There are atheists who do teach this, or at least a nihilistic worldview which, if taken literally, would permit this. I've studied postmodernism and a myriad of philosophies that might be described as "atheistic Darwinism", and I believe I understand the core of the worldview in question - some authors include Nietzsche, Stirner, Sade, and others if you're interested. In theory, yes, if atheistic postmodernists were consistent in their nihilistic worldviews, they would, or at least could do those things. (In practice, they generally don't, because they're hypocrites - though perhaps it's better that they don't regardless.)UncleBob wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:15 pmAthiests do not teach this themselves. Also, religions have adopted such bans from governments themselves aka Hammurabi (sp?). Still, all that is moot as the rules of conduct for CPS is clear. Intended or not, atheists are a protected group, here, and ascribing such acts to that group is considered hate speech. Please refrain from doing this further.Nature of a Man wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:56 pmYou misunderstand, I made a point to point out that not all who identify as atheists actually commit acts such as rape or murder - I was refering to their philosophy or worldview - if an atheist believes that life is meaningless, or that he is no different than any other animal, then while in practice, he may not behave like this, in theory, there is no reason that he shouldn't if he thought it served his self interest.UncleBob wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:55 pmLets all take a moment to review the rules of conduct:Claims of illegal behavior, such as rape, across entire groups is not only wrong but foolish.Hate Messages - Hate Messages delivered via threads, posts, signatures, or PMs are forbidden at CPS. The Moderator Team defines a hate message as a comment using one of the following towards a “protected group” or an individual based on their identity in a “protected group” in an extreme manner:
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D) Claims of illegal behavior across the entire group
Protected groups under this rule:
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So this wasn't condemnation of atheists as a human group, just condemnation of the atheistic worldview.
My point is that, in practice, freedom "from" religion doesn't really doesn't exist - at least in an absolute sense, given that state common law is arguably grounded in Judeo-Christian principles, or at least in principles more or less universal to world religions.Roadmaster wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:18 amFreedom of and from religion.Nature of a Man wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:54 pm
I'm not an expert on Masonic principles, though that was to some extent what I had gleaned - that the purpose of government was to legislate moral principles more or less universal to all world religions, but not allow a single religion or church (e.x. the Roman Catholic church) to become the sole state religion.
That seems to be the way God wants it as well.
Rev 3:20 - Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Christ does not say you will let me in or I will knock down the door.
God doesn't force us and the government does not either.
If a person wanted to be truly "free from religion", then they would have to jettison all laws and values whatsoever, including laws against rape, murder, other heinous acts - since from an atheistic worldview, at least in theory, there would be no reason not to do those things if they felt it served their interest (again, for emphasis, this isn't a condemnation of all atheists as individuals, but a condemnation of the atheistic worldview)-
In practice, though, if a person lives without any religious principles whatsoever, and commits crimes such as those mentioned, they are sent to prisons, die, and on the whole have no place in society.
So anyone who exists in society at all, American or otherwise, isn't really "free from religion" in an absolute sense.
There also does seem to be some overlap between "Satanism", or the "Satanic worldview", as well as some of the fringe neopagan cults or new religious movements -and what might be described as postmodern nihilism, or atheistic Darwinism.