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If legal, I'd probably smoke again. Always amazed me that we made a plant illegal.DepartedLight wrote:Do I need a joint?
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Yes, this.hogleg wrote:If legal, I'd probably smoke again. Always amazed me that we made a plant illegal.DepartedLight wrote:Do I need a joint?
It sounded better when the voices in my head were saying it.
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All kinds of plants are illegal. Besides invasive plants, here are just a few because of substance abuse: Salvia, khat, cannabis, coca, iboga, opium poppy, peyote, jimson weed, and psilocybin.mont974x4 wrote:Yes, this.hogleg wrote:If legal, I'd probably smoke again. Always amazed me that we made a plant illegal.DepartedLight wrote:Do I need a joint?
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Bob, opium isn't illegal! You just have to have your doctor tell the government it's OK!UncleBob wrote:All kinds of plants are illegal. Besides invasive plants, here are just a few because of substance abuse: Salvia, khat, cannabis, coca, iboga, opium poppy, peyote, jimson weed, and psilocybin.mont974x4 wrote:Yes, this.hogleg wrote:If legal, I'd probably smoke again. Always amazed me that we made a plant illegal.DepartedLight wrote:Do I need a joint?
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Opium poppy (the plant) is illegal to grow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_somniferum Of course, so is marijuana--even in Colorado and Washington.TNLawPiper wrote:Bob, opium isn't illegal! You just have to have your doctor tell the government it's OK!UncleBob wrote:All kinds of plants are illegal. Besides invasive plants, here are just a few because of substance abuse: Salvia, khat, cannabis, coca, iboga, opium poppy, peyote, jimson weed, and psilocybin.mont974x4 wrote:Yes, this.hogleg wrote:If legal, I'd probably smoke again. Always amazed me that we made a plant illegal.DepartedLight wrote:Do I need a joint?
Most opioids prescribed are synthetic, you know. That way their strength is better regulated.
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Sometimes, you need a good lap joint.
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Everybody needs a good juke joint.
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There is much wrong with your supposition.UncleBob wrote:All kinds of plants are illegal. Besides invasive plants, here are just a few because of substance abuse: Salvia, khat, cannabis, coca, iboga, opium poppy, peyote, jimson weed, and psilocybin.mont974x4 wrote:Yes, this.hogleg wrote:If legal, I'd probably smoke again. Always amazed me that we made a plant illegal.DepartedLight wrote:Do I need a joint?
For just one example, as I type this, psilocybin (a compound and not a living organism) is naturally occurring/growing in mushrooms in cow pastures with no manipulation from any man. What are you proposing? The farmer/rancher be arrested? The cow be arrested?
The mushroom is not illegal. It is naturally occurring and GOD-made. Human possession of the mushrooms may be illegal in some parts, but the mushroom certainly isn't illegal. Still totally asinine, especially when you consider distilled spirits are encouraged as revenue generators.
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There is much wrong with your supposition.hogleg wrote:There is much wrong with your supposition.UncleBob wrote:All kinds of plants are illegal. Besides invasive plants, here are just a few because of substance abuse: Salvia, khat, cannabis, coca, iboga, opium poppy, peyote, jimson weed, and psilocybin.mont974x4 wrote:Yes, this.hogleg wrote:If legal, I'd probably smoke again. Always amazed me that we made a plant illegal.DepartedLight wrote:Do I need a joint?
For just one example, as I type this, psilocybin (a compound and not a living organism) is naturally occurring/growing in mushrooms in cow pastures with no manipulation from any man. What are you proposing? The farmer/rancher be arrested? The cow be arrested?
The mushroom is not illegal. It is naturally occurring and GOD-made. Human possession of the mushrooms may be illegal in some parts, but the mushroom certainly isn't illegal. Still totally asinine, especially when you consider distilled spirits are encouraged as revenue generators.
As just one example, the notion that marijuana (or most any plant at this point) is beyond human manipulation. For fun, try Googling teosinte. Marijuana was God-made but none of that strain exists.
Now alcohol is legal because we legalized it. The mushroom is illegal because we made it illegal. If that farmer is caught with it he will get arrested. Peyote is illegal for most because we made it so. If you can't fathom that then no one can help you there. You can argue whether or no it should be legal but that doesn't make it legal, all of a sudden.
