Old Scofield vs Edition III

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Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by Fainn » Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:32 am

I grew up using the old edition and wondered if anyone had used the III edition. I am currently using the Archeological Study Bible NIV, but I want a KJV Bible for reasons related to cultural preservation.
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by tuttle » Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:27 am

My advice is steer clear of dispensationalism.
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by coco » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:40 am

tuttle wrote:
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My advice is steer clear of dispensationalism.
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by coco » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:43 am

Early 1600's English culture, and the language that went with it, has been gone from this earth for some time. I recommend something more up-to-date.
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by durangopipe » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:41 pm

coco wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:40 am
tuttle wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:27 am
My advice is steer clear of dispensationalism.
I do love the KJV as beautiful language, and in some cases poetry.
Besides, all of the verses I've memorized were from the King James version. :D

But if you consider Scofield's "Notes" canon (as too many do), you'd be making a big mistake.
If you love the language and want to keep a copy, Fainn (which I totally understand), I'd find a KJV without Scofield's additions or underlining.

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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by Cleon » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:44 pm

coco wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:40 am
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Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:27 am
My advice is steer clear of dispensationalism.
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by durangopipe » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:51 pm

KJV Bible, Lux Leather, Black (No Scofield Notes)

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Dell will be quick to point out that it's missing a few chapters. :D
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by Fainn » Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:27 pm

I want some notes. But is there anything else in that price range or cheaper?
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by jruegg » Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:56 pm

coco wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:40 am
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Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:27 am
My advice is steer clear of dispensationalism.
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by jruegg » Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:03 pm

Fainn wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:27 pm
I want some notes. But is there anything else in that price range or cheaper?
What kind of notes are you looking for? Lots of 'Study' Bibles with notes focus on different things.

For example (from some of the Bibles on my shelves):

Textual notes
Archaeological notes
Life-Application notes
Theological notes
Apologetics notes
Early Church Fathers notes

I have yet to find a Bible that contains in-depth notes on all of these topics simultaneously.
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by Jocose » Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:14 pm

I thought this was going to be about Butt Ben.
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by FredS » Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:55 pm

Jocose wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:14 pm
I thought this was going to be about Butt Ben.
Me too.
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by Jocose » Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:08 pm

FredS wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:55 pm
Jocose wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:14 pm
I thought this was going to be about Butt Ben.
Me too.
Do you ever hear from him? Tell him to drop in and say hi sometime.
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by Del » Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:44 pm

durangopipe wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:51 pm
KJV Bible, Lux Leather, Black (No Scofield Notes)

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Del will be quick to point out that it's missing a few chapters. :D
Actually, I've never heard of this Schofield guy. I was going to let the knowledgeable folk answer Fain's question.

I appreciate this general advice regarding Bible versions: The version that you will actually read and use is the best one.
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The original KJV had all 73 of the Sacred Books.

As I understand it, the missing Books weren't taken out of English-language versions of The Bible until early in the 1800's.... and that was a style decision made by printing companies at the time, rather than being any sort of dogmatic declaration by a ministerial authority.
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by durangopipe » Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:08 pm

Del wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:44 pm
durangopipe wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:51 pm
KJV Bible, Lux Leather, Black (No Scofield Notes)

Image

Del will be quick to point out that it's missing a few chapters. :D
Actually, I've never heard of this Schofield guy. I was going to let the knowledgeable folk answer Fain's question.

I appreciate this general advice regarding Bible versions: The version that you will actually read and use is the best one.
=========================================

The original KJV had all 73 of the Sacred Books.

As I understand it, the missing Books weren't taken out of English-language versions of The Bible until early in the 1800's.... and that was a style decision made by printing companies at the time, rather than being any sort of dogmatic declaration by a ministerial authority.
In the original King James Version of the Bible, the apocrypha were included but separated from the other books of the Bible and placed in a separate section to indicate lesser authority.

Thorny theological stuff, Dell.

The KJV Scofield Reference bible was a very commonly used edition of the Bible that included copious linked references and commentary influenced by dispensationalist theology.

I didn’t know what Luther’s Bible included, so I looked it up and found this:

Luther’s Bible included them with a note that said, “Apocrypha: These books are not held equal to the Sacred Scriptures, and yet are useful and good for reading.”
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by Fainn » Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:15 pm

jruegg wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:03 pm
Fainn wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:27 pm
I want some notes. But is there anything else in that price range or cheaper?
What kind of notes are you looking for? Lots of 'Study' Bibles with notes focus on different things.

