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Post by infidel » Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:55 am

wosbald wrote:+JMJ+
The 95 Rants was probably the first Manifesto, so I'd say that Luther was definitely a luminary and harbinger of the Modern World to come.
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Post by Thunktank » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:05 pm

infidel wrote:
wosbald wrote:+JMJ+
The 95 Rants was probably the first Manifesto, so I'd say that Luther was definitely a luminary and harbinger of the Modern World to come.
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If it weren't for Catholics the Protestants never would have been. If it weren't for Protestants science as we know it never would have been. Thank God for the both of you groups.

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Post by Cleon » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:19 pm

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infidel wrote:
wosbald wrote:+JMJ+
The 95 Rants was probably the first Manifesto, so I'd say that Luther was definitely a luminary and harbinger of the Modern World to come.
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If it weren't for Catholics the Protestants never would have been. If it weren't for Protestants science as we know it never would have been. Thank God for the both of you groups.
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Post by tuttle » Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:41 pm

wosbald wrote:+JMJ+
The 95 Rants was probably the first Manifesto, so I'd say that Luther was definitely a luminary and harbinger of the Modern World to come.
The printing press was more modern than anything published on one. If anything Luther was fighting against the Zeitgiest which is always progressing and innovating and indulgences and abuses of the papacy were the most blatant in his day.

More than the manifesto of an ideologue, Luther's theses were born out of a pastoral concern. He saw how the innovations and bloat were cutting off people from the gospel. The answer, to generalize, was not a deconstructionist approach, but rather a back to the basics approach: Stop innovating and return once again to solid ground.
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Post by jruegg » Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:13 pm

tuttle wrote:
wosbald wrote:+JMJ+
The 95 Rants was probably the first Manifesto, so I'd say that Luther was definitely a luminary and harbinger of the Modern World to come.
The printing press was more modern than anything published on one. If anything Luther was fighting against the Zeitgiest which is always progressing and innovating and indulgences and abuses of the papacy were the most blatant in his day.

More than the manifesto of an ideologue, Luther's theses were born out of a pastoral concern. He saw how the innovations and bloat were cutting off people from the gospel. The answer, to generalize, was not a deconstructionist approach, but rather a back to the basics approach: Stop innovating and return once again to solid ground.
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Re: Reformation Day!

Post by Eric » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:53 am

coco wrote:That's right, boys and girls, Reformation Day is coming up! October 31st!




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Eric wrote:
coco wrote:That's right, boys and girls, Reformation Day is coming up! October 31st!




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Post by Cliff » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:02 am

HAPPY REFORMATION DAY to CPS friends :wavey:
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Re: Reformation Day!

Post by Del » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:20 am

A Chestertonian buddy in Springfield, IL is hosting a bunch of guys to a Four Men Feast on October 31.

OldWorldSwine is also invited. I am bringing the Cottage Bacon.

I have no intention of being the first one to mention "Reformation Day." The party is in honor of Hillaire Belloc, and this bunch is bellicose enough to begin with.

Many of the participants are converts to Catholicism. However, I gather that most Protestants ignore Reformation Day like most Christians ignore Lepanto.

We shall sing some songs that Belloc wrote, such as his Song of the Pelagian Heresy and his all-year-round carol, Noel -- the chorus of which goes, "Noel! Noel! Noel! Noel! May all of my enemies go to Hell!"
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Post by coco » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:28 am

Del wrote:...I gather that most Protestants ignore Reformation Day like most Christians ignore Lepanto.
Most Protestants could not tell you anything about the Reformation, nor could they tell you anything about Luther except, "He was some famous guy in history, right?"

Behold, Catholics, the fields for Counter-Reformation are ripe for harvest. Protestant minds are blank slates, waiting to be written upon.
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Post by coco » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:32 am

Del wrote:...We shall sing some songs that Belloc wrote, such as his Song of the Pelagian Heresy and his all-year-round carol, Noel -- the chorus of which goes, "Noel! Noel! Noel! Noel! May all of my enemies go to Hell!"
I could really use some hymns by ancient heretics promoting their heresy, or hymns by ancient Christians opposing heresy. Preferably stuff written before the Reformation. If there is a CPSer out there with a reference or two, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by gaining_age » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:23 am

coco wrote:
Del wrote:...I gather that most Protestants ignore Reformation Day like most Christians ignore Lepanto.
Most Protestants could not tell you anything about the Reformation, nor could they tell you anything about Luther except, "He was some famous guy in history, right?"

