Christian Denomination Selector

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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by FredS » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:43 am

Evidently, I need to get to know Jeremy the Methodist Man better. PCA was #2 with a score of 96%. That happens to be where I'm actually at.

Even though the cradle Catholics can't wrap their minds around actually having independent thought on the subject of denominational differences, I didn't take the survey with the intent of aiming at a desired end point, but ended up at basically the same place in real life and the survey for the same reasons.

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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by Goose55 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:08 am

That's a neat tool.
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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by hugodrax » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:38 am

FredS wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:43 am
Evidently, I need to get to know Jeremy the Methodist Man better. PCA was #2 with a score of 96%. That happens to be where I'm actually at.

Even though the cradle Catholics can't wrap their minds around actually having independent thought on the subject of denominational differences, I didn't take the survey with the intent of aiming at a desired end point, but ended up at basically the same place in real life and the survey for the same reasons.

Skip and I used to joke that we all have our own weird. It may take a while and it may change over time, but we all end up where we're supposed to be eventually.
The cradle catholic humbly chuckles at your attempt at individuality. Have you looked at this site and seen how much of the "thought" expressed is merely operant conditioning? Simple response to stimuli? Of course, being a free born American dirt farmer of no more education than he needed, gosh dang it, you would, without doubt, be immune from such obvious pitfalls.

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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by FredS » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:44 am

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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by tuttle » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:46 am

Reformed Baptist (100%)
Presbyterian Church in America/Orthodox Presbyterian Church (100%)
Reformed Churches (100%)
Presbyterian Church USA (92%)
Southern Baptist (92%)
Mennonite Brethren (88%)
Assemblies of God (83%)
Free Will Baptist (83%)
Methodist/Wesleyan Church (81%)
Orthodox Quakerism (79%)
Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (76%)
Church of Christ (76%)
International Church of Christ (71%)
Seventh-Day Adventist (71%)
Evangelical Lutheran Church (69%)
Episcopal/Anglican Church (65%)
Eastern Orthodox Church (63%)
United Pentecostal Church (62%)
Roman Catholic Church (58%)
Mormonism (46%)
Jehovah's Witness (38%)
Liberal Quakerism (19%)
Unitarian Universalism (0%)
Unity Church (0%)
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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by gaining_age » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:48 am

hugodrax wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:21 am
John-Boy wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:16 am
hugodrax wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:08 am
You people are hilarious to watch. “Look, look...thanks to my conscious responses in an attempt to steer this online doohickey the right way, I got exactly, and I mean exactly, the response I engineered!! Raise the banner high! I R Xtian!”
But if you think about it, deep down inside, aren't we all engineers?
Well put, John. Deep down inside, we’re all dogmatic, legalistic bastiges who aren’t above throwing a survey to show our sectarian allegiances. You know, “engineers.” :lol:
Dangit John, I'm a scientist not an Engineer.... (ok, my job title my be but I stick to science practices)
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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by John-Boy » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:10 am

hugodrax wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:21 am
John-Boy wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:16 am
hugodrax wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:08 am
You people are hilarious to watch. “Look, look...thanks to my conscious responses in an attempt to steer this online doohickey the right way, I got exactly, and I mean exactly, the response I engineered!! Raise the banner high! I R Xtian!”
But if you think about it, deep down inside, aren't we all engineers?
Well put, John. Deep down inside, we’re all dogmatic, legalistic bastiges who aren’t above throwing a survey to show our sectarian allegiances. You know, “engineers.” :lol:
Oh.. No, I meant the train kind... choo choo... whoo whoo...
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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by durangopipe » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:18 am

Hmm.
I got 100% Mormonism and 98% Scientology. 0% Zoroastrianism.

It was the questions about jet airliners from another planet, atomic bombs, volcanoes, plural marriage and a third of the Bible being discovered in gold tablets in America and proven true with a galvanic skin response ohm meter that clinched it.

:pipe3:

Couldn’t most of us place ourselves in a Christian faith tradition based on the contents of our theological beliefs and practices without this “test?”
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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by hugodrax » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:30 am

durangopipe wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:18 am
Hmm.
I got 100% Mormonism and 98% Scientology. 0% Zoroastrianism.

It was the questions about jet airliners from another planet, atomic bombs, volcanoes, plural marriage and a third of the Bible being discovered in gold tablets in America and proven true with a galvanic skin response ohm meter that clinched it.

:pipe3:

Couldn’t most of us place ourselves in a Christian faith tradition based on the contents of our theological beliefs and practices without this “test?”
One hopes. When I marked every answer "not very important" two of the four 100% agreement responses invit were the Anglicans and the Lutherans. Seems rather biased, what?
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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by UncleBob » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:38 am

hugodrax wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:30 am
durangopipe wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:18 am
Hmm.
I got 100% Mormonism and 98% Scientology. 0% Zoroastrianism.

It was the questions about jet airliners from another planet, atomic bombs, volcanoes, plural marriage and a third of the Bible being discovered in gold tablets in America and proven true with a galvanic skin response ohm meter that clinched it.

:pipe3:

Couldn’t most of us place ourselves in a Christian faith tradition based on the contents of our theological beliefs and practices without this “test?”
One hopes. When I marked every answer "not very important" two of the four 100% agreement responses invit were the Anglicans and the Lutherans. Seems rather biased, what?
For fun, answer each question in the exact opposite of what you believe. So, if you don't give a rat's tuckus, answer, "Very Important" and so on. Here is what I got:

tuttle (100%)
Del (32%)
FredS (R = 2)
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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by JimVH » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:47 am

Mine was correct, which is good since I'm right and so many of you are wrong.