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Actually, the changes in the law in Colorado legalizing recreational marijuana sale and use also legalized the growing of recreational marijuana by commercial growers for sale and by individuals for personal use.UncleBob wrote:Opium poppy (the plant) is illegal to grow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_somniferum Of course, so is marijuana--even in Colorado and Washington.TNLawPiper wrote:Bob, opium isn't illegal! You just have to have your doctor tell the government it's OK!UncleBob wrote:All kinds of plants are illegal. Besides invasive plants, here are just a few because of substance abuse: Salvia, khat, cannabis, coca, iboga, opium poppy, peyote, jimson weed, and psilocybin.mont974x4 wrote:Yes, this.hogleg wrote:If legal, I'd probably smoke again. Always amazed me that we made a plant illegal.DepartedLight wrote:Do I need a joint?
Most opioids prescribed are synthetic, you know. That way their strength is better regulated.
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Actually, any marijuana is still illegal. The federal gov't is just not prosecuting it right now.durangopipe wrote:Actually, the changes in the law in Colorado legalizing recreational marijuana sale and use also legalized the growing of recreational marijuana by commercial growers for sale and by individuals for personal use.UncleBob wrote:Opium poppy (the plant) is illegal to grow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_somniferum Of course, so is marijuana--even in Colorado and Washington.TNLawPiper wrote:Bob, opium isn't illegal! You just have to have your doctor tell the government it's OK!UncleBob wrote:All kinds of plants are illegal. Besides invasive plants, here are just a few because of substance abuse: Salvia, khat, cannabis, coca, iboga, opium poppy, peyote, jimson weed, and psilocybin.mont974x4 wrote:Yes, this.hogleg wrote:If legal, I'd probably smoke again. Always amazed me that we made a plant illegal.DepartedLight wrote:Do I need a joint?
Most opioids prescribed are synthetic, you know. That way their strength is better regulated.
http://www.safeaccessnow.org/federal_marijuana_law
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Precisely. I've also often wondered, but not to the point of looking it up, how the growers and the distributors can be banked without serious money laundering. Bob?UncleBob wrote:Actually, any marijuana is still illegal. The federal gov't is just not prosecuting it right now.durangopipe wrote:Actually, the changes in the law in Colorado legalizing recreational marijuana sale and use also legalized the growing of recreational marijuana by commercial growers for sale and by individuals for personal use.UncleBob wrote:Opium poppy (the plant) is illegal to grow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_somniferum Of course, so is marijuana--even in Colorado and Washington.TNLawPiper wrote:Bob, opium isn't illegal! You just have to have your doctor tell the government it's OK!UncleBob wrote:All kinds of plants are illegal. Besides invasive plants, here are just a few because of substance abuse: Salvia, khat, cannabis, coca, iboga, opium poppy, peyote, jimson weed, and psilocybin.mont974x4 wrote:Yes, this.hogleg wrote:If legal, I'd probably smoke again. Always amazed me that we made a plant illegal.DepartedLight wrote:Do I need a joint?
Most opioids prescribed are synthetic, you know. That way their strength is better regulated.
http://www.safeaccessnow.org/federal_marijuana_law
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+JMJ+
When did the mushroom, that ubiquitously preeminent exemplar of the singularly noble Kingdom of Decomposers, become a plant?UncleBob wrote:All kinds of plants are illegal. Besides invasive plants, here are just a few because of substance abuse: … psilocybin.


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Shut up, he's rolling.wosbald wrote:+JMJ+
When did the mushroom, that ubiquitously preeminent exemplar of the singularly noble Kingdom of Decomposers, become a plant?UncleBob wrote:All kinds of plants are illegal. Besides invasive plants, here are just a few because of substance abuse: … psilocybin.

