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Re: GUNS! That's what's happenin'!

Post by Hovannes » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:55 pm

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When I took charge of the Arms room I inquired about how I ended up with so many yellow tagged M-16s and why they were still in the Arms room.
Most all of our functional M-16s were given the South Vietnamese Army six years previous. The yellow tags we had were so worn out they had exceeded their serviceable life and apparently the depot had more pressing things to do than destroy junked M-16 so my arms room could be squared away.
IIRC this was when Beretta's were first accepted. Since I was in a reserve unit we still had the 1911 and since the contract for .45 ammo ended we were issued ammo made by Israeli Military Industries---very hot stuff indeed! It probably didn't contribute to the longevity of our old pistols which was probably the reason only the CO qualified.
When our outfit fired for qualification with M-16s we had to borrow another units M-16s, LOL!
What branch’s armory were you in?

Guns do wear out. Every Marine is issued a rifle and it must be operational, clean and capable of reliability and accuracy. We shot the heck out of our rifle one or two weeks a year normally, garrison side. Maybe the Army National Guard has trouble with upkeep, I don’t know.
Army Reserve, Our Center had a Signal Company and a Transportation Company. Across town there was a Station Hospital, and all their M-16s were functional :lol:
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Re: GUNS! That's what's happenin'!

Post by Sir Moose » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:07 pm

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I get it. An 18 to 20 something year old isn't going to be easy on anything they are issued, but you would think the military would budget enough to maintain their small arms.
I have no idea what the contract holders charge the government for a brand new M16, but I do know that military contracts are coveted because they ate extremely lucrative. If only government agencies would spend a little more time negotiating contracts so they can afford to have some operable guns in the armories.
The one reason I hoped to see Glock win the handgun contract was because they have so few parts that can wear out. The Sig is full of teeny tiny pieces and springs that will need to be replaced eventually. The Glock has nothing more than what it takes to load, fire, and eject.

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One of the factors that went into US Customs and Border Protection recently awarding Glock the contract for pistols...

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Shhh...Glock just released a new Glock without really saying anything (G47)
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Re: GUNS! That's what's happenin'!

Post by joegoat » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:38 pm

Sir Moose wrote:
joegoat wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:59 pm
I get it. An 18 to 20 something year old isn't going to be easy on anything they are issued, but you would think the military would budget enough to maintain their small arms.
I have no idea what the contract holders charge the government for a brand new M16, but I do know that military contracts are coveted because they ate extremely lucrative. If only government agencies would spend a little more time negotiating contracts so they can afford to have some operable guns in the armories.
The one reason I hoped to see Glock win the handgun contract was because they have so few parts that can wear out. The Sig is full of teeny tiny pieces and springs that will need to be replaced eventually. The Glock has nothing more than what it takes to load, fire, and eject.

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One of the factors that went into US Customs and Border Protection recently awarding Glock the contract for pistols...

CBP Awards Contract for Duty Handguns

Shhh...Glock just released a new Glock without really saying anything (G47)
They also have the rotating barrel model in the works for one of the European police forces.

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Re: GUNS! That's what's happenin'!

Post by gaining_age » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:52 am

Among the items reviewed, there's a 1971 Ruger Single-six .22 cal with extra magnum barrel. Quite the family history there, so I found.

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To me, this has always been the epitome of a revolver.

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Re: GUNS! That's what's happenin'!

Post by Jocose » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:56 am

gaining_age wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:52 am
Among the items reviewed, there's a 1971 Ruger Single-six .22 cal with extra magnum barrel. Quite the family history there, so I found.

Representative pic:

Image

To me, this has always been the epitome of a revolver.

Has a couple holster belts too. Ah... memories.
+1

This is perhaps the best .22 a man can own.
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Post by joegoat » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:14 pm

Jocose wrote:
gaining_age wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:52 am
Among the items reviewed, there's a 1971 Ruger Single-six .22 cal with extra magnum barrel. Quite the family history there, so I found.

Representative pic:

Image

To me, this has always been the epitome of a revolver.

Has a couple holster belts too. Ah... memories.
+1

This is perhaps the best .22 a man can own.
Agreed!

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Re: GUNS! That's what's happenin'!

Post by Thunktank » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:02 am

joegoat wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:14 pm
Jocose wrote:
gaining_age wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:52 am
Among the items reviewed, there's a 1971 Ruger Single-six .22 cal with extra magnum barrel. Quite the family history there, so I found.

Representative pic:

Image

To me, this has always been the epitome of a revolver.

Has a couple holster belts too. Ah... memories.
+1

This is perhaps the best .22 a man can own.
Agreed!

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The best for what exactly?

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Post by joegoat » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:54 am

Nothing makes shooting a Springfield 1861 (repro) more fun than using the original paper cartridges.
These are made according to the 1862 simplified style. I've made the 1855 style and I don't care for them. While not as labor intensive as the British Enfield cartridge, they're more work for equal performance to the 1862.

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Post by Hovannes » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:35 pm

The Ballad of Ronald Reagan, Melba King and the Colt 1911 circa 1933 in Des Moines, IA:
https://www.ammoland.com/2011/02/ronald ... z5s5R4ftaO
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Re: GUNS! That's what's happenin'!