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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by FredS » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:09 am

durangopipe wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:18 am
Couldn’t most of us place ourselves in a Christian faith tradition based on the contents of our theological beliefs and practices without this “test?”
I'd certainly hope so.
UncleBob wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:38 am
For fun, answer each question in the exact opposite of what you believe. So, if you don't give a rat's tuckus, answer, "Very Important" and so on. Here is what I got:

tuttle (100%)
Del (32%)
FredS (R = 2)
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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by Joshoowah » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:35 pm

This thing is ridiculous. Some of the designations are hilarious.

I'm 100% on 3 different types of Lutheran, 100% Wesleyan/Methodist, 90% Orthodox, 90% Seventh-Day Adventist (wtf?), 90% Episcopalian/Anglican, 80% Assemblies, and so on.

On the flip side, I'm 40% Reformed :P.
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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by John-Boy » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:50 pm

Joshoowah wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:35 pm
This thing is ridiculous. Some of the designations are hilarious.

I'm 100% on 3 different types of Lutheran, 100% Wesleyan/Methodist, 90% Orthodox, 90% Seventh-Day Adventist (wtf?), 90% Episcopalian/Anglican, 80% Assemblies, and so on.

On the flip side, I'm 40% Reformed :P.
Ridiculous or not. It's fact. :dance:
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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by Goose55 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:28 am

I like what Jesus said about this matter of denominations:

"The time is coming—it has, in fact, come—when what you’re called will not matter and where you go to worship will not matter. It’s who you are and the way you live that count before God. Your worship must engage your spirit in the pursuit of truth. That’s the kind of people the Father is out looking for: those who are simply and honestly themselves before him in their worship." ~ John 4:21-24 The Message (MSG)
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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by Cleon » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:55 am

Goose55 wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:28 am
I like what Jesus said about this matter of denominations:

"The time is coming—it has, in fact, come—when what you’re called will not matter and where you go to worship will not matter. It’s who you are and the way you live that count before God. Your worship must engage your spirit in the pursuit of truth. That’s the kind of people the Father is out looking for: those who are simply and honestly themselves before him in their worship." ~ John 4:21-24 The Message (MSG)
That's a super loose paraphrase.
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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by hugodrax » Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:00 pm

Cleon wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:55 am
Goose55 wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:28 am
I like what Jesus said about this matter of denominations:

"The time is coming—it has, in fact, come—when what you’re called will not matter and where you go to worship will not matter. It’s who you are and the way you live that count before God. Your worship must engage your spirit in the pursuit of truth. That’s the kind of people the Father is out looking for: those who are simply and honestly themselves before him in their worship." ~ John 4:21-24 The Message (MSG)
That's a super loose paraphrase.
Nope. Too easy.
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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by Goose55 » Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:20 pm

Cleon wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:55 am
Goose55 wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:28 am
I like what Jesus said about this matter of denominations:

"The time is coming—it has, in fact, come—when what you’re called will not matter and where you go to worship will not matter. It’s who you are and the way you live that count before God. Your worship must engage your spirit in the pursuit of truth. That’s the kind of people the Father is out looking for: those who are simply and honestly themselves before him in their worship." ~ John 4:21-24 The Message (MSG)
That's a super loose paraphrase.
Interested to know what it would look like if you paraphrased it. A lot of folk keep saying The Message is a paraphrase but Eugene Peterson had the Hebrew & Greek right there by his side.
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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by durangopipe » Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:59 pm

Goose55 wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:20 pm
Cleon wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:55 am
Goose55 wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:28 am
I like what Jesus said about this matter of denominations:

"The time is coming—it has, in fact, come—when what you’re called will not matter and where you go to worship will not matter. It’s who you are and the way you live that count before God. Your worship must engage your spirit in the pursuit of truth. That’s the kind of people the Father is out looking for: those who are simply and honestly themselves before him in their worship." ~ John 4:21-24 The Message (MSG)
That's a super loose paraphrase.
Interested to know what it would look like if you paraphrased it. A lot of folk keep saying The Message is a paraphrase but Eugene Peterson had the Hebrew & Greek right there by his side.
I agree with this criticism of The Message from a longer piece about it:

... other critics declare The Message to be not a paraphrase of what the Bible says, but more of a rendering of what Eugene Peterson would like it to say. In an interview with Christianity Today, Peterson described the beginning of the creative process that produced The Message: “I just kind of let go and became playful. And that was when the Sermon on the Mount started. I remember I was down in my basement study, and I did the Beatitudes in about ten minutes. And all of a sudden I realized this could work.” Aside from the impossibility of doing justice to the Sermon on the Mount in ten minutes, one wonders whether playfulness is the appropriate demeanor for those who attempt to “rightly divide the word of Truth” (2 Timothy 2:15). Awe and reverence for a holy God and His holy Word, yes. Playfulness? No.

It in no way resembles a serious translation. Peterson himself has said as much.

Not so much a poor translation as a non-translation.
Not so much a paraphrase as a rewrite.

An interesting chart:
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From the same source as the chart:

The Message –
Pros: Easy and fun to read. Phrases Bible verses in a reader-friendly way. Formatting is more like a novel, with less emphasis on chapter and verse number references.
Cons: Not actually a translation of the Bible. It’s considered a paraphrase of the Bible. It should be read and quoted with caution, and it should not be considered an actual translation of God’s Word. I cannot recommend The Message as it is not the Bible, as it’s author is Eugene Peterson, not God.


(I’m not endorsing either of the sources used, but I do believe they articulate the problem with The Message accurately.)
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Re: Christian Denomination Selector

Post by Nature of a Man » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:15 pm

My top results were Presbyterian or Reformed, but I'd have to give it another shot since I didn't save the full results.

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