Behold, Catholics, the fields for Counter-Reformation are ripe for harvest. Protestant minds are blank slates, waiting to be written upon.

I've been hanging around a better quality of protestants....
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Post by Del » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:36 am

coco wrote:
Del wrote:...We shall sing some songs that Belloc wrote, such as his Song of the Pelagian Heresy and his all-year-round carol, Noel -- the chorus of which goes, "Noel! Noel! Noel! Noel! May all of my enemies go to Hell!"
I could really use some hymns by ancient heretics promoting their heresy, or hymns by ancient Christians opposing heresy. Preferably stuff written before the Reformation. If there is a CPSer out there with a reference or two, it would be greatly appreciated.
I have sometimes wondered what happened to the text of Arius' hymn of Christological error, There Was Once a Time When He Was Not. It might be lost to history.

Eucharistic hymns and Marian hymns abound, both ancient and modern-era (post reformation). They were not anti-heresy-propaganda songs, but hymns teach us.

You can tell the old hymns by their tone. They were all chant during the age of the Great Heresies.

The modern arrangements of polyphony and harmony mark the modern era. (And I do not mean to insult the Reformation by not including it among the Great Heresies; however, it is the first of the Great Heresies to occur in the modern era.)
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Re: Reformation Day!

Post by wosbald » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:42 am

+JMJ+
coco wrote:
Del wrote:...I gather that most Protestants ignore Reformation Day like most Christians ignore Lepanto.
Most Protestants could not tell you anything about the Reformation, nor could they tell you anything about Luther except, "He was some famous guy in history, right?"

Behold, Catholics, the fields for Counter-Reformation are ripe for harvest. Protestant minds are blank slates, waiting to be written upon.
As long as people believe that their Christian Identity is based on anything other than Baptismal Regeneration, they will always be Protestants. All else that is Protestant is just a posteriori window dressing.


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Post by John-Boy » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:42 am

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Post by Del » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:55 am

gaining_age wrote:
coco wrote:
Del wrote:...I gather that most Protestants ignore Reformation Day like most Christians ignore Lepanto.
Most Protestants could not tell you anything about the Reformation, nor could they tell you anything about Luther except, "He was some famous guy in history, right?"

Behold, Catholics, the fields for Counter-Reformation are ripe for harvest. Protestant minds are blank slates, waiting to be written upon.

I've been hanging around a better quality of protestants....
Dang my impaired sense of humor!!!! :lol:

Our fundamental problem, as Christian evangelists, is that our own pews are full of lukewarm Catholics and Protestants who don't know Christ, don't know their faith, and don't know their history.

Somehow, it is easier to rescue lost sheep from each other's flocks.

Zealous Evangelicals approach lukewarm Catholics with knowledge of the Bible, deep and new, and perhaps a formula for salvation by a simple prayer. This is attractive to young Catholics who were not taught nuthin at home or parish schools. And Praise God! -- There is a safety net to catch some of these Catholic souls before they fall into Hell. But just try to reach a lukewarm Evangelical with that same old Bible stuff they've already put on armor to resist, and it's hard to do.

Zealous Catholics approach a lukewarm Evangelical with personal connection to history, intimate access to Christ in the Eucharist, a philosophical understanding of the Natural Law and our happy place in God's universe, all the Books of the Bible, beautiful architecture that inspires us to Heaven, new ways to pray, a whole gang of heroic friends in the saints, a heavenly Mother, (etc., the list is endless, and I'm just pulling from conversion stories I have heard)..... anyhow, this stuff is attractive. It is a cosmic playground of truth for those who are open to see it. But lukewarm Catholics are somehow bored with it all, and very hard for us to reach.
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Re: Reformation Day!

Post by Eric » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:16 am

That's right, boys and girls, Reformation Day is here!

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