Things that make me go hmmmm. . .wosbald wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:10 pm+JMJ+
Leaving aside terminological wranglings over "teleportation", the deeper issue seems to be over attributing a "miraculous" character to the Birth. Though I'm not especially knowledgable in this area, I would think that the partisans of this view would, rather than its miraculous character, insist on its "originary" character as being a mode of Birth proper to Man in his original integrity (in his Prelapsarian state). Which is to say, a mode of birth which is natural-though-unfallen — as passing through the birth canal without opening/wounding it — rather than as a miraculous mode which bypasses natural channels. This would also seem to account for Mary's not being subject to labor pains.tuttle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:04 pm[…]
1) If maintaining Mary's virginity is the heart of the matter. Then sure. Go for it. But I would contend that Christ's Incarnation, and his humanity, is more to the heart of the matter, which is why a teleportation birth seems to be a shaky foundation to set the stage of the Incarnation. …
Good grief this particular side of the topic is silly.
I have visions of ancient desert monks standing in the sun’s rays for a long time thinking this stuff up.