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Post by JudgeRusty » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:14 am

I just saw a çommercial on the Outdoor channel for Franchi shotguns.
I never heard Franchi pronounced that way anywhere before.
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Post by durangopipe » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:56 am

JudgeRusty wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:14 am
I just saw a çommercial on the Outdoor channel for Franchi shotguns.
I never heard Franchi pronounced that way anywhere before.
Frahn’ key?
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Post by JudgeRusty » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:04 am

durangopipe wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:56 am
JudgeRusty wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:14 am
I just saw a çommercial on the Outdoor channel for Franchi shotguns.
I never heard Franchi pronounced that way anywhere before.
Frahn’ key?
Oui
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Post by Hovannes » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:15 am

JudgeRusty wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:04 am
durangopipe wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:56 am
JudgeRusty wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:14 am
I just saw a çommercial on the Outdoor channel for Franchi shotguns.
I never heard Franchi pronounced that way anywhere before.
Frahn’ key?
Oui
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Post by JimVH » Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:20 am

JudgeRusty wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:04 am
durangopipe wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:56 am
JudgeRusty wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:14 am
I just saw a çommercial on the Outdoor channel for Franchi shotguns.
I never heard Franchi pronounced that way anywhere before.
Frahn’ key?
Oui
My grandfather loved his "Franky".

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Post by Thunktank » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:19 am

JimVH wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:20 am
JudgeRusty wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:04 am
durangopipe wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:56 am
JudgeRusty wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:14 am
I just saw a çommercial on the Outdoor channel for Franchi shotguns.
I never heard Franchi pronounced that way anywhere before.
Frahn’ key?
Oui
My grandfather loved his "Franky".
A few months ago I handled a 28 gauge O/U Franchi. It was so sweet. If I were as wealthy as Fred thinks I am, I would have bought it.
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Post by Hovannes » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:32 pm

Top General packs a .45 1911, bless his soul!
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Post by hugodrax » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:40 pm

Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:32 pm
Top General packs a .45 1911, bless his soul!
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... 911-pistol
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Post by Hovannes » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:42 pm

hugodrax wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:40 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:32 pm
Top General packs a .45 1911, bless his soul!
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... 911-pistol
Of all the boomers that ever boomed, you are the boomeriest.
Thank you!
I think. :lol:
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Re: GUNS! That's what's happenin'!

Post by durangopipe » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:52 pm

Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:42 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:40 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:32 pm
Top General packs a .45 1911, bless his soul!
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... 911-pistol
Of all the boomers that ever boomed, you are the boomeriest.
Thank you!
I think. :lol:
Every generation has its “gun,” often the one they qualified with and carried in the service.
Many of my dad’s generation hunted with a sporterized 1903A3 30-06 after the war.

Image

My dad simply called his “the Springfield.”
A little later, in the mid-50s, he switched to Model 70s.

Firearms keep improving, but the tug of nostalgia is strong.
. . . be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you. Ephesians 4:32 (NKJV)

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Re: GUNS! That's what's happenin'!

Post by joegoat » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:26 am

durangopipe wrote:
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:42 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:40 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:32 pm
Top General packs a .45 1911, bless his soul!
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... 911-pistol
Of all the boomers that ever boomed, you are the boomeriest.
Thank you!
I think. Image
Every generation has its “gun,” often the one they qualified with and carried in the service.
Many of my dad’s generation hunted with a sporterized 1903A3 30-06 after the war.

Image

My dad simply called his “the Springfield.”
A little later, in the mid-50s, he switched to Model 70s.

Firearms keep improving, but the tug of nostalgia is strong.
Beautiful rifles! Phenomenal actions on them!
I'm happy to still have lots of them available in standard military configurations, but the sporterized models have their own histories. "Swords turned to plowshares" always comes to mind when I hold a well converted sporter. The ruggedness of war has been polished into the elegance of peace.
I know the response that everyone is supposed to give in the gun shop is "Why would anyone destroy such a collectable rifle!?" I don't have that feeling though, unless it was done by a kitchen table "gun smith" and truly buggered.

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Re: GUNS! That's what's happenin'!

Post by hugodrax » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:42 am

durangopipe wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:52 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:42 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:40 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:32 pm
Top General packs a .45 1911, bless his soul!
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... 911-pistol
Of all the boomers that ever boomed, you are the boomeriest.
Thank you!
I think. :lol:
Every generation has its “gun,” often the one they qualified with and carried in the service.
Many of my dad’s generation hunted with a sporterized 1903A3 30-06 after the war.

Image

My dad simply called his “the Springfield.”
A little later, in the mid-50s, he switched to Model 70s.

Firearms keep improving, but the tug of nostalgia is strong.
That's quite true, durangopipe, but we both know that the fetishization of the 1911 .45 is taken to a completely different level.

