replacement well, however.

There have been links in past for stores online about finding various sizes of ink sacs and which sac is appropriate for a given fountain pen. Unfortunately, the fountain pen hospital was my goto and has disappeared. They had nice bottles of shellac, sacs and other accessories for pen repair.
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Re: Introduction to Fountain Pens

Post by sweetandsour » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:13 am

durangopipe wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:03 pm
Gabriel wrote:
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Ok, I’ll admit, I succumbed to the allure of the shiny packaging and the whatnot.

My ink arrived today.

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Man, that bottle is so pretty I’d be reluctant to open it!
It's a nice bottle. Is that black? Or brown.
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Re: Introduction to Fountain Pens

Post by ryland » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:54 am

sweetandsour wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:13 am
durangopipe wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:03 pm
Gabriel wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:40 am
Ok, I’ll admit, I succumbed to the allure of the shiny packaging and the whatnot.

My ink arrived today.

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Man, that bottle is so pretty I’d be reluctant to open it!
It's a nice bottle. Is that black? Or brown.
I use a pilot like that more than any other pen. It's a phenomenal value.
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Re: Introduction to Fountain Pens

Post by Cleon » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:00 am

gaining_age wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:37 pm
Cleon wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:08 pm
gaining_age wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:40 pm
Bloodhound wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:11 pm
DRAT...I am here again...OK I have read and re-read the posts. If I decide to do this, I will be doing it for the nostalgia part of it...to write in my hunting journal (at least that is what I am telling myself). So I will not want to get a new fountain pen, but rather a vintage pen. I am guessing the auction site is the best place to start or is there a better option...what brand am I looking for if I was going to keep it around the $50 mark or is that too low?
Depends upon what you want in your vintage pen.

Some gold flexible nib pens have gone way up in the market-- yes, the auction site may be a good place to check.

However, if you want to take a look at Estherbrooks or other steel nibs you should be well below the $50 mark (or half that depending on the auction-- let me check).

Yes.. should be below that. Some $35.00 buy it now show up-- and I'd say those are little high too.

Of note on the Estherbrooks is that you can swap nibs easily-- getting interesting nibs can be a challenge. I think I have 3 Estherbrooks and they have the same nib.

Here's a link on the chart: http://www.snyderfamily.com/current/estienibs.htm

Lots of nice colors and they are a decent lever filler pen.

There are other brands with steel nibs.

G.
+1 to Esterbrook. They were built to be everyday writers at low price point. They knew what they were doing back then. You can get them for less than $20 on ebay. They have a rubber ink sac in them and over the years they can petrify and crumble. So take that into account. I had recommended Esterbrook to 7formy1911 on anther thread and he got a NIB one but the sac crumbled and fell apart. The ones left to me that were found in Grandad's office worked just fine after a good cleaning, so it's hit and miss I suppose.
Repairing/replacing an ink sac is actually quite easy. I've not figured out lever bar replacement well, however.

There have been links in past for stores online about finding various sizes of ink sacs and which sac is appropriate for a given fountain pen. Unfortunately, the fountain pen hospital was my goto and has disappeared. They had nice bottles of shellac, sacs and other accessories for pen repair.
I've never had to replace an ink sac. I may just have lucked out with the pens I've acquired. I'm all for learning and doing it myself if I can. If I ever need to replace one, I'll give it a try and if it goes badly I'm blaming you. :lol:
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Re: Introduction to Fountain Pens

Post by gaining_age » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:02 am

Cleon wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:00 am
gaining_age wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:37 pm
Cleon wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:08 pm
gaining_age wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:40 pm
Bloodhound wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:11 pm
DRAT...I am here again...OK I have read and re-read the posts. If I decide to do this, I will be doing it for the nostalgia part of it...to write in my hunting journal (at least that is what I am telling myself). So I will not want to get a new fountain pen, but rather a vintage pen. I am guessing the auction site is the best place to start or is there a better option...what brand am I looking for if I was going to keep it around the $50 mark or is that too low?
Depends upon what you want in your vintage pen.

