When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by UncleBob » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:19 pm

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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by UncleBob » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:09 pm

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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by infidel » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:22 pm

Article refers to ticks as insects, therefore it's fake news :cheese:
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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by Rusty » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:06 pm

Looks like Geese were Velociraptors. Maybe JesusClaus can comment?

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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by coco » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:32 pm

Cocopuff added a dinosaur to our nativity scene.

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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by UncleBob » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:45 pm

coco wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:32 pm
Cocopuff added a dinosaur to our nativity scene.

That is all.
Cocopuff is now my favorite.
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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by UncleBob » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:26 pm

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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by Jester » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:48 pm

Neanderthal Jesus would be floored by this discovery.
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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by hugodrax » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:54 pm

Jester wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:48 pm
Neanderthal Jesus would be floored by this discovery.
That's darn fine blasphemy, son.
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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by Jester » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:22 am

hugodrax wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:54 pm
Jester wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:48 pm
Neanderthal Jesus would be floored by this discovery.
That's darn fine blasphemy, son.
I put off a little too much sarcasm there but yes blasphemy is how I feel about the evolution process. If we are evolving into more complex creatures wouldn't we be slightly more "advanced" than the form Jesus came in? Did he come to save our primordial ancestors or only the state of creature he came as? Are we done evolving or did he come to save the next form of life we will become?
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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by tuttle » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:34 am

There is a paywall to the article...did it have something to do with dinosaurs and feathers?
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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by wosbald » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:01 am

+JMJ+
Jester wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:22 am
hugodrax wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:54 pm
Jester wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:48 pm
Neanderthal Jesus would be floored by this discovery.
That's darn fine blasphemy, son.
I put off a little too much sarcasm there but yes blasphemy is how I feel about the evolution process. If we are evolving into more complex creatures wouldn't we be slightly more "advanced" than the form Jesus came in? Did he come to save our primordial ancestors or only the state of creature he came as? Are we done evolving or did he come to save the next form of life we will become?
Butterflies appear before flowers to pollinate.
Day three all vegetation and day four all animals and I am the one giving darn fine blasphemy.
I don't think that the evolution process is "blasphemy", but I do think that it has its problematics — IOW, the hard demands of Reality-as-is won't dissolve into the Evolutionist framework without residue.

As you so wisely note, there has to be some "stable element" of Man — not only so that we can be the same nature ("the form of Man") as Jesus — but so that you can be the same nature as yer mom and so that we can all live on the earth as brothers. If we're not all brothers, unqualified nationalism and tribalism might start making sense.
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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by tuttle » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:30 am

wosbald wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:01 am
+JMJ+
Jester wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:22 am
hugodrax wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:54 pm
Jester wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:48 pm
Neanderthal Jesus would be floored by this discovery.
That's darn fine blasphemy, son.
I put off a little too much sarcasm there but yes blasphemy is how I feel about the evolution process. If we are evolving into more complex creatures wouldn't we be slightly more "advanced" than the form Jesus came in? Did he come to save our primordial ancestors or only the state of creature he came as? Are we done evolving or did he come to save the next form of life we will become?
Butterflies appear before flowers to pollinate.
Day three all vegetation and day four all animals and I am the one giving darn fine blasphemy.
I don't think that the evolution process is "blasphemy", but I do think that it has its problematics — IOW, the hard demands of Reality-as-is won't dissolve into the Evolutionist framework without residue.

As you so wisely note, there has to be some "stable element" of Man — not only so that we can be the same nature ("the form of Man") as Jesus — but so that you can be the same nature as yer mom and so that we can all live on the earth as brothers. If we're not all brothers, unqualified nationalism and tribalism might start making sense.
+1

As to your last point, it's not a 'might', but an 'absolutely'. This is the (evolutionary) logic that was chugging along full steam pre-1940s.
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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by Cleon » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:20 am

tuttle wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:30 am
wosbald wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:01 am
+JMJ+
Jester wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:22 am
hugodrax wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:54 pm
Jester wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:48 pm
Neanderthal Jesus would be floored by this discovery.
That's darn fine blasphemy, son.
I put off a little too much sarcasm there but yes blasphemy is how I feel about the evolution process. If we are evolving into more complex creatures wouldn't we be slightly more "advanced" than the form Jesus came in? Did he come to save our primordial ancestors or only the state of creature he came as? Are we done evolving or did he come to save the next form of life we will become?
Butterflies appear before flowers to pollinate.
Day three all vegetation and day four all animals and I am the one giving darn fine blasphemy.
I don't think that the evolution process is "blasphemy", but I do think that it has its problematics — IOW, the hard demands of Reality-as-is won't dissolve into the Evolutionist framework without residue.