Your father didn't blame the loss of any wars on the lack of use of the 30-06, I'll wager? Did he claim that deer shot with other calibers positively enjoy the experience, living without fail into extreme old age? Or that a general with one sitting in the corner for suicidal purposes was guaranteed operational success?

When I carry, I carry a .45. But the amount of absolute hyperbolic bullshittery that surrounds this cartridge is amazing and not just nostalgia, but good old American horse feathers. Why, Kaiser Bill scheissed in his shorts when he realized every doughboy had a .45. Hermann the Germann grounded every Stuka in the Luftwaffe after we started shootin' em down with our pistols, dontcha know.

And that's why I was picking on Boomer Derpington, the great white grunter.
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Re: GUNS! That's what's happenin'!

Post by Hovannes » Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:17 am

hugodrax wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:42 am
durangopipe wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:52 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:42 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:40 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:32 pm
Top General packs a .45 1911, bless his soul!
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... 911-pistol
Of all the boomers that ever boomed, you are the boomeriest.
Thank you!
I think. :lol:
Every generation has its “gun,” often the one they qualified with and carried in the service.
Many of my dad’s generation hunted with a sporterized 1903A3 30-06 after the war.

Image

My dad simply called his “the Springfield.”
A little later, in the mid-50s, he switched to Model 70s.

Firearms keep improving, but the tug of nostalgia is strong.
That's quite true, durangopipe, but we both know that the fetishization of the 1911 .45 is taken to a completely different level.

Your father didn't blame the loss of any wars on the lack of use of the 30-06, I'll wager? Did he claim that deer shot with other calibers positively enjoy the experience, living without fail into extreme old age? Or that a general with one sitting in the corner for suicidal purposes was guaranteed operational success?

When I carry, I carry a .45. But the amount of absolute hyperbolic bullshittery that surrounds this cartridge is amazing and not just nostalgia, but good old American horse feathers. Why, Kaiser Bill scheissed in his shorts when he realized every doughboy had a .45. Hermann the Germann grounded every Stuka in the Luftwaffe after we started shootin' em down with our pistols, dontcha know.

And that's why I was picking on Boomer Derpington, the great white grunter.
None of that hyperbolic bullshittery was mentioned in the article. In fact it did speak rather favorably of the 1911's replacements. :confused:
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Post by hugodrax » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:26 am

Hovannes wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:17 am
hugodrax wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:42 am
durangopipe wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:52 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:42 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:40 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:32 pm
Top General packs a .45 1911, bless his soul!
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... 911-pistol
Of all the boomers that ever boomed, you are the boomeriest.
Thank you!
I think. :lol:
Every generation has its “gun,” often the one they qualified with and carried in the service.
Many of my dad’s generation hunted with a sporterized 1903A3 30-06 after the war.

Image

My dad simply called his “the Springfield.”
A little later, in the mid-50s, he switched to Model 70s.

Firearms keep improving, but the tug of nostalgia is strong.
That's quite true, durangopipe, but we both know that the fetishization of the 1911 .45 is taken to a completely different level.

Your father didn't blame the loss of any wars on the lack of use of the 30-06, I'll wager? Did he claim that deer shot with other calibers positively enjoy the experience, living without fail into extreme old age? Or that a general with one sitting in the corner for suicidal purposes was guaranteed operational success?

When I carry, I carry a .45. But the amount of absolute hyperbolic bullshittery that surrounds this cartridge is amazing and not just nostalgia, but good old American horse feathers. Why, Kaiser Bill scheissed in his shorts when he realized every doughboy had a .45. Hermann the Germann grounded every Stuka in the Luftwaffe after we started shootin' em down with our pistols, dontcha know.

And that's why I was picking on Boomer Derpington, the great white grunter.
None of that hyperbolic bullshittery was mentioned in the article. In fact it did speak rather favorably of the 1911's replacements. :confused:
You posted an article? And expected me to read it?

Pshaw. I dont believe you. :D
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Re: GUNS! That's what's happenin'!

Post by Thunktank » Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:34 am

Hovannes wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:17 am
hugodrax wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:42 am
durangopipe wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:52 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:42 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:40 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:32 pm
Top General packs a .45 1911, bless his soul!
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... 911-pistol
Of all the boomers that ever boomed, you are the boomeriest.
Thank you!
I think. :lol:
Every generation has its “gun,” often the one they qualified with and carried in the service.
Many of my dad’s generation hunted with a sporterized 1903A3 30-06 after the war.

Image

My dad simply called his “the Springfield.”
A little later, in the mid-50s, he switched to Model 70s.

Firearms keep improving, but the tug of nostalgia is strong.
That's quite true, durangopipe, but we both know that the fetishization of the 1911 .45 is taken to a completely different level.

