24 August 1984

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24 August 1984

Post by UncleBob » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:05 pm

For 25 years today, I have been a Christian. It seems so long ago but my journey has been circuitous and punctuated with both the failure of fundamentalist intractable zeal and the hard-knock lesson of forgiveness. I too once believed that, because I experienced God in a certain (and narrow) way, all people must experience God in the same way in order to be saved. In my misguided zeal, I pushed more people away from God than I ever did toward Him.

Oh, I knew I was right. Knew it! I would approach the KJV looking not for wisdom (although I thought I was) but rather for words that would justify and propagate my own myopic expression of Christ. I would say that I was listening to the Holy Spirit (and I even believed I was) but I really was only trying to justify my own prejudice. Hopefully, in the next 25 years, I can make amends.

Sometime later (2000ish?) I received a Holy Spirit directed 'boot to the butt' and began to learn compassion, graciousness, and understanding toward others of different expressions of faith. Thanks be to God that he did not give up on me but continued to try to teach me no matter how stubbornly I covered my ears in dogma!

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Post by sysiphus » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:42 pm

Amen.

I would approach the KJV looking not for wisdom (although I thought I was) but rather for words that would justify and propagate my own myopic expression of Christ. I would say that I was listening to the Holy Spirit (and I even believed I was) but I really was only trying to justify my own prejudice.
Now you got me feelin all convicted.
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Post by caulfield » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:42 pm

UB, I'm glad that you posted this. We all made mistakes in the past, I remember being somewhat misguided and zealous, but I can say with absolute certainty that many of our discussions (often over a bowl and a pint) have certainly shaped my own walk with God. You have given me a lot of good advice and really caused me to think deeply about a lot of things.

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Post by Del » Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:58 pm

We all see the Bible (and any other Divine Authority that we recognize) through the lenses our own dogmas and traditions.

One of the joys of CPS is that we are Butt-Kicked Bunch! Meeting Christ in all the brethren here, participating in so many faith traditions, has shown us that God is much bigger than our human thoughts and habits.
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Post by UncleBob » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:40 pm

Del wrote: Butt-Kicked Bunch!
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"One man's theology is another man's belly laugh." - Robert A. Heinlein

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Post by Onyx » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:50 pm

Thanks for sharing the testimony. I'd love to hear more of the story around the 2000 mark. How did you arrive at your new perspective? Was it a rapid change, or a gradual transformation? What got your attention? Was it hard, and did you make any life changes in response? Or was it mostly on the inside changing the way you acted and thought day to day? (Sorry for the interrogation...)

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Post by Dug » Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:52 pm

+1, UB. I think your post probably describes a number of us here (give or take a decade or two of self-righteousness and grace).

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Re: 24 August 1984

Post by FredS » Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:17 pm

UncleBob wrote:. . .my journey has been circuitous and punctuated with both the failure of fundamentalist intractable zeal and the hard-knock lesson of forgiveness. . .
+1
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Re: 24 August 1984

Post by UncleBob » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:28 am

Praise God! It's been 33 years, now.
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Re: 24 August 1984

Post by hugodrax » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:50 am

UncleBob wrote:
Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:28 am
Praise God! It's been 33 years, now.
Never read this before. Thanks for bringing it back up. Truly worthy of celebration!
Etiam mihi opinio anserem perirent.

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Re: 24 August 1984

Post by Pepik » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:59 am

Well if that ain't feel-good, I don't know what is!
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Re: 24 August 1984

Post by Bloodhound » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:46 am

I hadn't seen this before. A day to celebrate
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Re: 24 August 1984

Post by JimVH » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:47 pm

I wish I could articulate how much I like this thread.

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Re: 24 August 1984

Post by Winton » Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:17 pm

Way to go UB!

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Re: 24 August 1984

Post by UncleBob » Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:54 am

Praise God! 34 years today. Hard to believe it was so long ago.
"One man's theology is another man's belly laugh." - Robert A. Heinlein

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Re: 24 August 1984

Post by sysiphus » Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:59 am

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Re: 24 August 1984

Post by Roadmaster » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:18 am

sysiphus wrote:
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Re: 24 August 1984

Post by JimVH » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:43 am

Best zombie thread ever.

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Re: 24 August 1984

Post by durangopipe » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:31 am

I came to know Christ in 1964.
A long time ago, Uncle Bob, speaking for Durangopipe wrote:Oh, I knew I was right. Knew it! I would approach the KJV looking not for wisdom (although I thought I was) but rather for words that would justify and propagate my own myopic expression of Christ. I would say that I was listening to the Holy Spirit (and I even believed I was) but I really was only trying to justify my own prejudice.
In a New Testament class during my first term in college during the fall of 1966, a biblical scholar, and a wise and genuinely loving professor began the course with each of us researching and preparing, then reading to the class, a short paper on our own Christian faith denomination or tradition. After each student read, he calmly and supportively said, "All of like precious faith. The Body of Christ."

Since then, and in whatever time is yet to be granted me, I will continue to try to make amends.
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