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They can't. It's still a cash business but there are some groups trying to skirt that. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/17/busin ... banks.html A few small credit unions are setting up accounts but they still can't process electronic payments.hugodrax wrote:Precisely. I've also often wondered, but not to the point of looking it up, how the growers and the distributors can be banked without serious money laundering. Bob?UncleBob wrote:Actually, any marijuana is still illegal. The federal gov't is just not prosecuting it right now.durangopipe wrote:Actually, the changes in the law in Colorado legalizing recreational marijuana sale and use also legalized the growing of recreational marijuana by commercial growers for sale and by individuals for personal use.UncleBob wrote:Opium poppy (the plant) is illegal to grow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_somniferum Of course, so is marijuana--even in Colorado and Washington.TNLawPiper wrote:Bob, opium isn't illegal! You just have to have your doctor tell the government it's OK!UncleBob wrote:All kinds of plants are illegal. Besides invasive plants, here are just a few because of substance abuse: Salvia, khat, cannabis, coca, iboga, opium poppy, peyote, jimson weed, and psilocybin.mont974x4 wrote:Yes, this.hogleg wrote:If legal, I'd probably smoke again. Always amazed me that we made a plant illegal.DepartedLight wrote:Do I need a joint?
Most opioids prescribed are synthetic, you know. That way their strength is better regulated.
http://www.safeaccessnow.org/federal_marijuana_law
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Technically, you got a point there, pardner . . .UncleBob wrote:Actually, any marijuana is still illegal. The federal gov't is just not prosecuting it right now.durangopipe wrote:Actually, the changes in the law in Colorado legalizing recreational marijuana sale and use also legalized the growing of recreational marijuana by commercial growers for sale and by individuals for personal use.UncleBob wrote:Opium poppy (the plant) is illegal to grow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_somniferum Of course, so is marijuana--even in Colorado and Washington.TNLawPiper wrote:Bob, opium isn't illegal! You just have to have your doctor tell the government it's OK!UncleBob wrote:All kinds of plants are illegal. Besides invasive plants, here are just a few because of substance abuse: Salvia, khat, cannabis, coca, iboga, opium poppy, peyote, jimson weed, and psilocybin.mont974x4 wrote:Yes, this.hogleg wrote:If legal, I'd probably smoke again. Always amazed me that we made a plant illegal.DepartedLight wrote:Do I need a joint?
Most opioids prescribed are synthetic, you know. That way their strength is better regulated.
http://www.safeaccessnow.org/federal_marijuana_law
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So they're sitting on huge stacks of cash. Daft.UncleBob wrote:They can't. It's still a cash business but there are some groups trying to skirt that. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/17/busin ... banks.html A few small credit unions are setting up accounts but they still can't process electronic payments.hugodrax wrote:Precisely. I've also often wondered, but not to the point of looking it up, how the growers and the distributors can be banked without serious money laundering. Bob?UncleBob wrote:Actually, any marijuana is still illegal. The federal gov't is just not prosecuting it right now.durangopipe wrote:Actually, the changes in the law in Colorado legalizing recreational marijuana sale and use also legalized the growing of recreational marijuana by commercial growers for sale and by individuals for personal use.UncleBob wrote:Opium poppy (the plant) is illegal to grow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_somniferum Of course, so is marijuana--even in Colorado and Washington.TNLawPiper wrote:Bob, opium isn't illegal! You just have to have your doctor tell the government it's OK!UncleBob wrote:All kinds of plants are illegal. Besides invasive plants, here are just a few because of substance abuse: Salvia, khat, cannabis, coca, iboga, opium poppy, peyote, jimson weed, and psilocybin.mont974x4 wrote:Yes, this.hogleg wrote:If legal, I'd probably smoke again. Always amazed me that we made a plant illegal.
Most opioids prescribed are synthetic, you know. That way their strength is better regulated.
http://www.safeaccessnow.org/federal_marijuana_law
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Damn it, Bob, don't be a dullard. You know I was being goofy.UncleBob wrote:Opium poppy (the plant) is illegal to grow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_somniferum Of course, so is marijuana--even in Colorado and Washington.TNLawPiper wrote:Bob, opium isn't illegal! You just have to have your doctor tell the government it's OK!UncleBob wrote:All kinds of plants are illegal. Besides invasive plants, here are just a few because of substance abuse: Salvia, khat, cannabis, coca, iboga, opium poppy, peyote, jimson weed, and psilocybin.mont974x4 wrote:Yes, this.hogleg wrote:If legal, I'd probably smoke again. Always amazed me that we made a plant illegal.DepartedLight wrote:Do I need a joint?
Most opioids prescribed are synthetic, you know. That way their strength is better regulated.
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