Faith in the News

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Re: Faith in the News

Post by wosbald » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:09 am

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Jester wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:51 am
wosbald wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:33 am
Paula Michelle White-Cain, better known as Paula White, is an American non-denominational Christian pastor.
Women can't be Baptist pastors.





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"[T]he emergency of irregular migration has to be met with justice, solidarity and mercy. Forms of collective expulsion, which do not allow for the suitable treatment of individual cases, are unacceptable."
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Re: Faith in the News

Post by Jester » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:05 pm

wosbald wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:09 am
+JMJ+
Jester wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:51 am
wosbald wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:33 am
Paula Michelle White-Cain, better known as Paula White, is an American non-denominational Christian pastor.
Women can't be Baptist pastors.




You do know these guys don't have any authority over the Church, right? They are kind of like the pope. Just political figures with their own opinions.
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Re: Faith in the News

Post by hugodrax » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:47 pm

Jester wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:05 pm
wosbald wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:09 am
+JMJ+
Jester wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:51 am
wosbald wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:33 am
Paula Michelle White-Cain, better known as Paula White, is an American non-denominational Christian pastor.
Women can't be Baptist pastors.




You do know these guys don't have any authority over the Church, right? They are kind of like the pope. Just political figures with their own opinions.
Wosbald doesn't understand having one's own opinions. Start small.
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Re: Faith in the News

Post by wosbald » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:49 am

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"[T]he emergency of irregular migration has to be met with justice, solidarity and mercy. Forms of collective expulsion, which do not allow for the suitable treatment of individual cases, are unacceptable."
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Re: Faith in the News

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Re: Faith in the News

Post by wosbald » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:57 am

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Re: Faith in the News

Post by Jester » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:41 am

wosbald wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:57 am
+JMJ+

Trump is stupid.
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Re: Faith in the News

Post by hugodrax » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:21 am

Jester wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:41 am
wosbald wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:57 am
+JMJ+

Trump is stupid.
How do you tell each other apart?
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Re: Faith in the News

Post by Jester » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:45 am

hugodrax wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:21 am
Jester wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:41 am
wosbald wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:57 am
+JMJ+

Trump is stupid.
How do you tell each other apart?
You must be an all or nothing kinda guy.
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Re: Faith in the News

Post by hugodrax » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:32 am

Jester wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:45 am
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:21 am
Jester wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:41 am
wosbald wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:57 am
+JMJ+

Trump is stupid.
How do you tell each other apart?
You must be an all or nothing kinda guy.

Not at all. But being less stupid is hardly praiseworthy.

Can one be a partial heretic?
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Re: Faith in the News

Post by Stanley76 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:19 pm

Jester wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:41 am
wosbald wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:57 am
+JMJ+

Trump is stupid.
I wish I was stupid so I could be a billionaire and marry a super model. :cry:
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Re: Faith in the News

Post by wosbald » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:31 pm

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Re: Faith in the News

Post by wosbald » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:00 pm

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Re: Faith in the News

Post by wosbald » Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:07 am

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Re: Faith in the News

Post by wosbald » Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:47 pm

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How many Americans believe Trump is anointed by God?
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President Trump speaks with reporters before departing on Marine One on the South Lawn of the White House in Washington on Aug. 21, 2019. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

(RNS) — Over the weekend, Rick Perry, the U.S. secretary of energy, became the latest highly placed evangelical Christian to claim that President Trump is the “chosen one.”

“I said you were,” Perry said in a clip from an interview shown on Fox News’ “Fox and Friends,” relating a recent conversation with Trump about an August press briefing in which the president said, “I am the chosen one.”

“If you are a believing Christian, you understand God’s plan for the people who rule and judge over us on this planet and our government,” Perry explained. The energy secretary said he had given the president a memo listing the kings of Israel, all of them ordained by God in the Bible — none of whom, Perry pointed out, “were perfect.”

Perry seemed to be making a general point about some Christians’ understanding of God’s role in history. (A Fox reporter made clear that Perry thinks the same of President Obama.) But others have gone further. Not long ago, Paula White, the Pentecostal pastor who was recently named to head the White House’s faith outreach office, said she couldn’t refuse a request to serve from the president. “To say no to President Trump would be saying no to God, and I won’t do that.”

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“Are Presidents Annointed by God?” (Graphic by Ryan Burge}

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Is this view of Trump as anointed by God common among Protestants? We put a survey into the field in May of 2019 that assessed the opinions of just over 1,000 Protestant Christians. We asked two questions regarding the anointing of presidents by God.