Some gold flexible nib pens have gone way up in the market-- yes, the auction site may be a good place to check.

However, if you want to take a look at Estherbrooks or other steel nibs you should be well below the $50 mark (or half that depending on the auction-- let me check).

Yes.. should be below that. Some $35.00 buy it now show up-- and I'd say those are little high too.

Of note on the Estherbrooks is that you can swap nibs easily-- getting interesting nibs can be a challenge. I think I have 3 Estherbrooks and they have the same nib.

Here's a link on the chart: http://www.snyderfamily.com/current/estienibs.htm

Lots of nice colors and they are a decent lever filler pen.

There are other brands with steel nibs.

G.
+1 to Esterbrook. They were built to be everyday writers at low price point. They knew what they were doing back then. You can get them for less than $20 on ebay. They have a rubber ink sac in them and over the years they can petrify and crumble. So take that into account. I had recommended Esterbrook to 7formy1911 on anther thread and he got a NIB one but the sac crumbled and fell apart. The ones left to me that were found in Grandad's office worked just fine after a good cleaning, so it's hit and miss I suppose.
Repairing/replacing an ink sac is actually quite easy. I've not figured out lever bar replacement well, however.

There have been links in past for stores online about finding various sizes of ink sacs and which sac is appropriate for a given fountain pen. Unfortunately, the fountain pen hospital was my goto and has disappeared. They had nice bottles of shellac, sacs and other accessories for pen repair.
I've never had to replace an ink sac. I may just have lucked out with the pens I've acquired. I'm all for learning and doing it myself if I can. If I ever need to replace one, I'll give it a try and if it goes badly I'm blaming you. :lol:
Fair enough :)

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Re: Introduction to Fountain Pens

Post by Bloodhound » Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:33 pm

Where would you find ink sacs and nibs
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Re: Introduction to Fountain Pens

Post by gaining_age » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:39 am

Bloodhound wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:33 pm
Where would you find ink sacs and nibs
A quick search revealed a few locations:
https://www.vintagepensacsandparts.com/ ... ntain_pens
https://www.indy-pen-dance.com/Fountain-Pen-Sacs.html
https://andersonpens.com/repair-supplies/pen-sacs/
http://www.pendemonium.com/pensacs.htm

Nibs -- for estherbrook? Andersonpens has some and ebay has some (don't overpay).
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Post by Bloodhound » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:16 pm

OK I bid on an Estherbrook. I want a classic look, so I found a black body with silver trim clip and lever. Listing said it is a working pen. I was looking at the Watermans too, but they are more $$ and this is an experiment. So I will be keeping it reasonable...now to order some ink...hey can I get ink at Office Depot or Staples? Oops...I havn't even won the auction yet :)
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Post by Bloodhound » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:03 am

OK so I won the auction for 3 Esterbrook fountain pens.

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The seller says that the top pen is ready to go and that the two slightly fatter pens are in need of ink sacks. I got all three for less than $25 shipped. I am going to re-read this and the other thread so I know how to clean one...and then I think I will send the 2 that need sacks out to be fitted and then we shall see...

I like the classic look of the black pens...all three are lever fill.
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Post by Bloodhound » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:12 pm

So the pens arrived today...They are in very nice condition. as stated 2 of them n22d sacs but the top one seems to be ready to go...I just need to get some ink. :chili:
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Re: Introduction to Fountain Pens

Post by gaining_age » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:30 pm

Bloodhound wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:12 pm
So the pens arrived today...They are in very nice condition. as stated 2 of them n22d sacs but the top one seems to be ready to go...I just need to get some ink. :chili:
Awesome!

