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I must not judge, but

Post by Hovannes » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:42 am

-There is an obligation to give fraternal admonition---that's in the Bible somewhere---and that is what I fear I'm dealing with.
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Post by Cleon » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:20 am

The word "judge" gets a bad wrap. Go ahead and judge. We're supposed to. There's no way to live if you can't make judgements. Just don't be a hypocrite and make sure you're judging according to the scriptures, within your abilities, and with the person's best interest in mind.
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Re: I must not judge, but

Post by Hovannes » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:14 am

What fun! :bite:

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Re: I must not judge, but

Post by JudgeRusty » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:16 am

All the while striving to do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but considering others better than yourself.
Phil. 2
(This is so tough for me).
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Re: I must not judge, but

Post by Cleon » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:37 am

Hovannes wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:14 am
What fun! :bite:

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IMO, a good way to evangelize to a militant atheist is by living a holy life, especially if they are a superior rhetorician. Maybe it would be better not to tell her so much, but continue to show her. I'm sure she already knows you think her soul is in jeopardy.
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Re: I must not judge, but

Post by plhildy » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:47 am

I have heard that only God can judge. We however can, and should, observe, assess, "collect" data and come to logical conclusions. And if it comes to it Prayerfully. (!)

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Post by DepartedLight » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:54 am

1 Corinthians 6:2-3 (RSVCE)

Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, matters pertaining to this life!
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Post by FredS » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:36 pm

We judge every day. We judge to keep our family and ourselves safe from those who (we judge) will do harm. Nothing wrong with judgement. The trick is to try not to wrongly condemn anyone based on your judgement. And certainly don't try to judge the condition of their soul unless they ask you for such up close and personal scrutiny. Be prepared to spend many hours together in examine if this is the case.

*In this specific instance, I'd tell your friend/acquaintance how you feel and why you feel that way. Easy peasy. End of story. Don't expect them to live the life you'd chose, but share your story if they're open to it.

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Post by UncleBob » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:50 pm

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Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:47 am
I have heard that only God can judge. We however can, and should, observe, assess, "collect" data and come to logical conclusions. And if it comes to it Prayerfully. (!)
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Re: I must not judge, but

Post by Hovannes » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:53 pm

Cleon wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:37 am
Hovannes wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:14 am
What fun! :bite:

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IMO, a good way to evangelize to a militant atheist is by living a holy life, especially if they are a superior rhetorician. Maybe it would be better not to tell her so much, but continue to show her. I'm sure she already knows you think her soul is in jeopardy.
I've been hard at it and she loves my family for that same reason, and it is what gives me hope.

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Post by CodeMonkey » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:09 pm

I'm not very smart, but I do know that the Holy Spirit will help you with this. I will be praying for you.
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Re: I must not judge, but

Post by Hovannes » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:28 pm

CodeMonkey wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:09 pm
I'm not very smart, but I do know that the Holy Spirit will help you with this. I will be praying for you.
Thank you.

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Post by Joshoowah » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:35 am

Perhaps the irony behind atheist driven children books is the fact they are in themselves a form of indoctrination, which is the very thing they tend to speak out against, at least in relation to religion.
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Re: I must not judge, but

Post by Hovannes » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:46 am

Joshoowah wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:35 am
Perhaps the irony behind atheist driven children books is the fact they are in themselves a form of indoctrination, which is the very thing they tend to speak out against, at least in relation to religion.
Bingo!

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Post by Del » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:12 am

Joshoowah wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:35 am
Perhaps the irony behind atheist driven children books is the fact they are in themselves a form of indoctrination, which is the very thing they tend to speak out against, at least in relation to religion.
Just go to TARGET and look at the aisle of children's books. It is dominated by leftist indoctrination.

It might be better in the Bible Belt, but there are no Christian-themed titles to be seen in upscale stores here. (Walmart has some picture books of Bible heroes.)

Publishers are okay with this, because they are part of the big media bubble... owned by the same guys who own Hollywood and the news media. In their minds, only leftists have virtues. Christians are just bigots.
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Post by Goose55 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:32 am

Joshoowah wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:35 am
Perhaps the irony behind atheist driven children books is the fact they are in themselves a form of indoctrination, which is the very thing they tend to speak out against, at least in relation to religion.
This is absolutely correct. Abolish belief in God and it creates a vacuum that has to be filled by something.
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Re: I must not judge, but

Post by tim_witten » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:53 pm

JudgeRusty wrote:All the while striving to do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but considering others better than yourself.
Phil. 2
(This is so tough for me).
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