The first asked if all presidents are anointed by God, while the second asked if Donald Trump was specifically anointed by God to win the 2016 election. In our sample, just 21.4% believed Donald Trump was specifically anointed by God to be president, but that figure increases among groups who believe in modern-day prophets and a God who is active in the daily affairs of the world.

Slightly more white evangelicals (29%) agreed that Trump was anointed by God, but among white Pentecostals, like Paula White, that figure shot up to 53%.

White Protestants’ belief in Trump’s anointing tracks with church attendance. Among those who attend less often than once a month, just 1 in 10 thinks that Trump was anointed. Of those who attend church multiple times a week, 4 in 10 agree that Trump was anointed by God.

Views of the Bible also affect how Americans responded. Among those who consider the Bible inspired by God, just 11% believe Trump was anointed, while those who believe the Bible to be the literal word of God are more than three times as likely to think so.

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“Are Presidents Annointed by God?” (Graphic by Ryan Burge}

But the results also reveal an inconsistency among white Protestants. Just 12% of that sample agreed that all presidents are anointed by God, though it increased to 18% among white evangelicals and 30% among white Pentecostals. Calling Trump the anointed and not Barack Obama puts some in treacherous theological waters, of course, since the key difference is partisanship.

In the same way, belief in Trump’s anointing is very closely tied to support of his presidency. We asked white Protestants to score their feelings toward the president on a scale on which 100 is warm/positive and 0 is cold/negative. Forty percent of people who rated Trump at 100 said he was anointed by God. But just 10% of people who gave Trump the highest rating think all presidents are anointed by God.

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“Warmer feelings toward Trump lead people to think he was annointed by God, but not more likely to believe all presidents are annointed” (Graphic by Ryan Burge)

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Re: Faith in the News

Post by wosbald » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:36 am

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Re: Faith in the News

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Re: Faith in the News

Post by durangopipe » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:06 pm

wosbald wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:31 pm
+JMJ+

If Trump wants to make serious money, he needs to forget about megachurches and start a new religion that involves some crap about the spirits of aliens who died inside volcanoes loaded up with “atomic” bombs.

Oh, and they need to fly the doomed aliens to earth (and those atomic volcanos) in space ships that look like Boeing 707s.

Maybe Tom Cruise would give him some help getting started.
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Post by wosbald » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:40 pm

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Hodgson reports his own church, St. Julie’s in Dartmouth, to the White House
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DARTMOUTH — “Stephen, thought you might like to see samples of cards I discovered in a holder at the back of St. Julie’s Church in Dartmouth, MA,” Bristol County Sheriff Thomas M. Hodgson says in an email to Stephen Miller, the architect of the White House’s immigration policy.

“While attending mass last Sunday, I noticed a holder on a table near the entrance marked, “ICE-Immigration” and noticed the three stacks of colored cards. Trying to determine if this is an isolated situation or a common occurrence in other parish churches,” Hodgson adds. The email is dated Aug. 7, 2017, and was sent at 12:41 p.m. on that date.

In about the time it takes to click the send button for an email, the sheriff notified the White House that his own place of worship was distributing information in immigrants’ native language about their legal rights and also assisting people either directly or indirectly who may not be in the U.S. legally.

This particular email is one of some 74 emails the sheriff sent to Miller and were obtained by the American Civil Liberties Un𝗂on and provided to The Standard-Times.

The Rev. Richard Roy, pastor of St. Julie’s Billiart Parish on Slocum Road in Dartmouth, said the sheriff is a parishioner and he declined to comment.

The pastor said the cards were informational and many people who go to the church speak languages other than English.

“This is just giving them some information on how to behave and conduct themselves if approached by law enforcement,” Roy said.

The cards are gone, he said. They were taken by people. There are no more.

The Fall River Diocese, in a statement, said the dissemination of information is in keeping with their teachings and is part of their mission.

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“Needless to say when I saw it, I was surprised,” the sheriff said.

The sheriff said he reacted as a law enforcement professional. “I thought it was appropriate to make Washington aware when these things were happening,” he said. “If these kinds of things are going on in churches, then we should be aware of it.”

Hodgson praised the dialogue between the Trump White House and local sheriffs.

“People should celebrate the fact that sheriffs in the U.S. have direct access to the President,” he said. “Decisions are not being made in a vacuum. They are made with information from people who have boots on the ground,” he said.

“I’ll never apologize for that (communications he has with the White House). If I saw it at a store or a community center, I would have done the same thing,” he said.

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— Pope Francis, Morocco

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