Religious Robots

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Religious Robots

Post by tuttle » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:35 am

Check out this extremely interesting (and disturbing) article: Robot priests can bless you, advise you, and even perform your funeral

It looks across a few different faiths (Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, etc) and highlights some ways robots are being integrated. Some interesting AI discussion.

As one who nearly comes unglued when I see battery powered candles being 'lit' during worship, you can imagine my thoughts on this. And while I'm not quite sold on AI as a reality, I do think at some point the programming that we think of as AI will reach a point where we might find it extremely difficult to differentiate actual programming with AI, a functional AI if you will. And that's bound to have an impact.

Really curious to hear other thoughts on this kind of thing.
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Re: Religious Robots

Post by Jester » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:39 am

tuttle wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:35 am
Check out this extremely interesting (and disturbing) article: Robot priests can bless you, advise you, and even perform your funeral

It looks across a few different faiths (Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, etc) and highlights some ways robots are being integrated. Some interesting AI discussion.

As one who nearly comes unglued when I see battery powered candles being 'lit' during worship, you can imagine my thoughts on this. And while I'm not quite sold on AI as a reality, I do think at some point the programming that we think of as AI will reach a point where we might find it extremely difficult to differentiate actual programming with AI, a functional AI if you will. And that's bound to have an impact.

Really curious to hear other thoughts on this kind of thing.
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Re: Religious Robots

Post by Thunktank » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:17 am

This technocrat does not approve.
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Post by Fainn » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:13 pm

Prob my evangelical upbringing, but I always think of Revelation 13:15.
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Post by Cleon » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:25 pm

Stupid. I can't believe people want this.
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Re: Religious Robots

Post by FredS » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:14 pm

With apologies to our Japanese brothers and sisters - - - Japanese culture is weird. Few of us in the west can begin to wrap our minds around it, particularly in regards to their young people and their relationship to religion and their cultural history. To this outsider, it appears they do a lot of things simply because it's tradition, with little thought or knowledge of why it's part of their tradition or what it means.

'Mericans do the same though. We sing the national anthem before the football game every Sunday without much thought to what we're singing. We know that Christmas is the celebration of Jesus' birth but too many of us celebrate the day without celebrating Him. Our American 'culture' is only about 300 years old and we're already disconnected from that history. The Japanese have had a couple thousand more years to forget why they are who they are. If the temple priest is seen as simply a guy who says and does certain things, then it's easy enough to see how some think he can be replaced by a machine.

I've been to a couple Japanese temples on weekends and they are packed with people doing rituals - lighting incense, burning prayers, tossing coins, etc - just because it's the thing to do. You know, like Catholics. :chili:
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Re: Religious Robots

Post by AFRS » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:58 pm

I don't see what the problem is. I'm a religious robot.

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Re: Religious Robots

Post by Thoth » Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:17 pm

tuttle wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:35 am
As one who nearly comes unglued when I see battery powered candles being 'lit' during worship,...
I'm guessing you were never almost set ablaze by an errant candle... (as a result of the priests vestmensts accidental being set on fire (while he was wearing them) no one under 12 is allowed to hold an actual candle. they get a battery powered one)

guessing you never came across this site then (its been around for over a decade now)
http://www.chatwithigod.com/

Though robotic clergy make sense if we are actually living in a computer simulation.
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Post by hugodrax » Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:18 pm

Thoth wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:17 pm
tuttle wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:35 am
As one who nearly comes unglued when I see battery powered candles being 'lit' during worship,...
I'm guessing you were never almost set ablaze by an errant candle... (as a result of the priests vestmensts accidental being set on fire (while he was wearing them) no one under 12 is allowed to hold an actual candle. they get a battery powered one)

guessing you never came across this site then (its been around for over a decade now)
http://www.chatwithigod.com/

Though robotic clergy make sense if we are actually living in a computer simulation.
Program them with the Catechism. Replace the Jesuits.
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Re: Religious Robots

Post by tuttle » Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:56 pm

Thoth wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:17 pm
tuttle wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:35 am
As one who nearly comes unglued when I see battery powered candles being 'lit' during worship,...
I'm guessing you were never almost set ablaze by an errant candle... (as a result of the priests vestmensts accidental being set on fire (while he was wearing them) no one under 12 is allowed to hold an actual candle. they get a battery powered one)
The candle was just an example, but no, never been set of fire by one. That said, we don't light many candles in our services unless it's Christmas. And on Christmas Eve in the midwest it seems every baptist church has a candlelight service and there's no age limit. I think Jester's infant held one a couple years back. :lol:
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Re: Religious Robots

Post by Del » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:02 pm

tuttle wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:56 pm
Thoth wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:17 pm
tuttle wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:35 am
As one who nearly comes unglued when I see battery powered candles being 'lit' during worship,...
I'm guessing you were never almost set ablaze by an errant candle... (as a result of the priests vestmensts accidental being set on fire (while he was wearing them) no one under 12 is allowed to hold an actual candle. they get a battery powered one)
The candle was just an example, but no, never been set of fire by one. That said, we don't light many candles in our services unless it's Christmas. And on Christmas Eve in the midwest it seems every baptist church has a candlelight service and there's no age limit. I think Jester's infant held one a couple years back. :lol:
How often does pastor wear liturgical vestments?
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Re: Religious Robots

Post by Cleon » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:20 pm

tuttle wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:56 pm
Thoth wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:17 pm
tuttle wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:35 am
As one who nearly comes unglued when I see battery powered candles being 'lit' during worship,...
I'm guessing you were never almost set ablaze by an errant candle... (as a result of the priests vestmensts accidental being set on fire (while he was wearing them) no one under 12 is allowed to hold an actual candle. they get a battery powered one)
The candle was just an example, but no, never been set of fire by one. That said, we don't light many candles in our services unless it's Christmas. And on Christmas Eve in the midwest it seems every baptist church has a candlelight service and there's no age limit. I think Jester's infant held one a couple years back. :lol:
Yes, yes. And move the UNLIT candle to the LIT candle. The worst week for Baptist church janitors is the week between Christmas and New Years spent cleaning all the wax off the floor.

A while back we had a candle that was on the table by the wine go up in flaming glory during the worship service. I simply got up and snuffed it out. Some genius, probably my son, clumsily wrapped the bottom of the candle with tissue to get it to stand up straight in the holder. Let me tell you, waxy tissue lights up like a pyro show.
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Re: Religious Robots

Post by FredS » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:46 pm

Cleon wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:20 pm
tuttle wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:56 pm
Thoth wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:17 pm
tuttle wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:35 am
As one who nearly comes unglued when I see battery powered candles being 'lit' during worship,...
I'm guessing you were never almost set ablaze by an errant candle... (as a result of the priests vestmensts accidental being set on fire (while he was wearing them) no one under 12 is allowed to hold an actual candle. they get a battery powered one)
The candle was just an example, but no, never been set of fire by one. That said, we don't light many candles in our services unless it's Christmas. And on Christmas Eve in the midwest it seems every baptist church has a candlelight service and there's no age limit. I think Jester's infant held one a couple years back. :lol:
Yes, yes. And move the UNLIT candle to the LIT candle. The worst week for Baptist church janitors is the week between Christmas and New Years spent cleaning all the wax off the floor.

A while back we had a candle that was on the table by the wine go up in flaming glory during the worship service. I simply got up and snuffed it out. Some genius, probably my son, clumsily wrapped the bottom of the candle with tissue to get it to stand up straight in the holder. Let me tell you, waxy tissue lights up like a pyro show.
If the preacher didn't use the opportunity to break in to an impromptu lesson on the fires of hell, he's not much of a Baptist.
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