Your father didn't blame the loss of any wars on the lack of use of the 30-06, I'll wager? Did he claim that deer shot with other calibers positively enjoy the experience, living without fail into extreme old age? Or that a general with one sitting in the corner for suicidal purposes was guaranteed operational success?

When I carry, I carry a .45. But the amount of absolute hyperbolic bullshittery that surrounds this cartridge is amazing and not just nostalgia, but good old American horse feathers. Why, Kaiser Bill scheissed in his shorts when he realized every doughboy had a .45. Hermann the Germann grounded every Stuka in the Luftwaffe after we started shootin' em down with our pistols, dontcha know.

And that's why I was picking on Boomer Derpington, the great white grunter.
None of that hyperbolic bullshittery was mentioned in the article. In fact it did speak rather favorably of the 1911's replacements. :confused:
The 1911 is outdated, revolvers even more so. But they are both, still very much effective. Frankly, I can shoot my big S&W N Frame more accurately than any 9mm semi auto I ever shot. For bumming in the woods, that’s what I want. In a war zone I would want to train with a 9mm semi auto with nice long magazines attached to them because it’s a war zone. But I was never a garrison grade officers either, I was a rifleman. I was issued an assault rifle, pistols were discouraged for the likes of me, they weren’t effective enough.

I did quality with the Beretta 92. I was one of the few Lance Corporals at the time who did. I worked at headquarters directly for the CO, XO and Sergeant Major so when one of them needed to qualify they wanted me to come with them. After all, I could clean their weapon for them when finished! They never let me go back to the platoon come to think of it. :lol:
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Post by Hovannes » Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:42 pm

Thunktank wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:34 am
Hovannes wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:17 am
hugodrax wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:42 am
durangopipe wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:52 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:42 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:40 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:32 pm
Top General packs a .45 1911, bless his soul!
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... 911-pistol
Of all the boomers that ever boomed, you are the boomeriest.
Thank you!
I think. :lol:
Every generation has its “gun,” often the one they qualified with and carried in the service.
Many of my dad’s generation hunted with a sporterized 1903A3 30-06 after the war.

Image

My dad simply called his “the Springfield.”
A little later, in the mid-50s, he switched to Model 70s.

Firearms keep improving, but the tug of nostalgia is strong.
That's quite true, durangopipe, but we both know that the fetishization of the 1911 .45 is taken to a completely different level.

Your father didn't blame the loss of any wars on the lack of use of the 30-06, I'll wager? Did he claim that deer shot with other calibers positively enjoy the experience, living without fail into extreme old age? Or that a general with one sitting in the corner for suicidal purposes was guaranteed operational success?

When I carry, I carry a .45. But the amount of absolute hyperbolic bullshittery that surrounds this cartridge is amazing and not just nostalgia, but good old American horse feathers. Why, Kaiser Bill scheissed in his shorts when he realized every doughboy had a .45. Hermann the Germann grounded every Stuka in the Luftwaffe after we started shootin' em down with our pistols, dontcha know.

And that's why I was picking on Boomer Derpington, the great white grunter.
None of that hyperbolic bullshittery was mentioned in the article. In fact it did speak rather favorably of the 1911's replacements. :confused:
The 1911 is outdated, revolvers even more so. But they are both, still very much effective. Frankly, I can shoot my big S&W N Frame more accurately than any 9mm semi auto I ever shot. For bumming in the woods, that’s what I want. In a war zone I would want to train with a 9mm semi auto with nice long magazines attached to them because it’s a war zone. But I was never a garrison grade officers either, I was a rifleman. I was issued an assault rifle, pistols were discouraged for the likes of me, they weren’t effective enough.

I did quality with the Beretta 92. I was one of the few Lance Corporals at the time who did. I worked at headquarters directly for the CO, XO and Sergeant Major so when one of them needed to qualify they wanted me to come with them. After all, I could clean their weapon for them when finished! They never let me go back to the platoon come to think of it. :lol:
WHAT? The Marines have pistols that are functional?

I was the S2 in charge of an Arms room and fully 2/3rds of the weapons were yellow tagged :egor:
Some of the few that could function were prehistoric 1911s which looked kind of, well, hammered.
Maybe they got worn out from shooting down the Luftwaffe :lol:
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Post by Thunktank » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:46 pm

Hovannes wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:42 pm
Thunktank wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:34 am
Hovannes wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:17 am
hugodrax wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:42 am
durangopipe wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:52 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:42 pm
hugodrax wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:40 pm
Hovannes wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:32 pm
Top General packs a .45 1911, bless his soul!
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... 911-pistol
Of all the boomers that ever boomed, you are the boomeriest.
Thank you!
I think. :lol:
Every generation has its “gun,” often the one they qualified with and carried in the service.
Many of my dad’s generation hunted with a sporterized 1903A3 30-06 after the war.