You could pick up some Waterman ink at Staples or Office Depot/Max for immediate satisfaction. I do like Noodler's ink and the Pilot ink (and more recently with the cooler bottle but higher pricetag).
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Re: Introduction to Fountain Pens

Post by ryland » Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:34 pm

I've been using fountain pens for about 6 years. I've got more ink than I know what to do with and have some favorites.

Noodler's Mass. 54th
Noodler's Black
Parker Quink

My favorite pens

Pilot Metropolitan. I don't think there is a better value.
Lamy Safari.
Twisbi 580. I dropped this one and it broke, but up until then, it was a great pen.
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Post by ryland » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:39 pm

I went to Dromgoole's this week and was able to pick up a Twisbi Eco clear in a medium nib, Noodler's Texas Navy and Noodler's 54th Massachusetts.
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Post by Bloodhound » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:59 pm

So, I have been carrying my Esterbrook pen everyday for work. No ink stains on my shirt and so far so good. But I have to fill it every 3 days, and I am not writing that much...is that normal? How much should I be able to write with a "full tank"?
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Re: Introduction to Fountain Pens

Post by Gabriel » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:18 pm

sweetandsour wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:13 am
durangopipe wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:03 pm
Gabriel wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:40 am
Ok, I’ll admit, I succumbed to the allure of the shiny packaging and the whatnot.

My ink arrived today.

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Man, that bottle is so pretty I’d be reluctant to open it!
It's a nice bottle. Is that black? Or brown.
Somehow I missed this question. It's a dark brown. Generally speaking, I like it a lot. It seems to be of good quality, it behaves well, and I like the color. The only complaint I have, is that on some papers it dries to more of a greenish brown. I typically use an Ampad Gold Fiber legal pad and the color looks great, sometimes almost black on that.
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Re: Introduction to Fountain Pens

Post by Bloodhound » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:10 am

So I have been enjoying my Esterbrock pen...not writing in my hunting journal, but still enjoying the pen. My work partner saw me using it and commented on how much she liked fountain pens, but she only had on old one that didn't work...I needed an idea for a Christmas present for her, so there it was. I ordered a "Set", it is a Parker Urban pen, a bottle of ink, insert tubes of ink and a converter, so it can be used with the ink tubes or with the bottled ink. It came in yesterday and I was stunned at how nice it was...all packaged in a beautiful boxed set and the pen...wow a very nice feel and a solid/quality feel to it.

I got it off Amazon and it was on sale...A very nice set up should you have the need. :)
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Post by coco » Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:38 pm

Bloodhound wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:10 am
So I have been enjoying my Esterbrock pen...not writing in my hunting journal, but still enjoying the pen. My work partner saw me using it and commented on how much she liked fountain pens, but she only had on old one that didn't work...I needed an idea for a Christmas present for her, so there it was. I ordered a "Set", it is a Parker Urban pen, a bottle of ink, insert tubes of ink and a converter, so it can be used with the ink tubes or with the bottled ink. It came in yesterday and I was stunned at how nice it was...all packaged in a beautiful boxed set and the pen...wow a very nice feel and a solid/quality feel to it.

I got it off Amazon and it was on sale...A very nice set up should you have the need. :)
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Post by Bloodhound » Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:32 pm

coco wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:38 pm
Bloodhound wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:10 am
So I have been enjoying my Esterbrock pen...not writing in my hunting journal, but still enjoying the pen. My work partner saw me using it and commented on how much she liked fountain pens, but she only had on old one that didn't work...I needed an idea for a Christmas present for her, so there it was. I ordered a "Set", it is a Parker Urban pen, a bottle of ink, insert tubes of ink and a converter, so it can be used with the ink tubes or with the bottled ink. It came in yesterday and I was stunned at how nice it was...all packaged in a beautiful boxed set and the pen...wow a very nice feel and a solid/quality feel to it.

I got it off Amazon and it was on sale...A very nice set up should you have the need. :)
Nice!

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Yup that is it...I didn't expect a "Gift Set" I was thinking just a couple of items in boxes...this is a great gift.
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