As you so wisely note, there has to be some "stable element" of Man — not only so that we can be the same nature ("the form of Man") as Jesus — but so that you can be the same nature as yer mom and so that we can all live on the earth as brothers. If we're not all brothers, unqualified nationalism and tribalism might start making sense.
+1

As to your last point, it's not a 'might', but an 'absolutely'. This is the (evolutionary) logic that was chugging along full steam pre-1940s.
Hah. wos worked in a "yer mom".
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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by wosbald » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:25 am

+JMJ+
Cleon wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:20 am
Hah. wos worked in a "yer mom".
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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by Del » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:24 pm

tuttle wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:30 am
wosbald wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:01 am
+JMJ+
Jester wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:22 am
hugodrax wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:54 pm
Jester wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:48 pm
Neanderthal Jesus would be floored by this discovery.
That's darn fine blasphemy, son.
I put off a little too much sarcasm there but yes blasphemy is how I feel about the evolution process. If we are evolving into more complex creatures wouldn't we be slightly more "advanced" than the form Jesus came in? Did he come to save our primordial ancestors or only the state of creature he came as? Are we done evolving or did he come to save the next form of life we will become?
Butterflies appear before flowers to pollinate.
Day three all vegetation and day four all animals and I am the one giving darn fine blasphemy.
I don't think that the evolution process is "blasphemy", but I do think that it has its problematics — IOW, the hard demands of Reality-as-is won't dissolve into the Evolutionist framework without residue.

As you so wisely note, there has to be some "stable element" of Man — not only so that we can be the same nature ("the form of Man") as Jesus — but so that you can be the same nature as yer mom and so that we can all live on the earth as brothers. If we're not all brothers, unqualified nationalism and tribalism might start making sense.
+1

As to your last point, it's not a 'might', but an 'absolutely'. This is the (evolutionary) logic that was chugging along full steam pre-1940s.
It is still chugging along. "Identity politics" is just a politically tolerable term for "racism."

There is a strange paradigm of "intersectionality" still thriving in our universities: It states that everyone is a racist, even if he doesn't know it. That dogma can only exist within a larger paradigm with rates every race, class, and gender as "more fit" or "less fit" for participation in society.
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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

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Del wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:24 pm
“The Declaration of Independence dogmatically bases all rights on the fact that God created all men equal; and it is right; for if they were not created equal, they were certainly evolved unequal. There is no basis for democracy except in a dogma about the divine origin of man.” ― G.K. Chesterton.
We're all created physically and mentally unequal, which surprise surprise is what one would expect from biological processes. You can dogmatically declare us all morally or spiritually equal wrt the Divine without stubbornly refusing to accept biological fact.
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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by Jester » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:44 pm

infidel wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:18 pm
Del wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:24 pm
“The Declaration of Independence dogmatically bases all rights on the fact that God created all men equal; and it is right; for if they were not created equal, they were certainly evolved unequal. There is no basis for democracy except in a dogma about the divine origin of man.” ― G.K. Chesterton.
We're all created physically and mentally unequal, which surprise surprise is what one would expect from biological processes. You can dogmatically declare us all morally or spiritually equal wrt the Divine without stubbornly refusing to accept biological fact.
Which biological fact is he refusing?
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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by UncleBob » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:52 pm

Jester wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:44 pm
infidel wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:18 pm
Del wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:24 pm
“The Declaration of Independence dogmatically bases all rights on the fact that God created all men equal; and it is right; for if they were not created equal, they were certainly evolved unequal. There is no basis for democracy except in a dogma about the divine origin of man.” ― G.K. Chesterton.
We're all created physically and mentally unequal, which surprise surprise is what one would expect from biological processes. You can dogmatically declare us all morally or spiritually equal wrt the Divine without stubbornly refusing to accept biological fact.
Which biological fact is he refusing?
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Re: When did Dinosaurs get feathers?

Post by infidel » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:06 pm

Jester wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:44 pm
infidel wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:18 pm
Del wrote:
Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:24 pm
“The Declaration of Independence dogmatically bases all rights on the fact that God created all men equal; and it is right; for if they were not created equal, they were certainly evolved unequal. There is no basis for democracy except in a dogma about the divine origin of man.” ― G.K. Chesterton.
We're all created physically and mentally unequal, which surprise surprise is what one would expect from biological processes. You can dogmatically declare us all morally or spiritually equal wrt the Divine without stubbornly refusing to accept biological fact.
Which biological fact is he refusing?
That birds are dinosaurs, obviously.
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