Image

My dad simply called his “the Springfield.”
A little later, in the mid-50s, he switched to Model 70s.

Firearms keep improving, but the tug of nostalgia is strong.
That's quite true, durangopipe, but we both know that the fetishization of the 1911 .45 is taken to a completely different level.

Your father didn't blame the loss of any wars on the lack of use of the 30-06, I'll wager? Did he claim that deer shot with other calibers positively enjoy the experience, living without fail into extreme old age? Or that a general with one sitting in the corner for suicidal purposes was guaranteed operational success?

When I carry, I carry a .45. But the amount of absolute hyperbolic bullshittery that surrounds this cartridge is amazing and not just nostalgia, but good old American horse feathers. Why, Kaiser Bill scheissed in his shorts when he realized every doughboy had a .45. Hermann the Germann grounded every Stuka in the Luftwaffe after we started shootin' em down with our pistols, dontcha know.

And that's why I was picking on Boomer Derpington, the great white grunter.
None of that hyperbolic bullshittery was mentioned in the article. In fact it did speak rather favorably of the 1911's replacements. :confused:
The 1911 is outdated, revolvers even more so. But they are both, still very much effective. Frankly, I can shoot my big S&W N Frame more accurately than any 9mm semi auto I ever shot. For bumming in the woods, that’s what I want. In a war zone I would want to train with a 9mm semi auto with nice long magazines attached to them because it’s a war zone. But I was never a garrison grade officers either, I was a rifleman. I was issued an assault rifle, pistols were discouraged for the likes of me, they weren’t effective enough.

I did quality with the Beretta 92. I was one of the few Lance Corporals at the time who did. I worked at headquarters directly for the CO, XO and Sergeant Major so when one of them needed to qualify they wanted me to come with them. After all, I could clean their weapon for them when finished! They never let me go back to the platoon come to think of it. :lol:
WHAT? The Marines have pistols that are functional?

I was the S2 in charge of an Arms room and fully 2/3rds of the weapons were yellow tagged :egor:
Some of the few that could function were prehistoric 1911s which looked kind of, well, hammered.
Maybe they got worn out from shooting down the Luftwaffe :lol:
Pfft, Marines can make just about anything functional. Give us a lead pipe, we’ll make it shoot something. :lol:
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Post by Hovannes » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:40 pm

When I took charge of the Arms room I inquired about how I ended up with so many yellow tagged M-16s and why they were still in the Arms room.
Most all of our functional M-16s were given the South Vietnamese Army six years previous. The yellow tags we had were so worn out they had exceeded their serviceable life and apparently the depot had more pressing things to do than destroy junked M-16 so my arms room could be squared away.
IIRC this was when Beretta's were first accepted. Since I was in a reserve unit we still had the 1911 and since the contract for .45 ammo ended we were issued ammo made by Israeli Military Industries---very hot stuff indeed! It probably didn't contribute to the longevity of our old pistols which was probably the reason only the CO qualified.
When our outfit fired for qualification with M-16s we had to borrow another units M-16s, LOL!
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Re: GUNS! That's what's happenin'!

Post by joegoat » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:59 pm

I get it. An 18 to 20 something year old isn't going to be easy on anything they are issued, but you would think the military would budget enough to maintain their small arms.
I have no idea what the contract holders charge the government for a brand new M16, but I do know that military contracts are coveted because they ate extremely lucrative. If only government agencies would spend a little more time negotiating contracts so they can afford to have some operable guns in the armories.
The one reason I hoped to see Glock win the handgun contract was because they have so few parts that can wear out. The Sig is full of teeny tiny pieces and springs that will need to be replaced eventually. The Glock has nothing more than what it takes to load, fire, and eject.

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Re: GUNS! That's what's happenin'!

Post by Thunktank » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:18 pm

Hovannes wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:40 pm
When I took charge of the Arms room I inquired about how I ended up with so many yellow tagged M-16s and why they were still in the Arms room.
Most all of our functional M-16s were given the South Vietnamese Army six years previous. The yellow tags we had were so worn out they had exceeded their serviceable life and apparently the depot had more pressing things to do than destroy junked M-16 so my arms room could be squared away.
IIRC this was when Beretta's were first accepted. Since I was in a reserve unit we still had the 1911 and since the contract for .45 ammo ended we were issued ammo made by Israeli Military Industries---very hot stuff indeed! It probably didn't contribute to the longevity of our old pistols which was probably the reason only the CO qualified.
When our outfit fired for qualification with M-16s we had to borrow another units M-16s, LOL!
What branch’s armory were you in?

Guns do wear out. Every Marine is issued a rifle and it must be operational, clean and capable of reliability and accuracy. We shot the heck out of our rifle one or two weeks a year normally, garrison side. Maybe the Army National Guard has trouble with upkeep, I don’t know.
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