Post by rgcurrey » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:20 am

joegoat wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:54 am
Nothing makes shooting a Springfield 1861 (repro) more fun than using the original paper cartridges.
These are made according to the 1862 simplified style. I've made the 1855 style and I don't care for them. While not as labor intensive as the British Enfield cartridge, they're more work for equal performance to the 1862.

Hand cast pure lead .575 Minnie ball
Pan lubed in a beeswax and tallow mix
The inner tube is rolled and tied
The bullet goes on
The outer tube is rolled in tied
Charged with 60 grains and tail folded
Packaged in 10 round arsenal packs. ImageImageImageImageImageImageImage

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Post by Hovannes » Sat Jun 29, 2019 6:04 pm

An interesting video on hunting pheasant in China
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Post by hugodrax » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:58 am

Hovannes wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:35 pm
The Ballad of Ronald Reagan, Melba King and the Colt 1911 circa 1933 in Des Moines, IA:
https://www.ammoland.com/2011/02/ronald ... z5s5R4ftaO
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Post by Hovannes » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:11 am

My bride wants to learn to shoot my pistols 8O
Should I be worried?
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Post by rgcurrey » Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:12 am

Hovannes wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:11 am
My bride wants to learn to shoot my pistols 8O
Should I be worried?
Depends, any new life insurance policies?
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Post by JimVH » Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:27 pm

I tried for years decades to get my wife to learn to shoot. A few years ago, out of nowhere, she decided it was time, but by then her hands couldn't handle very much recoil. I bought her a pink SIG Mosquito, put an inexpensive laser sight on it, and turned her loose. She has a ball and can shoot it all day long without pain.

I also learned that buying a pink handgun guarantees that the grandsons won't try and borrow it.

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Post by hugodrax » Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:39 pm

JimVH wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:27 pm
I tried for years decades to get my wife to learn to shoot. A few years ago, out of nowhere, she decided it was time, but by then her hands couldn't handle very much recoil. I bought her a pink SIG Mosquito, put an inexpensive laser sight on it, and turned her loose. She has a ball and can shoot it all day long without pain.

I also learned that buying a pink handgun guarantees that the grandsons won't try and borrow it.
Confession: I owned a pink Taurus 25 for the giggles.
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Post by Thunktank » Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:04 pm

hugodrax wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:39 pm
JimVH wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:27 pm
I tried for years decades to get my wife to learn to shoot. A few years ago, out of nowhere, she decided it was time, but by then her hands couldn't handle very much recoil. I bought her a pink SIG Mosquito, put an inexpensive laser sight on it, and turned her loose. She has a ball and can shoot it all day long without pain.

I also learned that buying a pink handgun guarantees that the grandsons won't try and borrow it.
Confession: I owned a pink Taurus 25 for the giggles.
My wife enjoys archery with me. She has her own longbow. But she doesn’t like guns. She tolerates them and likes the fact that the boys and I hunt together with them. She learned to shoot my Winchester M9422 Magnum. In her words, “That one isn’t bad.”

If I were to give her a polymer handgun, she would prefer a turquoise color.
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Post by Hovannes » Sat Jul 06, 2019 9:18 pm

My pal from the old SAR unit called this evening,
We're going shooting monday morning.
I hope my cataracts don't make me look bad----
Since they kicked us off the Peace Officer's Range, we've been shooting in a vineyard and the only target is a steel disc 50' out :oops:
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Post by joegoat » Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:53 am

Thunktank wrote:
hugodrax wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:39 pm
JimVH wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:27 pm
I tried for years decades to get my wife to learn to shoot. A few years ago, out of nowhere, she decided it was time, but by then her hands couldn't handle very much recoil. I bought her a pink SIG Mosquito, put an inexpensive laser sight on it, and turned her loose. She has a ball and can shoot it all day long without pain.

I also learned that buying a pink handgun guarantees that the grandsons won't try and borrow it.
Confession: I owned a pink Taurus 25 for the giggles.
My wife enjoys archery with me. She has her own longbow. But she doesn’t like guns. She tolerates them and likes the fact that the boys and I hunt together with them. She learned to shoot my Winchester M9422 Magnum. In her words, “That one isn’t bad.”

If I were to give her a polymer handgun, she would prefer a turquoise color.
My wife's first time shooting was when we were dating. I gave her the run down on how the gun worked, how to hold it and then stepped back. The first shot from that Stoeger Cougar went right in the 1 inch dot 15 yards away. I'm pretty sure that was a fluke, but she's plenty good enough to put a shot in center mass.

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Post by Hovannes » Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:25 pm

A nice morning on my old SAR posse partner's range. We fired probably two boxes of shells between us on paper targets and steel gongs.
All .38 specials. My cataracts are getting to be more of a problem---last time I hit the gong 5/5 & 4/5 times. This time I was lucky to get 3/5 but mostly 2/5. This DA with a j frame snubbie at 50' Not good! :oops: At least on the paper target I was hitting the 8's and 9's consistently
with a few (precious few) 10's
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