For example (from some of the Bibles on my shelves):

Textual notes
Archaeological notes
Life-Application notes
Theological notes
Apologetics notes
Early Church Fathers notes

I have yet to find a Bible that contains in-depth notes on all of these topics simultaneously.
I think I would prefer a reseasonably priced reformed one. Under $40.
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by Del » Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:18 am

durangopipe wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:08 pm
Del wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:44 pm
durangopipe wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:51 pm
KJV Bible, Lux Leather, Black (No Scofield Notes)

Image

Del will be quick to point out that it's missing a few chapters. :D
Actually, I've never heard of this Schofield guy. I was going to let the knowledgeable folk answer Fain's question.

I appreciate this general advice regarding Bible versions: The version that you will actually read and use is the best one.
=========================================

The original KJV had all 73 of the Sacred Books.

As I understand it, the missing Books weren't taken out of English-language versions of The Bible until early in the 1800's.... and that was a style decision made by printing companies at the time, rather than being any sort of dogmatic declaration by a ministerial authority.
In the original King James Version of the Bible, the apocrypha were included but separated from the other books of the Bible and placed in a separate section to indicate lesser authority.

Thorny theological stuff, Dell.

The KJV Scofield Reference bible was a very commonly used edition of the Bible that included copious linked references and commentary influenced by dispensationalist theology.

I didn’t know what Luther’s Bible included, so I looked it up and found this:

Luther’s Bible included them with a note that said, “Apocrypha: These books are not held equal to the Sacred Scriptures, and yet are useful and good for reading.”
Luther was a "dogmatic declaration by a ministerial authority" unto himself.

Simply.... He was his own pope. Which was fine, as far as that goes. But I have no idea why anyone else should listen to him, when everyone else can go and be his own pope.
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by FredS » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:36 am

Jocose wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:08 pm
FredS wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:55 pm
Jocose wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:14 pm
I thought this was going to be about Butt Ben.
Me too.
Do you ever hear from him? Tell him to drop in and say hi sometime.
Once in a while on FB.
We used to hook up every year at the St Louis pipe show. Then, about 6 months before I moved to CO, he moved across state and bought a place a mile and a half from me so we hung out a few times. He was sort of gimpy and he told me that a year or so earlier he'd fallen from a tree stand and broke either his back or legs. It was a crazy story like you'd read about in the "It Happened To Me" section of a hunting mag. He crawled to a place where he had cell phone service and called for help. It was like 6 or 8 hours 'till he was found and rescued.

We'd talked about collaborating on some pipes but that never went anywhere. He did share his secret rustication method with me though.
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by Fainn » Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:45 am

Del wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:44 pm
durangopipe wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:51 pm
KJV Bible, Lux Leather, Black (No Scofield Notes)

Image

Del will be quick to point out that it's missing a few chapters. :D
Actually, I've never heard of this Schofield guy. I was going to let the knowledgeable folk answer Fain's question.

I appreciate this general advice regarding Bible versions: The version that you will actually read and use is the best one.
=========================================

The original KJV had all 73 of the Sacred Books.

As I understand it, the missing Books weren't taken out of English-language versions of The Bible until early in the 1800's.... and that was a style decision made by printing companies at the time, rather than being any sort of dogmatic declaration by a ministerial authority.
I used to own a Catholic Bible I bought at a used book store. I loaned it to an elderly lady who died a few months later and never got it back. But, I have since bought the apogrypha so no big deal.
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Re: Old Scofield vs Edition III

Post by John-Boy » Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:20 pm

FredS wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:36 am
Jocose wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:08 pm
FredS wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:55 pm
Jocose wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:14 pm
I thought this was going to be about Butt Ben.
Me too.
Do you ever hear from him? Tell him to drop in and say hi sometime.
Once in a while on FB.
We used to hook up every year at the St Louis pipe show. Then, about 6 months before I moved to CO, he moved across state and bought a place a mile and a half from me so we hung out a few times. He was sort of gimpy and he told me that a year or so earlier he'd fallen from a tree stand and broke either his back or legs. It was a crazy story like you'd read about in the "It Happened To Me" section of a hunting mag. He crawled to a place where he had cell phone service and called for help. It was like 6 or 8 hours 'till he was found and rescued.

We'd talked about collaborating on some pipes but that never went anywhere. He did share his secret rustication method with me though.
Dang.
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